wildone, a peice of advice for you : when you ask a question on here, you have to be VERY careful how you word it as everyone will jump down your throat if they get the slightest opportunity!! I got the jist of what you were saying, even if everyone lese didnt, and I think going off to walk your dogs was a wise choice, theres more important things in life than a bit of paper and people who show less interest due to your not having said peice of paper, well......they are not the sort of people you want in your life anyway!! a genuine dog-lover/dog breeder will help someone who asks for help, regardless of their circumstances or status! ;-)

If you actually read the thread, you will see that the majority of the replies, initially, were helpful ..trying to explain something that has been asked of us :) If you think walking Sibes off lead is a good idea fair enough , however....we were asked WHY it is considered a bad thing and we have tried to explain the reasoning behind it.

A genuine dog lover will take on board the type of breed before offering advice ;)

Melody

Staffyhappy, I can't find any hint that people here look down on non-registered dogs. Wildone's posts give the impression (whether that was the intention or not, I don't know) that s/he wishes his/her dogs to be registered, but because one of them isn't, asks why registration is considered important. The reasons were given. At no time has anyone denigrated his/her dogs.
:)

do a search on crossbreeds, you will see lots of people on here bringing them down.

Deliberate crossbreeds are usually not condoned simply because you don't know what you will end up with :) If you read the posts you are talking about you will see what I mean.

Crossing a breed with another breed can produce lovely puppies that all have homes to go to ....OR it can produce butt ugly evil tempered pups that will end up in rescue .....*shrugs*

I HAVE read the posts, a lot of them were very dismissive of crossbreeds. ALL breeds originated with crossbreeds, take boxers for example, they havent been around that long, someone once decided to do a deliberate crossbreed and look what they got after their long, hard effort, a gorgeous breed which is as popular today as ever. no doubt the person who "created" this breed received critisism at the time, glad he didnt choose to listen! (sorry boxer people, I cant remember the mans name, can anyone help me out?)

ESPECIALLY staffie crosses!! ;-(

THANX, I ONLY WISH MORE PEOPLE WERE MORE OPEN MINDED STAFFHAPPY.

wildone, you are welcome, i always come to the defense of people if i feel they are getting a hard time for no good reason, or being "ganged up on" for saying the wrong thing. I also never fail to defend crossbredds, deliberate or accidental, they can be some of the best dogs in the world!! :-)

I very much let my dogs be dogs, doesn't mean I should stop brushing them though.

Jesse

I'm not stuck up at all you just leave snippets of information and change it all the time.

Jesse

Call it my age if you like but I still have no clue what the question is.

Having read all these posts through and again I am still ???????   Perhaps this is a WUM???  there seems to be a lot on here recently!! the mind boggles

I think the poster is considering breeding from their bitch, and saying she is unregistered, to avoid the endorsements on her KC registration - and is wondering how it will affect the future pups etc.

no i am not breeding my bitch who is kc, as i would like to do it properly, so i can register them if i did breed,which i dont as she is still a pup,

and yes i would use a kc stud ,thats if i cant get a kc for my male, i think all i needed to know was answered yesterday, and i wont breed as of course i would like pups to be healthy,but i think you should all see past the kc and you would find that there are some lovely dogs out their who are a credit to there breed even if they have'nt got a bit of paper saying they can do shows etc etc.At the end of the day they are still somebodys pride and joy and in must homes part of the family to enjoy.please dont write back your comments of how you dont know their past and if not kc there not worth the money because they are andthats all i'm saying i'm sorry i got your backs up but like many i love my dogs completly and like my child would give my last penny .

I have and race Non Ped Whippet's. My dog's have a pedigree but are not kg reg. The older of my 3 is a British Racing Campion and also a Scottish Champion. He is fit and very healthy and in the future he will be put up for stud to other non ped racing whippet's.
I can see where Wildone is coming from as Ive seen some bad comment's on other forum's about kc reg dog's and what folk call mongrels if not kc reg. I hope this makes sence to you's all

thanx robbie i'm glad someone can see where i am coming from, good luck with your dog.

The main question I would ask about a non KC registered (but apparently pedigree dog) is why is it not registered?  In your case you brought yours from Germany and may be able to register him.  However, if someone breeds a litter of pedigree dogs in this country, and has all the required health checks and so on, and a good pedigree, why would they choose not to register a litter? I think some of what you refer to as people looking down on non kc registered dogs is because it rightly or wrongly implies things have not been done correctly, although that can still be the case with a KC reg dog.

Fiona

Once a breeder sells pedigree dogs unregistered the puppies step outside the documented health schemes. We will Eye test an unregistered dog and tell the owner the result but we do not issue paperwork. The reason being that there is no registration number to put on the form and therefore no way of recording the result against the dog's record. Hip scoring it out altogether! No reg, no hip score!

Sorry, but to me, if a dog is not registered I would consider it non pedigree.

John

It depends on what you mean by pedigree.  A lot of people consider pedigree to mean a dog which is clearly a certain breed.  It's not a KC way of looking at it, but it is view of the 'man in the street'.

Thankfully, most breed rescues also use pedigree/breed as interchangeable words. 

<<It depends on what you mean by pedigree.>>

Obviously your definition of pedigree is a lot looser than my definition Bengidog! Either way, health testing can only be done with dogs with a DOCUMENTED pedigree and surely you accept that these are necessary for the well being of the breeds?

John