we shouldnt let our dogs have run of the house for their own sake and ours and safety as well comes into it.

Why not? My dogs have the run of the entire house (bar the gerbil room). New pups are confined to the kitchen until house trained and trusted, then allowed out with the rest. Including family dogs since I was a youngster thats 32 dogs and none have harmed themselves - or us :D

well in our house it applicable as we have a studio with leads and a big stero for surround sound so it would be good for her to have full roam, and with our girl we just let her have roam of the kitchen and she chewed a cupboard! even with a massive morning walk and loads of toys! i just meant that for safty purposes!
but im going to have a look at that link with CM , seems we dont see all of his training over here. ik quite shocked but have to say thanks to the people who made me aware, now i know for the future!

Well just to clear the air we HAVE been teaching Salty bite inhibition since day 1, following 'that great article' and now only very occasionally and very gently mouths us but immediately stops upon a 'leave it' - except during his getting-rarer short loss-of-control episodes.  So we're pleased with his progress given how awful he was when we got him (couldn't take 2 steps withouth having our trousers ripped off) and will keep working on calming him down!  Thanks again for all the advice.

Kathryn

Well done and sounds like you feel much better about his training and progress - Keep up the good work

Just a thought - and sorry if this has been mentioned already - but what do you feed him on?  I'm reminded of a dog I know who has quite a few allergies, he can't have any animal protein at all so he's on a vegan diet.  Any animal protein and his behaviour changes - his owner reports that he has loopy sessions a bit like the loss-of-control eps you've described.

I've also noted quite a few people reporting changes for the better in crazy puppies after changing diet; most were feeding Baker's previously, but I've heard of improvements with other changes too.

I have also heard that a lot of the highly coloured dog foods can cause over-the-top behaviour just like some children are affected by food colourings.

Rach85 are you in the US? It appears alot of Americans think a crate automatically comes with a dog,they are so overused and abused,personally i hate them.In the US they think nothing of crating a dog for up to 8 hours a day and then again overnight

As for Cesar,yes he has managed to brainwash an awful lot of people(if Oprah recommends someone they are an instant star),but many are now starting to see how outdated his way's are.On another[U.S] forum i belong to they had to dedicate a special board to CM,because of the constant debates and arguments taking over the other boards.The are owners who use only positive training/reinforcement with their dogs and there are others who use negative reinforcement/punishment,it seems the former hate CM's methods and the latter worship him.You either love or hate him...

hi everyone, sometimes i believe you do have to be hard on your dog to get it trained, all gundog trainers are very strict with there dogs and some do say they are a bit cruel, also my dog jumps and leaps at me when i get in and i honestly believe he is just very excited to see me, however he does not jump up at my partner at all as he is quiet strict with our dogs and is the one who trains them, so rach i do understand what you mean,

Im a fan of millan he has saved so many pits an rotts and other breeds from being put to sleep. please tell me anyone in england that can do what he dose? or do better i would love to meet them.  he is the best iv seen yet

I can think of lots of people who can turn round dogs, however remember PBT are illegal in the UK, unless registered, muzzled(in public),neutered & kept on a lead.

There are T Touch therapists who can turn a dog around without the pain, fear, pinch collars & high under the ears collars-used by CM.

There are trainers like him that train using bullying as he does

But it is the owners in 99.9999999% of cases that need the help not the dogs

He had to fight that Bulldog that bit him whilst he was"training"it using the Alpha Roll didn't he !!

sorry but did i say anything about pits in england NO, if you do not like him why do you watch???? coz you no he the best thats why

>if you do not like him why do you watch???? coz you no he the best thats why

Excuse me I certainly do NOT consider him the best in fact I don't consider him at all as a dog trainer-as an old fashioned dog breaker(ie uses force, pain etc)he is probably one of the worse offenders I have seen

I watch to see what people who bring their problems to me might be doing to their dogs to cause problems. Had one that had not only been Alpha rolled & pinned to the ground by the owner after watching the owner, but who had the under the ears chokers used on it as well(it cuased severe damage to the dogs neck)They couldn't understand why it hadn't worked on the puppy-they copied the training from one of his DVDs. Took me months of very slow progress to get the dog's trust enough for it to be rehomed safely

well thats your view i still think he's the best out there,
and yes you do get silly people who think they can do what he dose.
so tell me how would you go about a gsd with very bad aggr to people and other dogs?

keep them on a lead away from people and other dogs so they have no chance to hurt anybody.
well that what i do with my 3 year old gsd with aggression problems

i dont have a gsd i was just asking whats she would do??

Each case would be treated individually. Anyone advocating a one-size-fits-all bullying regime is no good.

>i dont have a gsd i was just asking whats she would do??

The cat's mother here certainly would not Alphas roll him/her nor use a pinch collar nor the choker high under the ears

I've dealt with loads of poorly socialised GSD's with this fear problem(& it is 99% fear alone)

So the dog needs good experiences near people & dogs, so I would first gain the dogs confidence then find it's safety distance(IE the distance it can be near the object of it's fear without reacting-using stooge dogs & experienced handlers)

Strangely enough even the most fearful GSDs we have had in rescue have had no problem with me or the lady who runs the rescue, probably because unlike CM we do not approach the dog head on & have no inner fear of the dog, so gaining the dogs confidence is never a problem.

Using aggression back to the dog in the form of pain/intimidation as CM does is a quick short lasting fix, that stops the behaviour by causing the dog even more suffering. Look at the eyes of the dogs CM "treats"they show the fear & submission he instills & that is no way to treat a dog. His dogs are like robots no character & they still show aggression to new comers that he allows. Dogs are social animals & a normal dog will show suspicion of a new comer but not the aggression that happens within his "pack"

TBH 50 dogs is way bigger than any "natural pack"of dogs, if you observe "feral"dog packs are never that big & ergo his dogs do not live in a real dog pack but an artifical one controlled by fear