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Topic Dog Boards / Feeding / Natures Menu or Naturediet
- By Angels2 Date 05.10.07 06:47 UTC
Hi,

we are thinking of adding a wet food to our cavvies dry diet. He is on science plan natures best and has been doing well on it but he seems bored of it!

Having previously seen posts about the above 2 foods we thought we might give them a go but it would appear neither do a puppy food?

Our cavvy is 8 months old can he eat the normal one or should we try something else?

Thanks
- By Ktee [au] Date 05.10.07 07:00 UTC Edited 05.10.07 07:02 UTC

>Our cavvy is 8 months old can he eat the normal one or should we try something else?


He can eat the normal one.He's at an age now where puppy food isnt as vitally important. You dont have to limit yourself to commercial food add in's.You could mix in fresh foods like chicken,beef,lamb,cottage cheese,yogurt,scrambled or raw eggs,healthy left overs from your meals,a few steamed veggies and fruits every now and then.The list is endless :D

>but he seems bored of it!


I imagine he would be.Imagine eating nothing but a dry,processed packet food every single day,for every single meal,you would soon get tired of it too :( I have absolutely NO doubt dogs get bored of eating the same stuff day in day out,and the ones who get nothing but processed foods must utterly CRAVE real,fresh foods :(

My dogs will eat a bowl of plain dry food,but i rarely give them just that.I always mix in something with their dry food,and they get raw meaty bones on a daily basis.
- By Angels2 Date 05.10.07 07:25 UTC
Is there a list of foods that i can get anywhere of the foods that would be ok to eat?

I must admit to being a bit scared when it comes to human food!:rolleyes:
- By Blue Date 05.10.07 09:40 UTC
I imagine he would be.Imagine eating nothing but a dry,processed packet food every single day,for every single meal,you would soon get tired of it too  I have absolutely NO doubt dogs get bored of eating the same stuff day in day out,and the ones who get nothing but processed foods must utterly CRAVE real,fresh foods

hmmm

I have absolutely NO doubt dogs get bored of eating the same stuff day in day out 

I don't comment on your food posts very often Ktee for some reason they just seem to say the same thing over and over again and in my opinion ( a word you seem to forget to use and should really start using :-D )with no real substance behind them to be honest.  I always get the feeling from your post nobody feeds their dogs like Ktee does :-D  hmmmm..  I often wonder what other thing you could plow all this repeatedly used energy into :-)

Some dogs happily eat the same food all their lives and you will find that is probably the most common.

Whilst I feed my dogs a varied diet most raw foods dogs or anyone cannot "utterly" crave what they have never had. :-)
- By Ktee [au] Date 06.10.07 03:22 UTC
Nice post Blue :rolleyes: Who rattled your cage....... :confused:

For such a long post,you did'nt manage to add anything useful to this thread...hmmmmmm

>dogs or anyone cannot "utterly" crave what they have never had.


Is that "in your opinion", is it? Well i beg to differ :) IMO :) Any person or creature which has evolved to eat real food will crave it and need it,whether they have never been given it or not.

>Some dogs happily eat the same food all their lives


Yes you're right :( But i'm not sure how happy they are about it,they just have no choice..Eat it or starve!

>I must admit to being a bit scared when it comes to human food


Angels dont think of it as "Human food".Fresh,real foods should be available to everyone,not just to be reserved for humans.Our dogs deserve fresh foods too :)
- By Ktee [au] Date 06.10.07 03:40 UTC
And dogs DO know what they're missing. They smell "people" food, see you eating it etc. IMO it's really depriving them by only feeding them kibble for their entire lives.
- By HuskyGal Date 07.10.07 08:48 UTC
Your both (Ktee & Blue) making very good observations (from an animal husbandry point of view)
But its the way your making them...
*claps hand to head*
Guys please enough!!!
Folk read this and your tone and the personal level at which comments are aimed, just switches people off....
Your losing what sound advice you have to offer in the ether..
We're all a little battle weary and could do with the good that you give..not the bad.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 05.10.07 07:10 UTC
Have you also considered Forthglade.  I think they made this kind of vacuum tray food long before the others.  http://www.forthglade.com/
- By Angels2 Date 05.10.07 07:26 UTC
I have emailed tham to see if they stock out here or could deliver and costs etc.:cool:
- By Lori Date 05.10.07 10:19 UTC
If you like the look of it you can buy Forthglade from a few online retailers. If they don't, one of the other retailers might deliver to your area.

Edited to add: by all means look around and ask your vet if you're unsure but I feed my dogs all sorts of human food. Mostly things with meat, veg, pasta or rice in it. I avoid oinions, grapes, raisins and of course no chocolate. I don't give them anything with sugar either.
- By zarah Date 05.10.07 12:12 UTC
Naturediet do a puppy food, although not sure up to what age.
- By dvnbiker [gb] Date 05.10.07 12:20 UTC
both are good foods.  I personally prefer natures menu as it is a nicer consistency and I find it easier to get all of the flavours.

PAH do quite a lot of these wet foods so worth a trip there.
- By Angels2 Date 05.10.07 12:51 UTC
Wish i could pop to pah....
- By Angels2 Date 05.10.07 12:50 UTC
As far as i can see we only have one stockist over here and they only do 2 flavours of the adult but no puppy version:rolleyes:
- By Lori Date 05.10.07 13:52 UTC
Many local pet stores will order things in for you. If they already buy the adult version they might get the puppy for you.
- By luvhandles Date 05.10.07 17:50 UTC
Hi,
I've had a bad experience with naturediet - mucusy horrid poo's, but no problems with natures menu but then I have heard some people have had bad experiences with natures menu...........both are equally nutritious I believe - (I'm no expert). I suppose it's trial and error really - One point however, naturediet stinks to high heaven and makes me gag yet natures menu smells almost good enough to eat:eek:  :D
- By luvhandles Date 05.10.07 17:55 UTC
I wouldn't worry about the puppy version - I'm sure the adult one will be fine at 8 months as your dog is a small breed and your only going to be adding a bit to the dry food. I was instructed by my vet to change Harvey over to adult food at six months as the protein level is lower and he had runny stools when fed the puppy variety
- By Angels2 Date 07.10.07 08:00 UTC
Well we gave our boy natures menu mixed in with his dried food and i have never seen him eat so quickly!!

He has never just eaten his food when i have put it down but he ate it all and licked the bowl!:cool:
- By pepsi1 Date 07.10.07 16:37 UTC
Ifeed my dogs on a good complete food with a small amount of natures menu mixed in and they are doing really well on it, Hope your boy continues to enjoy it.:cool:
- By Angels2 Date 07.10.07 17:33 UTC
hmm i think i spoke too soon, he was sick tonight after he ate his dinner!:rolleyes:

We have changed his diet several times and i think that maybe we need to persevere with the one he's on but take it up quicker as we tend to leave it down for a lttle while so maybe if he's hungry enough then he'll eat it?
- By zarah Date 07.10.07 17:40 UTC
Maybe you gave too much too soon? You only want to add about a teaspoon really on the first day given his small size, then gradually add a tiny bit more day by day.
- By munrogirl76 Date 07.10.07 19:30 UTC
Have you added the new food really gradually over several days, increasing a tiny bit at a time? If not, that may be the problem. :)

As Zarah has already said. :D
- By Angels2 Date 07.10.07 20:21 UTC
Yes he only had a small amount although it was more than a teaspon so i will reduce the amount even further and see if this makes any difference!

:cool:
- By luvhandles Date 07.10.07 20:56 UTC
Perhaps its just the fact that he's eaten all up with gusto that's made him sick - if he doesn't normally eat up all at once? Also, did you reduce his dried food slightly to allow for the wet?
- By Angels2 Date 07.10.07 21:06 UTC
Yes maybe that is the case he has certainly never eaten like that before!

No didn't reduce the dry as it was such a small amount
- By Angels2 Date 09.10.07 10:57 UTC
Well he has been ok for the past couple of days we've had no sick (thank goodness) and he still seems to love it!

I wish they did smaller pouches though as i hate putting it in our fridge and i'm sure it can't be as nice eating it cold!!:eek:
- By dvnbiker [gb] Date 09.10.07 13:58 UTC
you can take out of the fridge about 10 mins before you want to use it or you could always microwave it for about 5-10 secs just to take the chill off - we do this with our cat food!
- By Angels2 Date 09.10.07 14:14 UTC
I'm quite scepitcal about microwaving food (bit of a nutrition freak!) but i will take it out of the fridge a bit earlier so it can warm up a bit although in this weather who knows!!:rolleyes:
- By HuskyGal Date 09.10.07 14:45 UTC
Angels just sit the pouch in a bowl or measuring jug of warm (not hot) water..this'll take the edge off :)
(The vomiting (active) was very likely more regurgitating (passive).. to be expected if food was bolted down)
Glad alls well.
- By Angels2 Date 09.10.07 17:57 UTC
Thanks for all your suggestions. I think you guys have taken on the role of my breeder!:cool:
- By Angels2 Date 10.10.07 16:48 UTC
Does anyone else's dog poo more frequently on wet food than dried only?

He seems to be pooing for england!:rolleyes:
- By Weird Dog [gb] Date 17.10.07 08:51 UTC
too much waste cuold be because too much food is being fed or because the food is slightly wrong for him. i feed Nature dietbut am quite mean with portions, prefering to have a lean slighty wanting dog than a completely satisfied lazy dog ( i hate seeing fat dogs). she is far more active and attentive to me this way espceially when training with extra treats. because her body needs to process all the food i feed, she only poos small bullets.
- By Angels2 Date 17.10.07 09:03 UTC
Thanks for reply but he is off wet food now and just eating his dry and his poo is fine.:cool:
- By luvhandles Date 17.10.07 11:19 UTC
:rolleyes: what is he like!! I would persevere with the dry then. I read somwhere recently - don't know if it was on here or another site that if a dog goes off their dry food, try adding a tiny bit of sunflower oil out of a can of tuna?? Might be worth a try if his lordship gets bored again  ;)
- By Angels2 Date 17.10.07 13:07 UTC
I know!:rolleyes:

We have been giving him left overs aswell like salmon etc every few days so i think that has helped and i'm glad to have that food out of my fridge it made me gag!!:eek:
Topic Dog Boards / Feeding / Natures Menu or Naturediet

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