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- By Noora Date 12.11.08 02:05 UTC
Sasha was hit by a car after slipping out of her collar.
This is a day after I mentioned to my other half that we need to get a half check collar for her just in case, so she can not slip her head through the collar if she spooks etc.
She has never pulled her head through the collar but after it was mentioned here I thought it would be a good idea just to be safe.
I'm now beating myself up for talking but not acting!

She is currently at the vets, they have xrayed her and she has a broken pelvis.
She was hit to the back end and they seem positive that no other internal damage was made(xraying her chest, monitoring bloodpressure etc).
They have told us about possibility of damaged bladder(I think) as pelvis fractures can sometimes cause problems in that area.
I haven't currently got much more info, the specialist will be in tomorrow morning.

I only wanted to come here and see if anybody has any experiences about broken pelvis in a dog?
I can't really think straight at the moment so can't even come up with specific questions, any info would be greatly appreciated!

I'm off to bed and to try to sleep a little so I can function tomorrow but will be logging on first thing in the morning...
- By ali-t [gb] Date 12.11.08 07:52 UTC
I have nothing useful to contribute but am so sorry to hear about your sasha, positive thoughts coming for you all and fingers xed she comes through it unscathed
- By furriefriends Date 12.11.08 07:52 UTC
So sorry to hear that you doggie has had a nasty accident. I am sorry I cant give you any information but I send you my thoughts for her recpvery.
Dont beat yourself up,it is not your fault, just a horrible accident  and thank  god your it was not worse. Just concentrate on getting her better
regards
- By ShaynLola Date 12.11.08 08:11 UTC
A Boxer X Lab we sometimes walk with was hit by a car and suffered a broken pelvis. She was put on complete rest for several weeks and then exercise had to be reintroduced gently and gradually.  She made a full recovery and zooms about now just as she did before the accident.

Fingers crossed Sasha makes a full recovery too.

And don't beat yourself up about the collar...my large crossbreed has broken 2 collars when he has spotted a cat and gone off in pursuit.  On both occasions, he gave one sharp tug and was gone so no time for me to do anything to stop him. It is only sheer luck that the cats decided to run for the shelter of a garden rather than across a road. Sometimes these things happen no matter how careful we are or what precautions we have taken.
- By Whistler [gb] Date 12.11.08 09:07 UTC
Not the same but our young Border got OCD and a lot of that was us over exercising him - guilty or what!! these things happen you did nothing deliberatly wrong to hurt your dog so like other CDer's dont beat yourself up about it, we can all be wiser after the event. Its now about getting Sasha better and you feeling better about "an accident" thank god it was nothing worse.
- By mastifflover Date 12.11.08 09:58 UTC
Oh no. I'm sorry I have no advice, but please don't blame yourself about the collar, accidents happen, it far to easy to see what we should have done after the event.
My dog got hit by a car years ago, he amazingly never suffered any broken bones but it still took a good few weeks for him to recover and having witnessed it, it scared the life out of me. He bolted out of my front door - easily preventable if I had had a baby-gate inside the porch :(

I hope you have some good news about your Sasha today xx
- By Goldmali Date 12.11.08 10:04 UTC
Oh dear. No help here either I'm afraid but I am keeping everything crossed for Sasha to recover well.
- By shadbolts [gb] Date 12.11.08 10:30 UTC
Our dog was hit by a car and suffered a broken pelvis.  She needed complete rest for IIRC about 6 weeks and then restricted excercise for a couple of months.  Three years on she seems to be fine with no obvious problems, there is a chance that later in life she may have problems with arthritis but that's in the future for now you'd never know she'd had a problem.
- By Noora Date 12.11.08 10:53 UTC
Thank you very much everybody.
The positive outcomes others have had with fractured/broken pelvis have made me feel little better, feeling really teary though probably lot to do with being tired...

I could not sleep at all last night, I was just waiting for the phone to ring and them to have news something has gone wrong...
Having twice before lost a pet after they were left with the vets has scarred me for life, leaving your pet with vets and then never seeing them again!

I have called the vet this morning and she is doing ok which is good news.
Hasn't had a pee yet but they were just about to take her out to see if she will go.
This is a dog that held it in for +24 hours on the ferry when we were picking her up so I am little doubtful she will pee standing with one leg only until she really really needs to!

They have send the xrays to a larger vets with specialist and we should hear back from them at lunchtime.
We have been told we should not go and see her for now as they do not want her to get excited.
I totally understand this but it is so hard as all I want to do is sit with her and tell her it will all be fine, she must be wondering why we abandoned her there...
- By hairyloon [gb] Date 12.11.08 11:01 UTC
Keeping my fingers crossed that she makes a full and speedy recovery (and goes for a pee soon too!)

Claire
- By Teri Date 12.11.08 11:56 UTC
Hi Noora,

I'm so sorry to read this :(  You must be devastated but try and keep positive and get any rest you can.

No personal experience of a dog suffering from a broken pelvis but many years ago my sister's cat broke his pelvis when around a year old and he made a full recovery, going on to live well into his late teens with no obvious signs of ever having experienced such an injury.

Cyber hugs to you and prayers for Sasha's speedy recovery.

Teri x
- By dexter [gb] Date 12.11.08 12:55 UTC
Sorry to hear about your Sasha, no experience of this, but hope she makes a speedy recovery :)
- By selgovae [gb] Date 12.11.08 14:58 UTC
Noora

just read this, so sorry about Sasha, cant give any advice on the broken pelvis but knwo exactly what you're going through. Hudson was in the car boot when a white van man hit us from behind, so much force he totalled a volvo!!, hudson ended up with a 5 day stay at the vets with suspected this and that, I can still hear the poor mite screaming, BUT after 4 weeks cage rest he seems to have come through it much better than me, no mental scars anyway, he's very wobbly on his back legs but 600% better than he was. I think the general concensus is that leo pups are alot more resiliant than we give them credit for. They are also total wusses and will cry at the slightest thing.

anyway I'm rambling-hope Sasha recovers fully my thoughts are with you

Barbara
x
- By Noora Date 12.11.08 17:58 UTC
I have spoken with the vets and they will be operating on Friday and she will hopefully come home on Monday.
Currently Sasha's pelvis on the left side is broken in three pieces but the surgeon feels positive about the outcome as the pieces are big ones so they should be able to join them all together and if all goes as planned (surgery and the few weeks after the surgery) Sasha should be just fine. 
Also they are pleased that the hip joint itself seems to be in one piece as this would definately give her problems later in life if they had to put together the area where the joint is.

Currently her left hip is located ahead of the right one so it all sounds pretty massive damage there but she is full of pain killers and we have agreed on us not going to see her at all until after the surgery to minimalise her moving around...
The first few weeks after the surgery are very critical as being a big dog the power of their muscles can pull things apart so we really need to keep her calm and still for 2 weeks following the surgery, I'm really afraid she will do some damage to herself then, being boucy powerful 14 month old baby!

She has been very brave when it all happened and the vet was checking her over she hardly let out a whimper even though it must have been so painful when they moved around her left leg.

Barbara I'm sorry to hear what you have been going through with your puppy, that is awful thing to happen with such a little one!
Saying that, his young age must have been on his side and helped him to a road to recovery and his size too, don't even want to think about what the outcome would have been if the accident happened few months later and he was much larger!
- By Lori Date 12.11.08 18:19 UTC
I'm so sorry about Sasha but it's good news that the surgeon sounds so positive. Monday is such a long way away. :( Fingers crossed that everything goes well and she fully recovers quickly.
- By selgovae [gb] Date 12.11.08 19:12 UTC
Hi Noora

I'm under no illusion that if my older one had been in the car he wouldnt have survivied, but theres no point in what ifs is there.

Things sound better for you than I'd thought, hopefully Sasha will not want to move around herself for the first couple of weeks and this will give the time she needs to start to heal. Hope you have a big crate for her. Its so hard not being able to see them but the vets are right -she's in the best place now and its not worth upsetting her (and yourself). The painkillers will keep her woozy and time will pass quickly-soon she'll be home with you and you can cuddle her all you want.

Best wishes for Sasha
Bx
- By Jolene [in] Date 12.11.08 19:18 UTC
Hi Noora,

So sorry to hear about Sasha, I gave my puppy some scullcap and valarian tablets(dorwest herbs) to help keep her calm after surgery forTPLO, not the same I know, but she did spend 8 weeks in confinement (crated) and it was crutial that she didn't run, jump etc too.........................with very best wishes for a speedy recovery for Sasha XXX
- By Carrington Date 12.11.08 21:09 UTC
I have no experience to offer of a broken pelvis but I hope that Sasha will be fine, you must have been terribly shaken, please don't beat yourself up, we'd all love a crystal ball at times. I can only offer a ((hug)) and will be thinking of Sasha. xx
- By bilbobaggins [gb] Date 13.11.08 00:01 UTC Edited 13.11.08 00:04 UTC

> a white van man hit us from behind


We have had two bumps in different cars  Both times the first thing we said was thank god no dogs in the car!!
I saw a crash cage at DD  it was about £500 for our car, has any one else one of these, are they worth it, or is crate with a harness enough.

Hope both Hudson and Sasha "Get Well Soon".
- By Missie Date 13.11.08 01:38 UTC
Oh Noora :(
I am so sorry - I don't know what to say.
I will be thinking of you and Sasha, and praying that everything goes ok on Friday. {{hugs}}
When you do go to see her, give her an extra, gentle, hug from me.

xxx
- By dachmad [gb] Date 13.11.08 21:08 UTC
Keeping fingers and paws crossed for a speedy recovery.
- By Nova Date 14.11.08 08:30 UTC
Thinking of you, what a long weekend this will seem.
- By scarlettwynter [gb] Date 14.11.08 09:39 UTC
So sorry to read this. I hope that she will be on the road to recovery very soon.
- By Noora Date 14.11.08 18:13 UTC
I have just had a call from the vets and the operation went well and they are pleased how they got it all together.
The operation took few hours so it is a big operation and she is not out of the woods yet, next 24 hours are critical but I feel so much better now I know she has made it through the operation, the first point in a road to recovery!

It's been one of those weeks you just want to end, I got made redundant yesterday!
A good point of this is I can stay home and get Sasha back to full health without having to worry about having unpaid leave etc.
I have to say worrying about finding a another job is not even on my list at the moment, getting my baby well is!
I will now have approx 6 weeks to update my CV and get it out to agencies as I will not be able to leave Sasha at all for the first 2-3 weeks and even after that she will need to be supervised/caged...
Being a large dog there is a risk she will pull the plates/screws apart by just moving too much(very powerful muscles) so I will be clued to her side and not leaving her alone at all.

Luckily the company I worked for has reasonably generous redundancy package so we will be ok money wise for a while...

I thank you all for thinking of her and for your prayers, please keep sending her healing thoughts!
- By dollface Date 16.11.08 18:42 UTC
Sorry to hear- wish her a speedy recovery and I hope she's up and running soon :-)

Maybe when she's feeling a lil better and able to move around more keep her on leash at all times this way you can control how much she can move around so to speak- best of luck (((hugs)))
- By Noora Date 17.11.08 18:16 UTC
It has now been nearly a week and Sasha is still at the vets and will be for a while :(.
They have had to put a feeding tube to go straight to her belly as she has not been eating enough.
She can be a picky eater even when she is well and refuses to eat when stressed so I'm not surprised she has not been eating much being in pain and in a strange place with strange people.
They have taken some xrays today to make sure everything is still in place (this is when they put the tube in as well) and everything is fine.

We should be able to go and see her tomorrow and will be allowed to go and see her from now on :).
They will not let her to come home until she is fine with just oral pain killers and they are sure she is eating enough to sustain her weight and little extra to aid the healing process.

The tube sounds like such an invasive thing to do but we have been assured by the vet it really is better to get goodness in her via the little tube instead of force feeding her and stressing her out doing it.
The tube is at the back of her neck so she should not even really notice it being on high doses of pain killers she is on anyway.
She can eat via her mouth even now the tube is in and she has been eating a little but not enough to sustain her, being a large dog.

For us, it has been an awful weekend.
I even started to think maybe we should not put her through this all...
Have we been selfish putting her through this all?
When do you decide enough is enough and let them go?
The vet has not even mentioned that possibility and has been/is positive it should all turn out fine so I just have to trust their judgement...

I'm usually very positive and strong person but I have to say my positiveness has crumbled and deep down I'm struggling to keep positive and strong.
I just want to have a crying fit and go to bed and hide in there until everything is better!

I hope seeing her with my own eyes will help me to pick myself up again, I think I'm having withdrawal symptoms and feeling down and worrying even more just because I have not seen her!
- By dexter [gb] Date 17.11.08 19:26 UTC
Aah poor Sasha :( sending Sasha a big ((((hug))))

Boy what a horrendous week you've had!! i would feel exactly the same :)

Take care x
- By Dakkobear [gb] Date 17.11.08 19:53 UTC
Just read this - so sorry to hear about poor Sasha. I'm sure you will all feel much better once you get to see her - I would be climbing the walls if I couldn't see my girls after an accident. Fingers crossed it all goes well and you have her home with you soon.
- By Gunner [gb] Date 17.11.08 20:08 UTC
Hi
Have a blub and let it all out, but try and be positive for when you visit.  When you see her you will know how she is coping and if you still have any doubts will be able to talk it through face to face with the vets.  Until then, chin up and look after yourself - for her sake.  Best wishes....
- By suz1985 [gb] Date 17.11.08 22:35 UTC
please dont worry about the feeding tube, we put them in quite regularly at my place of work :)  a lot of dogs stay in for a while, i work at a large referral practice, and many patients will not eat! so its less stressful to place a tube, either a naso-oesophageal or oesophagostomy tube. they tolerate them very well, and they heal well afterwards.
- By Missie Date 18.11.08 09:27 UTC
Noora
All of us here are praying for a speedy recovery for Sasha.
Give her plenty of hugs and don't be too disheartened when you see her, I'm sure she will be fine hun {{hugs}} I k'now its hard seeing them there in 'hospital' and having to walk away, leaving them there, you will feel a lot better when she comes home.

Sorry to hear about you losing your job :( it never rains then it pours eh :(

Thinking of you and Sasha

Sending lots of leo hugs your way

xxxxxxx
- By tatty-ead [gb] Date 19.11.08 16:07 UTC
Did you go too see Sacha yesterday? how is she, bet she was pleased to see you. and how are you now after seeing her?
Chris
- By selgovae [gb] Date 19.11.08 16:16 UTC
Hi Noora

sorry to hear you're going through so much hell, hope todays visit went well.

hugs to you and Sasha

Barbara
- By Missie Date 19.11.08 17:28 UTC
How is she Noora?

{{hugs}}
- By Noora Date 19.11.08 17:32 UTC Edited 19.11.08 17:34 UTC
Sasha is home!
We went to see her yesterday and she was so much better she was the last time I saw her (day after the accident).
Today we called the vets in the morning to see how the night had been and were told she has really picked up since our visit and if we wanted to have her home we could!
She was feeling much better and had become bit of a handful for them to handle and keep calm so it was discussed and we all felt she would be better off home with us instead of the vets where there is something going on all the time.

So we went to get her and she is now sleeping in her crate.
She is not too happy about having to be in the crate but she will get used to it, the neighbours have been warned about possibility noisy protests for next few days.

She still has the feeding tube and we will need to supplement her eating if she doesn't eat enough herself but she is obviously more likely to eat at home so we are hoping we do not need to use the tube.
Her back end needs to be supported with a towel when she walks but we should be able to do that between me and my other half (one steering the front and one supporting the back).
Sasha is already putting some weight on the injured side which is really good progress and it is important she does use the leg to keep it mobile.
She will be cage rested for 2 weeks only going out to pee/poo but at least she is home!

So I'm feeling much better now :) after seeing her yesterday and now having her home earlier than we expected and she is doing so well.

We have been told to bring her back if we can't cope (moving her, feeding tube) but I'm hoping we will be just fine.
I'm not total numptie when it comes to caring for an ill dog so fingers crossed it will all go just fine.
- By Missie Date 19.11.08 17:43 UTC
Oh I'm so glad she is able to be at home with you :)
I know it will be stressful still, but at least you will be able to comfort her, and her you.

Sending more {{leo hugs}} to you all xxxxx

Dee xxxx
- By newf3 [gb] Date 19.11.08 18:19 UTC
glad to hear shes home.
hope she heals well.
thinking of you and her and sending posive thoughts your way
xx
- By breehant Date 19.11.08 23:03 UTC
Oh, so fantastic she is home, sending you very best wishes/ vibes for a speedy recovery. :)

Love and All our best wishes

D & The Spins
- By selgovae [gb] Date 19.11.08 23:13 UTC
Noora
so happy to hear that Sasha is home, must be a major weight of your mind.

hope your neighbours are as understanding as mine have been

Barbara
x
- By tatty-ead [gb] Date 27.11.08 21:30 UTC
Just wondering what the latest news on Sasha is since she has been home? all ok I hope.
- By Noora Date 28.11.08 16:07 UTC
Sasha is doing great.
I myself have been so ill, have had the cold of the century, can't even remember when I would have been this ill!
But I'm on a road to recovery myself too :)

Sasha seems a little depressed but I suppose it is quite normal, being cooped up in a crate 24/7.
I have taken her out every evening and let her lay next to the sofa instead of in her crate and this seems to cheer her up a little.

It has now been 2 weeks since the operation so soon we will be able to take her out for little longer than just to do her business.
I'm hoping this will cheer her up a little more.
She has been good as gold, taken to being in a crate much better I was thinking she would.

At the moment her back end is supported/part carried when we go out but soon we will be able to start easing out the support so she can start using the leg on the broken side. This will make it so much easier for us, it is not easy to half carry 50kg of dog around the garden 4 times a day!
The feeding tube was taken out few days ago too :) and she now only has a painkiller once a day and seems comfortable on this so she no longer rattles when she moves!

She was put on can's of food instead of her usual BARF and boy she smells!
In two weeks she has started smelling like the food she eats... Can't wait to put her back to her normal food and stop her being a stinky dog!

At first Sasha was stepping on the top side of her toes when she stepped with the damaged side but this has corrected itself so the vets are still very hopeful she have not got too much nerve damage and will get the full use of that leg back when we are done with physio/hydrotheraphy etc.

It has been hard work especially with me being so ill but we are getting there, 4 more weeks of crating left, 1/3 done!
- By Gunner [gb] Date 28.11.08 17:28 UTC
Glad she's progressing well!  :-)
- By Noora Date 11.12.08 18:18 UTC
I just thought I would do a little update.

Sasha is doing great :)!
She now walks around the house without being supported and also goes in our garden without the support(we have a very small garden!).
She is much happier now that she is allowed little more freedom.
It is funny how sleeping next to a crate is so much better than sleeping in the crate!

I have put together a little summary and also her xray pictures (before and after the operation) on our webpage if anybody wants to see them.
http://www.freewebs.com/poppycrew/bionicbitch.htm
- By tatty-ead [gb] Date 11.12.08 19:39 UTC
So pleased to hear she is making good progress and able to move around more easily, bet your back is pleased you don't have to support her :-) , the x rays were really interesting as seen similar of people but not for dogs
- By selgovae [gb] Date 12.12.08 03:02 UTC
Hi Noora

thats brilliant news, :-) @ lying beside the crate, mine does the same and 'seems' to be in such a deep sleep OH doesnt like to disturb him (sigh)

Bx
- By breehant Date 12.12.08 05:52 UTC
Hi Noora,

Great news, the best Christmas present you could ask for. So pleases Sasha is on the mend:)

All the Best

Dx
- By Noora Date 23.03.09 19:56 UTC
I just wanted to update everybody that Sasha has had her final xrays and it is all good :).
She has mended very well and is now allowed to do what ever she wishes, no restrictions when it comes to her pelvis.

The vet has even surprised us telling us the operation and healing went so well he would not even restrict her having puppies in the future!
This was a very nice surprise as I had already given up my dream of breeding from her.
So on top of being very expensive and much loved pet (Her "price tag" currently stands at nearly £10000!) she might be allowed to be a mummy too and fulfill my dream of 10 years!

I have put a little video of Sasha enjoying her newly found freedom in my profile (please excuse my other half squeking and talking finnish to her :))
It was the first time Sasha was allowed to go off lead and run as much as she wanted.

She still continues to go to hydrotherapy, swimming twice a week for at least few more months.
She loves the swimming so we might have to continue even if she doesn't really need it anymore...
- By suejaw Date 23.03.09 20:14 UTC
Noora is that Sasha running on the beach??

If so she looks so very happy, i'm so very pleased everything has worked out well for your girl and that she is running around like a loon now after all that hard work you and the vets went through.

Hope to maybe see you and Sasha at one of the summer champ shows this year.. Give her a huge hug for being so brave.
- By breehant Date 23.03.09 20:27 UTC
Fantastic news Noora,

As for the cost I'll bet she is worth every single penny. :)
- By AlisonGold [gb] Date 24.03.09 13:59 UTC
Fantastic news, loved the video footage she looks really well.
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