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By gaz
Date 01.10.03 15:17 UTC
Where the dogs psyco and stormer pit bull terriers as some articals surgest or Irish bull terriors as I thought they where.
By HELEN2003
Date 01.10.03 15:54 UTC
Hi
You are reading the wrong sort of things , or , being given the wrong information somewhere , or trying to cause trouble on the board !
Dogs that come from Psycho lines are infact Irish Staffs.
NOT Pit Bulls.
By gaz
Date 01.10.03 16:13 UTC
I think I read it in a telegraph artical. Maybe the article intentionally tried to suggest that psycho was a pit bull.
Here some of the text:
It's referring to a conversation the reporter had with a breeder.
He added that the word "Psycho" referred to a notorious pit bull type of
fighting dog of the 1980s from which his litter was descended. Psycho
defeated three other dogs in fights lasting for up to two hours before
meeting its match in a dog called Stormer. More than £6,000 of bets were
placed on the fight.
Just asking. I have the full artical if you want.
By lel
Date 01.10.03 17:19 UTC

Psycho was an ISBT and he did indeed fight .
Lel
By andy_s_80
Date 01.10.03 19:37 UTC
really?
that pretty is pretty much completely the opposite to everything ive been told......
as far as i was aware psycho was a strain of pitt bull ( i have also read that article from the telegraph on the net) but that isnt the only place ive come across it!!
By andy_s_80
Date 01.10.03 19:58 UTC
i stand corrected!!!!!!
just found some photos on here of psycho..... kara (my ISBT) is very similar in appearance etc.
not in temprement though fortunatly!!!!!!!!
By lel
Date 01.10.03 20:31 UTC

For those interested in the breed -
If you go to the link below you will find out some more information regarding Psycho
http://www.shakerkennels.fsnet.co.uk/psycho_history.htm
By dizzy
Date 01.10.03 21:11 UTC
By lel
Date 01.10.03 21:21 UTC

Thanks Dizzy- I will learn how to do Links yet :)
By mr murphy
Date 01.10.03 21:23 UTC
Who gives a toss what the papers say. At the time APBTs were banned the papers said that it was drug dealers and thugs that owned them. I may have a smoke now and then and I can certainly handle myself if I have to, but Im no drug dealer or thug. If you beleive what the press say without question then in my humble opinion there is something lacking in your life or your head.
mick
Better watch or Ill turn you all into druggys and beat you all up.
By andy_s_80
Date 01.10.03 21:29 UTC
the reason (especially in this case) that people end up taking what is said in the papers as fact is soley down to the lack of other information available.
Personally, if it wasnt for people like yourself and a few others that have a genuine interest and real experience with ISBT, APBT's etc all i would have had to formulate my opinions on would have been the anti articles etc that the net & newspapers are full of.
By lel
Date 01.10.03 21:30 UTC

There are quite a few dedicated sites now to pitbulls and the like and I dont mean the stupid idiot sites - I mean ones who do genuinely care for the breed .
try http://www.pitbullpress.com/ARTICLES/ARTICLES.HOME.html
Lel
By pottie
Date 01.10.03 21:44 UTC
Is that original link for a kennel that still breeds?
By dizzy
Date 01.10.03 21:45 UTC
By pottie
Date 01.10.03 21:47 UTC
I mean this link
http://www.shakerkennels.fsnet.co.uk
By mr murphy
Date 01.10.03 21:51 UTC
Hi pottie
Shaker kennels breed ISBTs not APBTs.
Mick
By kazz
Date 01.10.03 21:55 UTC
No one should breed Pit Bulls they are of course illegal. (sadly)
Karen
By pottie
Date 01.10.03 21:56 UTC
I just wondered cos his favourite links section are to some sites that appear to promote the fighting of these dogs!
By Dawn B
Date 02.10.03 05:54 UTC

Dog fighting is still perfectly legal in many countries, although I would never take part in such activities, I must admit to being facinated by the dedication to training etc... these people do in order for their dogs to fight, only to get them chewed up! Must be something missing?
Dawn.
By gaz
Date 02.10.03 11:52 UTC
Are there any weight pulling compertitions in the UK? Like the organised one in the USA?
By HELEN2003
Date 02.10.03 14:52 UTC
Hi Gaz
There are wieght pulling competions held in the uk , i will try and find out for you later when and where the nearest one is in the uk.
HELEN
By mr murphy
Date 02.10.03 15:36 UTC
The Ed Reid shows cater for this type of thing. Web site is. http://www.ed-reid.co.uk
Cant do links but thats the address. Mick.
By dizzy
Date 02.10.03 18:06 UTC
By HappyStaffy
Date 02.10.03 15:41 UTC
Pottie/Gaz/Andy s 80...these are good starting points to research the history of the dogs, just type into the browser...
1. Turnstyle Staffords
2. Holmes-staffords
Ged
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