As you say, a forum is worthless if it only gives one point of view. :)

"As you say, a forum is worthless if it only gives one point of view. ""

Unless, of course, it is mine! :D

LOL! :D :D

I know what the original poster means. Constructive criticism is obviously a good thing but sometimes the advice offered can have more than whiff of superiority & sarcasm - not helpful at all. Personally I have followed a few threads lately & felt very sorry for the original poster who probably won't ask for much needed advice in future. No-one's perfect.

Sometimes it does help if posters avoid a sense of humour by-pass before asking for help too:rolleyes:

As has been said elsewhere - many times people misread what's there. What's light-hearted humour to one person is sarcasm to another. As for superiority - when I've asked a question on here (and I have, many times) I certainly hope the people who answer do have superior knowledge to me, or the answer's worthless! :D

some people are very sensitive by nature and perhaps posting and making themselves vulnerable  is not the right thing for them to do as they are not equipped to deal with things they dont want to hear.

misstyko,if you think people are being rude or harsh ,just take what you want from the advice (which can be usefull) and ignore the personality. There are some really kind , generous people on C.D. who shine through . I don't know any one personally on here but there have been some very kind and helpful responses to my posts. Stick with it.Your opinion is equally valid to every-one elses. good luck

You mean Mine!!

:D :D :D :D

Eek! A clique! :p :D :D

Noooo the cliquey (hipped?) sisters :D :D

JG you poet you...............

If one wants advice without comment/opinion/questions etc then perhaps a book rather than a forum is the answer; the former does not answer back, argue or give any other viewpoint other than the author's, generally speaking; what is more it costs you money, where here one is offered amusement, knowledge, expertise as well as being challenged, questioned and teased completely free of charge!

Tohme with all respect I still think you're missing the point.  It's not about the advice - the advice is generally good.  It's about the snide, unneccessary comments which never need to be said.

Debs

PS. And if you read my earlier post I did say that I myself have to watch what I say and/or do as I tend to write before I think ;)

>It's about the snide, unneccessary comments which never need to be said.

The problem as I see it is that in 99% of the time people misinterpret what's written and read a meaning which was never intended, then get on the defensive rather than asking for an explanation.

Of course there are always those who refuse to accept that they may in fact be wrong, despite the majority of posts pointing this out, and the word 'clique' gets bandied about. That's life, though. I'm sure we're all adult enough to take it. :)

And, of course, there's the problem of the answer being not what was wanted. Sometimes even prayers are answered with a resounding "NO!" (for which I for one am very grateful, because I don't want a pony any more, even though I prayed for one for a long time!).

But people are human and most write the way that they would speak, if they were at a discussion group, face-to-face. Just because this is an internet forum does not mean that people have to write totally factually without any opinion, passion or expression :) I don't want to converse with an automaton :)

Daisy

Wouldn't it be nice if everyone did that instead of casting accusations of cliqueiness? (A comment not directed at anyone in particular, just in general.)

Yes it would Jeangenie :)

I totally agree with you Debs and thought about the blasphemy thread too when I was reading this. 
This board currently has examples of what I would consider extremely offensive behaviour (e.g. someone trying to sexually assault somebody in the cinema in front of their children and flashers etc) but this is shrugged off as being part of life but for someone to use God's name in a perceived improper way creates a whole thread about why this is wrong - while not forgetting this is not a 'fluffy board' :rolleyes:.
I too find that there is a lot of double standards and that a lot of people tend to jump on the bandwagon when posts get heated.

>a lot of people tend to jump on the bandwagon when posts get heated.

On both sides ... ;)

of course that is true JG but for a new person it can seem like they have no-one in their corner coz they don't have any 'cyber friends' on the board yet.  This is why issues of bullying and cliques tend to be raised but those who do tend to ride out the initial storm and stick with the board do generally become 'accepted'. 
I can think of many members who I have seen take a lot of stick from established members due to their initial posts but later go on to become established members themselves.  I would imagine that if most people could see their first few posts on champdogs and had to answer them themselves with hindsight and experience, their answers wouldn't be quite what they expected to hear when they initially posted all those years/months ago!

I've never had a problem posting on here - but then I'm used to net chatrooms and forums so I guess I knew what to expect ;) .  People have, in general, been nothing but pleasent to me on here :)
DEbs

I was asking a question to get clarification - how that can be twisted into trying to 'catch you out' is beyond me!

Ah well, there are those that like to think of themselves as "victimised" instead of being professional victims............

Just because they are, does not mean they are not if you get my drift....... :D :D

phew!it took me ages to read all that!after the 1st punch it starts to numb anyway;-) i thought all that when i first joined and now i think this place is bloody great.your all my friends *sob*.constructive criticism is what makes this forum so funny,oh and a bit of dry wit!

AND a good sense of humour :D ;)

Daisy

exactly daisy!perhaps im too much the other way.i could take EVERYONE on after my scrap last night!;)

"exactly daisy!perhaps im too much the other way.i could take EVERYONE on after my scrap last night!"

Lovely class of people on here

The full spectrum of society, I should think. Which is good. :)

Methinks you missed my post about having a good sense of humour :D

Daisy

Sun has now gone in/down - and I'mback from a lovely walk with the Mob, who behaved absolutely wonderfully.

Whilst walking, I was discussing this thread, and friend asked me "do you mean to say, people ask questions of people they don't know and expect to get approving answers each time?".

That got me thinking - in general, we'll discuss certain points with friends who we know share the same points of view - they may come from a slightly different angle, but as a rule, we know what sort of reaction we will get.  Generally, they will view our point with approval.

However, on a board like this, a question is thrown into the wide blue yonder.   Who knows who reads this - could be anyone - from Osam Bin Laden to HM the Q   (quick curtsey & pull of forelock  - just in case ;) )

From different cultures, different countries, different regions, different generations, different educational standards - and we all expect to get the answer we want.   We all give the answers in the manner we would to our peers, face to face.

No wonder there are differences !!!   And long may they continue!

Margot

Not another boring thread moaning about CD posters :rolleyes:

You know, if I visit a forum on the net and I don't like the tone of it - I just don't stay there - unless, of course it is actually SO full of good information that I can't resist. Generally, I will then just put up with it and get to know the regulars. I wouldn't dream of complaining about it and about people on it.

So, I would say that those who complain about this board on this board should put up and shut up - or move along cos there's nothing to see here :D :D :D

LOL ChloeH - 77 messages long too :D

OK I think I understand now. If anything's said about the board it's moaning - if people bitch at posters asking questions thats fine.  Got it :D  I can now post without thought to anyone :rolleyes:

So its not OK to bitch at posters questions (bitching in your opinion) but its ok to bitch about the folk who post on the board in general?

To be honest, we get these threads all the time, and it really bugs me. I don't even post on contentious/breeding threads, but if I had a problem with my dog this is the first place I would come to for advice. If folk don't like it - why do they stick around?

If folk don't like it - why do they stick around?

Because there are people on this board who know what they're talking about but also who know how to put things in a decent way when answering questions :)

So it ISN'T what is said ..it is the *way* it is said?

Hmm ......my advice would probably be to get thicker skins before using the www then :)

I think that we should colour code our replies, so that the more sensitive members can ignore our posts :) Oh - I have just remembered that there is the 'IGNORE' facility on here. Perhaps Admin could bump it up again and then those of a more sensitive disposition could put all those that they don't like (which is basically what they are saying) on IGNORE and then they wouldn't have to put up with us (or our advice, which is probably useless to them anyway)

I'm not posting on this thread anymore - I have to have a reality chillout session now :D

Daisy

Well said that woman :)

I think that we should colour code our replies, so that the more sensitive members can ignore our posts

I think that we should colour code the members not the replies (because it's only the readers' perception as to how they read them!) so the we can ignore the more sensitive members! :)

*sigh*

To summarise:

1. A person posted about an older bitch having pups

2. She was given good advice PLUS comments from people , some of which she didn't like

3. Somone else then came to this thread and complained about the replies ...the ones on that thread AND the ones on a thread they had begun

4. Several people tried to explain WHY all of the replies were not fluffy ...

5. Then a small clique of people set about complaining (how many times have we seen this happen?? LOL) about the cliquiness of the board (see the pattern here?)

6. Naturally, the board members explained their position

7. Said clique then comtinued making immature remarks

You can't please all of the people all of the time, and it's pointless to try. The best you can be is honest - if people can't cope with that, that's their problem, not yours. :)

"from Osam Bin Laden to HM the Q"

Yes, who knows when HM the Q might need some help with her Corgis?  And where else to turn than Champdogs?

She's probably as worried about the docking debate as any of us, what with her docked Corgis and all.

YE GODS!!! Don't bring docking into this, some people may just implode :p :p :p

(On second thoughts ........ :D :D )

So THATS who 'Corgi-Gal' is then

Oh well  as someone said before there is varied classes of people on here- even ranging to regal!

im finding this quite amusing really, i'd describe this as a straight to the point, factual, abrupt exchange of views- with the odd hint of sarcasm/humour- (how you see it!) thrown in for slight amusement!

taught me a few things or two  x

>So THATS who 'Corgi-Gal' is then

"Crazee Corgi-Gal" shurely? ;)

long story marmite but i was talking about a scrap with my duvet!didnt have the time to explain."lovely class of people",didnt notice there was a class divide on here..................

Well it seems it was my post from another subject that started this whole thing off. In all honesty I have read most of the almost 100 posts and Im lost.
I will be back in a few weeks time to let you all know how Keatah goes.
Yes she may have a bad a time she may die giving birth or she could lose the pups.
If this happens I wont hide away I will hold my head up and you can say we told you so.
On the other hand the most probable outcome is that I will not give a toss whats said becuase all will go great.
I know the risks you take. I lost a litter to a perfectly healthy 3 year old bitch.

>I will not give a toss

charming.

>you can say we told you so.

We're not that childish.