Hi everyone

Was looking for some help on behalf of a friend please.
She mated her gsd aged 2 1/2 in the summer to a  older dog 9 that normaly produces on avarage 11 pups,
she was confirmed in welp with 3 pups pregancy went really well she was healthy and active till she went into labour,
my friend has a good vet who was informed of her going into welp.
Her labour didnt go very well and to cut a long story short it ended in a c section and the worst possible she lost the 3 pups despite the vet working for a hour and 15 minutes trying to get them going . She has recovered really well and is in top health , so i was wondering if anyone had any advice can she breed from her girl again without risking her health i know there is allways a certin amout of risk involved in breeding

My girl had a c-section 18 months ago, I won't be breeding from her again....................I suppose it all depends on the cicrumstances surrounding the c-section which should be taken into consideration as to whether she should be bred from again

Was going to say the same.  If it was due to primary Inertia this can be hereditary.

I had a C section with one of my girls for her third and last litter.  she had not had a litter for 3 1/2 years and it was a small litter, and the labour just didn't progress.  Now if this had been a first litter I may not have bred from her, but it was her last.

Mine is a normally easy whelping breed, and her daughter had no problems whelping nor did two generations of bitches after that, nor any problems whelping with a daughter in Australia.

Had this been a breed where Inertia at whelping is often a problem, then I would not have bred from a bitch with this problem again, and possibly not from her offspring.

I would be looking at your bitches female relatives, did her Mother/sisters/ maternal aunts etc have problem free whelpings, if so I would try again.

I know she has done alot of reserch into the lines on both sides and there were no problems all easy welps with normal numbers of pups.
I do know that she was mated late in her season as didnt seem ready before so i think he might of caught her late, resulting in a small litter!
I know some larger breeds have difficult welps with small numbers not enough force behind the pups to push them out,
As for the labour she had contractions then they stopped she then took her to the vets and once she got there awful black gunk started to drip that is when the c section took place .

Sounds like there were dead whelps that poisoned the others.

My vet recommends a clear season between after a c-section, as there is a risk with the scarring attaching to other parts of the intestines.

Had meant to say that wait a season and then mate on the next one.

Hi, I hope the girl is now well and recovered. This is really a catch 22 situation, I had a bitch, 3rd and final litter that had whelped easily on the previous 2 litters. She didn't progress with her final labour and ended up having a c sec due to inertia. She had whelped 2 previous litters of 8 but the c sec litter we only had 3 pups. Vet advised that the inertia was caused as she had big litters before and lots of wigglies help the whelping process along. As she only had 3 it became difficult.
I ,personally if it had been her 1st litter would not have bred from her again unless I checked fully the dams behind her line.
May be worth sending an e-mail to Proff Garry England (google him) to ask for an unbiased opinion.

Snap almost exactly my situation with my Tula.

I had an Akita that started to lose black fluid the day before her due date. She had a section with 2 dead pups 1 very tiny which looked like it had been dead for a while and a beautiful big pup which looked like it was alive. The smaller pup had died and was infront of the other pup stopping it from being born and it was poisened.
I chose then never to breed Sheena again.
She was spayed 2 years after and got over the op great. 8 weeks after the poor girl died to cancer. It was a great shock and Im still heartbroken over the loss of my most loyal friend.