had a lady come yesterday with her two children to visit the pups and she said i am so please you allowed the children to come, Why?
they had been to see another litter and the breeder would not let them see the puppys outside there plastic pen had to look through the window at them, not allowed to hold them, did not see the mum, and the children where not allowed to look at the pups they had to be over 22.

I could not believe it as both her daughters where on the floor in my house playing with the pups and their mum having a great time playing tug and chew and kissing and cuddling them etc they where at our house for over an hour and half and went away very happy with their choice of puppy.

why would a breeder not want to let people pick and play with the pups, not see the mother , etc, the lady thinks they may have had a lucky escape from a puppy farmer as they where not i a house in more of a barn type building.

I agree it sounds like they had a lucky escape. For me it's very important that any children in the family come to visit, I just make sure they're sitting on the floor when they handle the pups. In one case, where 3 generations of the family lived together, the grandchildren came to see the pups as well.

I had a family come to visit before the pups were born and as a result of the children's reaction to my older dogs, the parents decided to wait another year or two before getting a puppy.

they wouldn't let the children see the dogs/pups but they wanted to sell them a pup????  It's important everyone meets and interacts with adults and pups to check everyone is happy and responsible enough...

the only family I haven't let have a pup is the one who let their small child try and drag my older - and child nervous - border collie around the patio by his collar!  Bless him, he just lay there letting it happen and I rescued him very quickly.. BUT the parents did nothing, so I suggested the time wasn't right for them to have a pup.  Other families with children have had a pup and no problems - but I wouldn't have known what this family were like if I hadn't let them in with the dogs....

Over 22??? I know I was a bit nervous when a family with children around 8 or 9 came to see my litter some years back, I didn't grow up with dogs so I am not used to children/dog interactions. I knew to ask them to sit on the floor but even then I was silently worrying when the puppies were picked up and held in laps and were being wriggly, just in case they fell even from a few inches off the floor! But over 22 is just a complete overreaction, how silly!

Makes no sense does it?

My children (in general) needing to be over 7yrs for a pup rule, sounds great next to needs to be 22yrs. :-D

But, to me their ruling is just ridiculous as they are not refusing to sell a pup to people with younger/older children are they? They would have still sold the pup to the family so why do they not wish to see how the children interact with the pups to gage whether they were suitable or not?

If a breeder wishes to make a ruling that they will not sell any pups or allow anyone to view them under 22yrs that is their prerogative with all the impulse buys and mistreatments of puppies/dogs I have no problem with a breeder making a stance like that it is up to them who they wish to sell their pups to. However, they were not doing that........ it was just a socialising rule, not that they would not home to people with under 22 year olds. **scratching head**

Maybe they think people under 22 years carry a deadly disease :-D The under 22's would be handling the pups the minute they got them home.

Anyhow, regardless of all that nonsense not seeing the dam is a walk away without a doubt, so glad they found you. :-)

actually I read it as a mistake and it should be 12, as 22 is such a weird age... after all they're not children (allegedly) by then! I may be wrong though..

>that is their prerogative with all the impulse buys and mistreatments of puppies/dogs I have no problem with a breeder making a stance like that

Like me avoiding the handbag brigade and only allowing chi pups go to people over 50?  :-)  :-)  :-)

I have come across this before. Some breeders do not like their pups to go to homes with children.

I remember being at Thame show many many years back with my dogs and young children, (children all between 6 years and 10 years old). A lady walked past me and my little family of dogs and kids, and said to me, People like you should not be allowed to have a dog. So I politely asked why? She replied that I had kids and she would never sell to anybody who had children! My eldest was into Junior Handling when it first started and the younger two liked to watch, so would sit quietly at the ringside with me and with the dogs. They were never rowdy nor did they go off on their own to cause trouble at shows.

Good lord, how rude Polly!! I am nervous of selling to families with children purely because I have a toy breed and I didn't grow up with dogs, so I'm not used to the interaction. But if you were sitting there with your children joining in the showing or watching quietly, I can't believe how rude that woman was!!!

I thought it was rude at the time, and my eldest was upset about it, she asked me after why we could not have a dog like the woman said. I just told her that it was just somebody being silly. The woman had a large breed as well. I could understand it if she had got something like an Italian Greyhound. Actually my eldest used to go to shows a lot with out me, and used to handle other peoples dogs one of which was an Italian Greyhound.

One thing that made me really like Nando's breeder was that she let Niamh (my niece) meet all her dogs, and was more than happy to do so, probably so that she could watch Niamh to see how sensible she was around dogs!

You wouldn't believe my 3-year-old niece was on the middle of the floor with three rather large German Shepherds rolling around with them! When we came to pick Nando up, Niamh wouldn't believe me that he was our pup "He's not a puppy, he's huge"

I remember having a party for work colleagues and one saying he & his family would only come if my dog (6 month old GSD pup) was 'put away' as his son was frightened.  I explained that I wouldn't put her away, she was very good with children and it would be a good experience for him to come, he didn't have to touch the dog or anything :-(  Anyway they didn't come but another colleague brought his young son and after his initial comment that she couldn't be a puppy as she was huge! they played in the garden together for the whole time (under supervision) and they both had a great time.  Sad for the boy whose parents I'm afraid very much pandered to and made the fear into a phobia and fantastic for the other child and for Kim who no way could I have shut away and let her miss out on all that socialisation!  She was very much a 'princess' and was never shut away anywhere...