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- By rachelsetters Date 15.09.06 07:48 UTC
I'm really pleased it's working out Kay and that you have your boy back!
- By Teri Date 15.09.06 11:22 UTC
Whoo whoo - all sounds very promising (you can fill in that shallow grave now :D )

Everything crossable duly in position that Ollie's transformation is complete and permanent.  You must be so relieved that you're seeing progress.  Poor little guy - lucky he has a good mum!

Teri x
- By TrishaH [gb] Date 15.09.06 11:47 UTC
Kay, so glad to hear that things are so promising with this. Hope the bliss continues :)
Congratulations to Ollie and you one your stardom!
- By AlisonGold [gb] Date 15.09.06 12:23 UTC
Hi Kay

So happy that it seems to be doing something to help.  My friends dog seems to be a little better and they have definitely seen some improvement. This dog suffers from senile seperation anxiety and has been on drugs from the Vet with no improvement so they are quite happy that they have seen some improvement in that he doesn't seem quite so anxious. I once asked for help on the forum about this dog and got one answer that it would be kinder to put the dog to sleep so I am so glad they have perservered, albeit that I have no connection with this dogs breeding.  The owner has also said that if it really becomes a marked improvement they would like to endorse the product.  I look forward to seeing Ollie's name 'in lights'.
Keep your fingers crossed for my friends dog.
- By kayc [in] Date 15.09.06 12:38 UTC

>I once asked for help on the forum about this dog and got one answer that it would be kinder to put the dog to sleep so I am so glad they have perservered,


:eek: So am I Alison... yes I know there is a time when one has to take a step back and look at the big pitcure... but if the big picture is re-framable... then all is not lost ;)

Will ask Christine on Sunday to get in touch with you re your friend.....

I do realise that it is only a few days, and we have a long road to travel, but even the slightest improvement gives hope for a better future and life for him... the fact that even the simple communication level is apparent means that I can adjust to whatever level he is on, to keep his spirit without losing concentration too much... He is now at a level where I can get him to focus on me, without manic episodes... I went out this morning, only just back, and listened outside the house before coming in, and nothing...not a peep... crept up to bedroom window and he was sound asleep in his crate...but even better, when I went to get him out.. he was dry... now that is a 1st for months... the stress of me leaving him has made him soil maybe 2/3times in an hour.... so, even if this is the level we stick at....its worth it :)

I will most certainly keep everything crossed for you friends dog, i can totally empathise with her....
- By AlisonGold [gb] Date 15.09.06 13:52 UTC
Christine is very helpful and knows about this dog,(saw her on Sunday at Richmond). Has kindly sent me some more of the calmer to keep him going until it is on sale.  The owners definitely want to perserve with the calmer because they have seen some improvement. So pleased for you that it seems to have made such a difference in only 3 days.  Hope he keeps improving. Good luck on Sunday at Darlington, I will not be going, but will look out for you at Gundog Breeds (if you are going).  Must say that these people adore their dog, so PTS was not an option for them.
- By Dill [gb] Date 15.09.06 19:06 UTC
Kay,

That is wonderful news :) the fact that you're seeing a small improvement at this early stage is very encouraging.  If he can relax enough to get some proper sleep it will make a big difference, researchers have found that chronic sleep deprivation can cause psychotic behaviour,  disorientation, hyperacticity etc. and can affect physical health too :eek:

Keeping everything crossed that things just keep improving for you both.

Regards
Dill
- By kayc [in] Date 16.09.06 08:52 UTC

>researchers have found that chronic sleep deprivation can cause psychotic behaviour,  disorientation, hyperacticity etc. and can affect physical health too


I do understand that part of his phsychie.... I have suffered from sleep deprivation for around 6 years...and I do get to the stage where I shake and feel nauseus.... and occassionally dissorientated....but at least I know what is happening to me... Poor Ollie hasnt a clue what is happening to him
- By Lori Date 15.09.06 19:16 UTC
Great news Kay. So many positive little improvements have got to add up. Just getting real sleep has got to be good for his doggie well-being. I hope he continues to improve.
- By skyblue22 [gb] Date 15.09.06 21:14 UTC
Hi, I've just read about a book called "The Dog Who Loved Too Much" by Nicholas Dodman, which just might be pertinent to your dog. It's a series of case histories including one dog which couldn't bear to be separated from its owners...
- By kayc [in] Date 16.09.06 08:23 UTC
Spoke too soon lol, that will teach me :rolleyes:  2.30am till 10mins ago... pacing and barking... has now scraped all the skin of his nose trying to lift carpet away from floor, convinced something is under there :confused: I finally lifted the carpet....which seemed to satisfy him...

Ah well, 2 steps forward, 1 step back...

Just googled for that book Skyblue, and found another one by same author, "If only they could speak" both sound interesting.... she says...reaching for the Visa card yet again :eek: :)
- By kayc [gb] Date 17.09.06 13:55 UTC
Aother step forward... the little darling, sweetheart, angel :P ...just qualified for Crufts at Darlington this morning.... :D :D :D

Oooh and Wallace got a reserve in MPD :D
- By MINI-MEG [gb] Date 17.09.06 14:35 UTC
congratulations ollie & kay.im so pleased ollieis getting bk to his old self :) hes lucky to have a good caring mummy coz alot of people would of given up on him by now .i hope he continues to improve for you :)
- By kayc [gb] Date 17.09.06 14:42 UTC
thanks Sarah... :)  he bounced into the ring... flounced in cirles..and bounced out of the ring again...BUT,.. he managed to hold it together just long enough for the judge to see his potential..... love him to bits ;)

>alot of people would of given up on him by now


lol, I keep telling him, that if I hadn't bred him myself, he would have gone straight back to the breeder lol ;)
- By AlisonGold [gb] Date 17.09.06 15:59 UTC
Well done Kay.
- By perrodeagua [gb] Date 17.09.06 19:52 UTC
I hope it comes on the market soon then as it may be a help to my youngest who is definitely not of a nervous nature but will not allow people to go over her, she just freaks out and is in my previous post this is due to her being partially sighted.  Of course I didn't realise this until she had the normal eye test.
- By kayc [gb] Date 03.10.06 09:12 UTC
Just a little update... Ollie doing really well on the calmer... very responsive ...still not dropping "The Spawn of Satan" image... :D wonderful high spirited boy, but training coming on tremendously... have got more out of him in the last 3 weeks than the whole of his 1st year.... oh yes... its his 1st birthday today :D 

I am delighted with not only the product, but Christine at Topspec, who has been very helpful and has a very painful right ear, listening to my ramblings lol.... and although I dont particularly need it, I asked her to send me the Topspec Coat & Skin supplement.... Ollie went mental when I opened the tub... no wonder.. the aroma is yummy .... close your eyes and think of Thorntons Rum Truffles :D :D  half tempted myself lol :P
- By Dill [gb] Date 03.10.06 20:18 UTC
Kay that's such good news :D :D

You must both be so relieved :) :) now you can really start enjoying him again :)

I like the sound of the coat and skin supplement :) :)  but not for the dogs :) :)
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