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Lol - Can imagine his face...
Pretending to ignore her to see if that helps

Nature will take it's course, whether your there or not. Just more exciting for you when you are.

Moe liquid but think it is wee as she is trying to push

if she is pushing just keep your eye on her pups can't be far away now.

Getting very close now :-)

Very close if not one already there

Are we there yet?
come on puppies .......:)
lol i bet shes had 1 now :)
By Elvee
Date 18.02.09 21:52 UTC
I have been following this thread for 2 days now,have never posted at all,and the suspense is killing me!I want to go to bed,but don't want to miss anything.
me too, but got to be up at 5.30 so going to have to go to bed on tender hooks!!!!!!!!!!! good luck and I am hoping for good news when log on in the morning. Di xx
Same here was just going to turn computer off but staying tuned now.

Oh I hope Ann is busy dealing with new babes and cant post yet.
By Elvee
Date 18.02.09 22:07 UTC
I had my first litter in November,it was the most wonderful experience,hope evrything goes as well for her as it did for us.

Its magic isnt it Elvee :-)
By Elvee
Date 18.02.09 22:11 UTC
Amazing!!I couldn't believe how my girl knew exactly what to do,or how mobile the pups were straight after the birth,seeking out the teats and latching on.Incredible.

A wonderful thing to see indeed,very moving, I love every minute :-)
hopfuly this will be me in 4weeks :) ....it truly is amazing :).....looks like another late night for me lol hope we hear good news soon !! x
By Elvee
Date 18.02.09 22:16 UTC
I loved the whole experience,from the conceiving,the pregnancy,birth,rearing the pups,seeing them go to their new homes,getting photos of them settled and happy.I feel lost now,but we've kept one ourselves and still have one to home,so still have work to do.
By Emz77
Date 18.02.09 22:17 UTC

I have been up the last 2 nights, was posting at 3 ish am this morning, so I am hoping that it isn't another late one lol....these aren't even my pups and I am tired ;-)
By Elvee
Date 18.02.09 22:18 UTC
I wish we knew what's happening!!!
> hopfuly this will be me in 4weeks :-) ....it truly is amazing :-).....looks like another late night for me lol hope we hear good news soon !! x
And no doubt we'll be up waiting for yours to lol

Just had a text from Ann, her girls contractions are getting weaker.
She has spoken to her vet and he is advising her now, helps a great deal
that he himself breeds dogs so really knows how quickly it can go pear shaped.
She will let us know in the morning how it has gone.
Thinking about you Ann.

Best of luck Ann x
By Elvee
Date 18.02.09 22:25 UTC
Must go to bed,lightweight I know.Look forward to reading all about it in the morning,night all.
Just read that bit about vet,hope all goes well.

Night Elvee :-)
thanks yvonne :) xx
also best of luck from me too ,keeping fingers crossd all goes well and mum as pups herself xx

Hoping all is ok for Ann and Mischa.
Yvonne.

Goodmorning Everyone
Just had a text from Ann, Mischa has had two bitch pups one at 5.5oz and the other 2.5oz and she didn't have to go to the vet. As you can imagine she is a little concerned about the little one feeding and trying now to get her on the teat. Ann will post later and let us know how it's going.
Joan

Big Congratulations Ann :-)
I'm so glad she had them naturally :-) one of my boys was born at 2.5 ounces and now he is a thriving and quite lanky lad of 4 months.
Thankyou for letting us know Joan.

we can all take a breath now and go Awwwwwwwwww Well done.
My boy Domino came into the world at 2oz.

Yes definitely a sigh of relief :-) I bet Ann is shattered this morning!

Hi All
A challenging first litter - Big pup was first and I had to pull her out to big screas from Mischa but knew it had to be done.
3 hours later tiny pup followed and has been quite cold but have her heated up now.
They are trying to feed but not sure what they are getting
Mum a bit enthusiastic with cleaning and keeps knocking little one off by licking her.
There may still be a pup inside so off to vet at 9am for scan and oxytocin which he says will also help with milk
Just really hoping all will be ok
Will keep you posted - Thanks for all the support.
this is wonderful news :):):) ....and as yvonne as said dont worry to much about her weight she will soon start to put it on she just might take alittle longer to get latched on !
and now the fun starts ;)
well done xx
hope all goes well at vets hun ...did you say she was having 4? from the scan ? x
By Papillon
Date 19.02.09 08:29 UTC
Edited 19.02.09 08:50 UTC
> A challenging first litter - Big pup was first and I had to pull her out to big screas from Mischa but knew it had to be done.
> 3 hours later tiny pup followed and has been quite cold but have her heated up now.
> They are trying to feed but not sure what they are getting
> Mum a bit enthusiastic with cleaning and keeps knocking little one off by licking her.
> There may still be a pup inside so off to vet at 9am for scan and oxytocin which he says will also help with milk
> Just really hoping all will be ok
>
> Will keep you posted - Thanks for all the support.
Hi Ann, always a long labour if first puppy is big, will look in later to see what the vet says, well done to you and Mischa :-)

Hi yes scan said 4 but vet said lots can change - pups can be reabsorbed etc.
I think there is still one though either that or a swelling behind the vulva
Update you all later
Pups tucked in and cosy at the minute
yes very true about pups being reabsorbed ....but from what your saying it does sound like 1 still there ...bless her xx
By Teri
Date 19.02.09 09:47 UTC

Hi Ann
best wishes for everything going well if there is another puppy there and I hope with lots of TLC the little one grows from strength to strength.
Teri :)
By Elvee
Date 19.02.09 10:10 UTC
Well done!!Hope everything is ok now,I don't know you,but I was thinking about you all last night.We had one little one in 8,but it soon caught up with the others.Enjoy.x

congratulations to you i know all about a long wait for babies as some will tell you.im pleased all went well for you in the end.now the fun starts.enjoy.xxx

Hi all
Well what a first experience- Was 3 hours at vet.
He said he could feel a pup- confirmed it by scan and said was still alive
He gave oxytocin but to no avail then went for surgery to get pup out
Opened her up and no pup there so have brought her home stitched up and am £250 worse off for my experience
Am exhausted now.
Big pup feeding well - little one trying but keeps falling off- not crying though
hi, i have been silently following your thread and well done on the two little babies. but how can the vet feel and then confirm by scan a puppy and then put the poor little mum through a c section ( life threatening on its own) only to find no puppy! i would have been absolutely mad to be honest and probably even contested the vet bill!
sorry, just read your thread again and the scan even confirmed the puppy was alive! unbelievable :-(

I've just read all the way through this thread and am absolutely horrified at the fact your vet opened her up for no reason, after telling you he had seen a live pup :(

If i were you id like to know why he claimed she still had a pup and it was ALIVE too when there was nothing.he has put you and her through un needy stress.and youe had to pay him too! hmm id be looking around for a new vet.
this is terrible i cannot belive he confirmed pup was alive!
i wish your pups and mum all the best.you must have been besides yourself.
enjoy the babies youve got and hope mum and pups are doing well.xxx
have you paid the vet bill yet? i would definately not and even ask for some compensation for putting my little girl through a needless and very dangerous situation:-(
hi ann thats just horrible your poor girl and you :(....i wouldnt pay the vet :(
good luck to your girl and her beautiful butterflys xxx

I have paid the bill but plan to contest it properly when I have had some sleep and can write an appropriate letter.
For now just want to get pups sorted.
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