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Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / Pug breeding
- By willowtree [gb] Date 14.01.15 12:21 UTC
I have 2 two year old Pug bitches I mated one with another Pug and she needed an emergency c.section I'll not let her breed again.
What i'm asking is, is my Pug more likely to self whelp if mated with a Chihuahua?
- By Brainless [gb] Date 14.01.15 12:23 UTC Upvotes 1
No
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 14.01.15 12:44 UTC
No; chihuahuas are another breed that often need c-sections, so it won't reduce the risk. Your best bet is to look for a pug stud dog from a line of self-whelpers - they are about.
- By Merlot [gb] Date 14.01.15 12:53 UTC Upvotes 3
No, and why would you want to mate her with a Chi ?
If you care about your bitch and any resulting pups then it is important you have your pug checked for  "Hemivertebrae"
The world is full of cute little cross bred puppies who need good homes. Do take the time to think this through. Please don't just mate her for the sake of it. Its not fair on her to put her life at risk.
Everyone who breeds a litter should have a very good reason for doing it and in reality the only reason is to improve on the breed in general by producing happy healthy  pups to carry the breed forward.
I am sure you think the world of your dogs and love them so please don't breed for your sake.
Disasters can and do happen many a fit bitch has died during whelping or a C-sect. Its a huge risk to take with a loving family pet.
Aileen
- By Rubysmum Date 14.01.15 13:10 UTC

>Your best bet is to look for a pug stud dog from a line of self-whelpers - they are about.


Choosing a stud from a self whelping line is not likely to make a difference to a bitch he matesh. He might Possibly pass on genes for easy whelping to his offspring so a self whelping line could be developed but wont prevent a bitch from needing a cesar. 
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 14.01.15 14:17 UTC Upvotes 1
No.   This is no reason to mix-breed (if there is one?) in any case.   You'd do far better to try to find a bitch from a known free-whelping line.
- By LouiseDDB [gb] Date 15.01.15 09:24 UTC
A pup side on in the horn could cause a c section. A breed not known for them could still have the need to have one. Luck of the draw I suppose. My pugs are at least 3 generations self whelping bitch side. If your even contemplating cross breeding I don't believe you should be breeding at all.

Hemivertebra patellas PDE are to name but a few of the widely available tests for pugs.
- By puggy [gb] Date 15.01.15 09:46 UTC Upvotes 2
Why would you want too breed a pug with a chihuahua ?
A better bet would be too have your pugs spayed and keep them as the wonderful pets that they are.
And leave breeding to the experts.
I don't breed pugs I just rescue them.
- By Lynneb [gb] Date 15.01.15 21:48 UTC Upvotes 2
Words fail me......better than saying what I want to say.
- By MsTemeraire Date 16.01.15 00:08 UTC Upvotes 1

> I have 2 two year old Pug bitches I mated one with another Pug and she needed an emergency c.section I'll not let her breed again. What i'm asking is, is my Pug more likely to self whelp if mated with a Chihuahua?


Sorry, no. There are lots of reasons why bitches need C-sections, and I am guessing you think it's all down to the sire....?
There's far too much involved for it to be that simple.
Maybe your Pug bitch's hips are too tight to allow pups through.
Maybe she doesn't produce enough hormones to carry through with a full birth, which isn't uncommon (Google "inertia").
Maybe she has a deformity of her internal breeding organs that will only be revealed when she eventually gets spayed.

I can only think that you feel breeding her to a smaller dog might "cure" this.... And wow - it doesn't sound like you really care about her welfare - just what she can do for you? How can you be so cold-hearted?
- By JeanSW Date 16.01.15 00:36 UTC Upvotes 2

>Choosing a stud from a self whelping line is not likely to make a difference to a bitch he matesh. He might Possibly pass on genes for easy whelping to his offspring so a self whelping line could be developed but wont prevent a bitch from needing a cesar. 


Very, very true, and well said.  And I have spent many years perfecting my self whelping line, this with plenty of canine knowledge (and common sense.)   It is unbelievable how often people have asked to use my stud dog - because they think that he will ensure that he produces small puppies for their bitch.  I have tried to explain why this is not the case, and then people say that they are happy to try!!!  They think I'm spiteful when I still refuse.  It's when they remind me that someone else will be happy to take their money that I realise they really have no breeding knowledge.  But I can't have their bitches death on my conscience.
- By willowtree [gb] Date 16.01.15 01:14 UTC
Thank you so much for that info, she is getting spayed in 2 weeks time
- By willowtree [gb] Date 16.01.15 01:19 UTC
what a sad vindictive person you are I feel sorry for you
- By Lokis mum [gb] Date 16.01.15 15:31 UTC Upvotes 2
Sorry Willowtree - but you are the thoughtless owner who has put her (beloved?) pug through a pregnancy without the knowledge that you should have had before embarking on this reckless course of action.   Why did you do it?   And why are you asking questions about breeding with a chi?   All I can think is that sadly, you are one greedy breeder - and I don't feel the least bit sorry for the fact that you now have to pay out for a c-section.   I feel sorry for your girl.
- By Lokis mum [gb] Date 16.01.15 15:35 UTC

> Very, very true, and well said.  And I have spent many years perfecting my self whelping line, this with plenty of canine knowledge (and common sense.)   It is unbelievable how often people have asked to use my stud dog - because they think that he will ensure that he produces small puppies for their bitch.  I have tried to explain why this is not the case, and then people say that they are happy to try!!!  They think I'm spiteful when I still refuse.  It's when they remind me that someone else will be happy to take their money that I realise they really have no breeding knowledge.  But I can't have their bitches death on my conscience.


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Well said, JeanSW
- By biffsmum [gb] Date 16.01.15 16:02 UTC Upvotes 2
Again words fail me....

Why ask a question and then because you don't like the replies you chose to be rude.

The people on this forum are a group with good, honest, knowledgeable information who are willing to share their experience on here.

If you own Pugs and wish to breed, why on earth wouldn't you want to breed pure pug puppies??
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