I was wondering anyone who has used this as to what outcomes you had with it.

I have read up about it but it can be used for a number of things and while I appreciate every dog is different there is no point spending a lot of money on this(because its not cheap) if people feel there is no real benefits to using it.

So anyone who has used it can you tell me why you tried it/use it and your experiences from it please.

If you don't wish to place it on the forum then please PM me..

Thanks x

Hi there I have just started using it for my cocker spaniel who is quite nervous in new situations and sometimes forgets to stop barking when people come into the house or come to the door.
I have to say that I have noticed a slight improvement in her and she does seem more relaxed its hasn't had any side effects on her but speaking to the vets where I work it can take up to a month to get fully into their systems before you start seeing real results.
Would recommend buying it online as alot cheaper than in vets. Another product I have used with success with settling in new puppies and for when dogs are staying with us are dap collars and plug ins, again cheaper online to get

I have used it for Soli (9yr old FA dobe) with quite a bit of success - it didn't stop her FA, of course, but it helped her a lot with her stress levels which are pretty much always high.

The main difference I noticed was that her barking was much, much less - she barks at everything, sometimes just for fun but more often out of worry, especially out in the garden.  It dropped a lot, and I only really realised by how much when I ran out of zylkene and she started up again.

She's not on it at the mo but I'll be stocking up again soon - she's currently on valerian compound from holland & barrett which seems to be helping a lot, but the zylkene was better.

I have not used it personally, but have a friend who does behavioural consults at work (veterinary practice). She has had great results and really rates the product. Her successes have mainly been on SA and dogs with phobias, and it has always been used in used in conjuction with the owners following a structured desensitisation programme.

I used it with my burmese who was having difficulties adapting to a new moggy despite being bought with another cat. Cant say I noticed any really difference I am afraid. Same with the dap defuser I tried that too for the same reason

I've used it on my Roxie, Malinois bitch who had a scare at a show and then for a long time would not let a judge (or indeed anyone) go over her. We put her on Zylkene and took her to shows without going in the ring, and we noticed she was fine with people outside the ring. Anyone could walk up to her and stroke her, and she would even walk up to people and ask for treats. We then stopped the Zylkene (it is expensive!) and at the next show a woman who she had happily met at several other shows walked up to her to say hello and she backed away and wouldn't be touched. So for her it clearly had made a difference to her confidence.

Through work we've had a lot of people try it, and they all report success of some degree. Some have only noticed a small improvement and others say it's nothing short of miraculous! It certainly won't do any harm, and is well worth a try.

Very true jeangenie. Interesting to compare results with rescue remedy 

Sue I have had very good results with Serene-UM. Used it on one of my oldies that used to have to be sedated when she went I'n o have her claws clipped. She used to go into a major panic at the sight of the clippers but was fine otherwise even with fireworks. Started her on them a few days before and she was fine. I used it on Betty recently after her blockage experience and it really helped her settle down after all the upset she had been through :-)

Used it on my pug for 6 months with no change, but heard in other cases that it works well, especially in cats. I believe royal canin have a new food "calm" that has in it it?

Forgot to say, from what I've gathered since I've had her, a fair proportion of Soli's fear/stress/nervousness is hereditary so that dampens the effect I think.  She is SUCH a stressy dog that I didn't expect a miracle but that would maybe mean it could work better if the stress isn't so constantly high?

I have used zyklene with one of my bitches who was having a phantom the mood swings were a total personality change. I put her on the product with excellent results calmed her down and chilled her out considerably, would recommend it .

I have also heard that 'stroppy bitch' is good although I havent used it myself.http://www.csjk9.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=63&idcategory=3

Thanks everyone for your responses, its been interesting reading what you've all got to say on it.

Never heard of Serene-UM before Lucy so been having a read up of that too..

Did you try Zylkene Suejaw?

I'm just back from the vets with Mr Beastly who has been given Zylkene to try as his behaviour has been changing over the past few months and he is much more anxious than he used to be - beastly and anxious are not a good combination!

I done a search online in general and on here and am encouraged so far, in fact encouraged enough to risk my fingers shoving two of the huge capsules down his throat :-) It does say the powder is palatable and can be sprinkled on food, but he won't be fed again till 1am and I want to try it NOW! :-)

Looking online I think my vets are very competitive with the price, Tchi is getting 2 of the 450mg a day, 10 day trial for £25. Fingers crossed it helps the old boy relax a bit :-)

Let us know the outcome Jane. :) I'm just about to order some myself today.

One of my puppy owners has started using it on her 8 month old WC Spaniel who is a handfull for her with his constant whinging and whining on the advice of her vet, she has noticed a big difference and as a result has a much better relationship with her dog now.

I'm resurrecting this thread as my beastie boy has just been put on these. Long story, but he's a jekkyl and hyde dog - a complete puppy and joy to own inside the house (he's now 3), but you never know quite what dog you have when you go out. We've been down the behaviourist route, and he's done his Bronze GC twice, but they never seem to want him back for silver.

I was reading one of the threads last week re Hypothyroidism (sp), and when i read the article which was linked, it was like reading about the hooligan. He turned at 7 months, which we put down to him feeling better in himself (we rescued him and he wasn't a pretty sight when we took him in at 5 months). So I booked him into the vets on monday, and he behaved impeccibly - they were expecting a snarling, lunging Rottie, not this happy thing that gave his paw for treats. Bloods have been taken, and we should get the results on Friday. They're going to test for everything - although not sure what everything is. I'm waffling, but getting to the point now, the vet sent us away with 2 weeks worth of Zyklene, and he had his 1st tab monday night, and another last night - it's like living with a different dog. Completely chilled out, he didn't bat an eyelid at the hoodies riding a motorbike over the park this morning at 5am.

Is this just a complete coincidence, or could it actually have an effect this quickly? We had previously tried DAP diffusers and collars but they never seemed to make any real difference. I'm trying not to get too excited, although it would be wonderful if just by giving him a tablet or 2(either this or for the thryoid), we can extend the personality of the inside dog, to the outside world.

no effect on my 2 mad schnauzers :0(

I spoke to soon, the beastie part of him has returned. Obviously just a coincidence, but we'll persevere with the course to see whether there are any changes longer term.

It never worked on the dog I purchased it for. The reason being in house fighting and it made no difference to the problem dog i'm afraid. :-(

It really helped Soli in terms of her general stress levels (which are higher than most dogs' most of the time), she barked less which was lovely!  It did have a knock-on effect with her aggression but not huge, it didn't stop it but it meant that because her stress levels generally were lower, the increase in trigger situations wasn't sending her stress as high as it did before (if that makes sense).

I have though had similar results with valerian liquid (not with the skullcap & val tablets, just the stronger liquid - I get it from holland & barrett).

I've had several clients try it out but none seemed to gain any major benefit from it. But I must say I think sone vets are prescribing it as a cure all and inappropriately as well. I have had better results with calm aid in several cases that had issues outside but I do think it works well SA cases rather than anything else. Maybe your beatie boywas quiet for first nigt due to trip to vet and adrenalin drop etc.

Out of interest do you have several dogs and is your boy the youngest in the house?

>> Out of interest do you have several dogs and is your boy the youngest in the house

Yes I have 3 and he is the youngest. We have no issues with any of them in the house - so no worries on that front.

We should get the blood results today, which should rule out (or in) Thyroid issues, we're then back to Behaviourist referral. We are able to manage him, it would just be nice to able to take him out without having to have eyes in the back of the head, or 2nd guess him all the time.

>> It did have a knock-on effect with her aggression but not huge, it didn't stop it but it meant that because her stress levels generally were lower, the increase in trigger situations wasn't sending her stress as high as it did before (if that makes sense).

Makes perfect sense. He's more likely to be reactive, if he's already reacted to something (eg leaving the house and coming face to face with a cat/person etc). So if he's starting off from a more "chilled" position he's less likely to react, and if he does it's not as high a reaction.

I ask as I find that in multi doghouseholds it usually the younger dog that has the issues whatever they are. To do with having the ability to practise behaviours I think. Although so far my youngest dog is not showing any aggressive tendencies although my third did when he was youngest. Yet as far as I could tell he never practised any aggressive behaviours with the bitches they wouldn't tolerate it. But gottobe something in it somewhere.

worked for me and my girl when she has had a phantom..really calmed her down and chilled her out within 2 days.. but she doesnt have behavioural issues normally ..also make sure you are on the right strength.