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Topic Dog Boards / General / New RSPCA policy
- By RozzieRetriever Date 14.05.16 10:57 UTC Upvotes 2
On the BBC website is a piece describing how, under new leadership, the RSPCA will be concentrating on the illegal puppy trade instead of pursuing expensive private prosecutions. Let's hope they achieve something.
- By groveclydpoint [gb] Date 14.05.16 11:31 UTC Upvotes 1
yes and stoping hunting proscuts will be intresting as rspca gave anti hunt people millions of pounds to stop fox hunting
the were behind hunting ban so hope they do keep their noses out of hunting and conantrate on puppy trade and real anaiaml cruety and stop following hints sticking their nose in
it was in daily mail online too
- By JoStockbridge [gb] Date 14.05.16 13:03 UTC
Although that will also effect good hobby breeders too as last I read the way the rspca want to deal with the illegal puppy trade was wanting everyone to have to get a lience to sell a puppy.
So anyone who breeds here would also need this puppy selling lience. So for the small scale breeders allready paying out for health testing and all the stuff they do will also have to pay for the puppy seller lience even if they breed the one litter a year (or less). So yet another cost that will have no impact on the high volume breeders and dealers.

http://campaigns.rspca.org.uk/ea-action/action?ea.client.id=143&ea.campaign.id=41233#dealersact
- By Kenny Date 14.05.16 13:54 UTC
You can't beat the laws of unintended consequences can you.

Add a few more hoops and rules and the decent breeders will comply or stop.

Back in the real world of dodgy breeders who don't give a toss, happy days the legit supply has just gone down and we can sell more / charge more.

New microchip law ? what microchip law.
- By furriefriends Date 14.05.16 13:57 UTC
Some councils I belive  one is Durham are already insisting that anyine who breeds even one litter must be licensed .The terms and conditions are very specific and leave you little of any choice as to how you breed.
- By furriefriends Date 14.05.16 13:58 UTC
Some councils I belive  one is Durham are already insisting that anyine who breeds even one litter must be licensed .The terms and conditions are very specific and leave you little of.no choices fpr.the breeder
- By Hethspaw [gb] Date 14.05.16 14:09 UTC
JS
Although that will also effect good hobby breeders too

HP
Yes, nail on the head so to speak......it's just another fundraising ploy by the RSPCA to try get the decline in giving to charities (of any kind) by a general much more savvy public than the public used to be to charities.

The RSPCA and the more specific dog charities are experts in running the charities & paying extraordinary salaries to the top end of its employees, it's the ultimate satire to think of them as a bunch of benign well meaning sentimental gentle folk, sitting around all day thinking of good things to come for dogs is more likened to the thought patterns of the insane.

Best thought of as a bunch of intelligent, well organized con merchants making sure No 1 comes first & to hell with anything else.
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- By Hethspaw [gb] Date 14.05.16 14:42 UTC
JS
the rspca want to deal with the illegal puppy trade was wanting everyone to have to get a lience to sell a puppy.

HP
Do you know if RSPCA is in the process of approaching government to make itself the sole licensing authority??
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- By biffsmum [gb] Date 14.05.16 14:44 UTC
This is the link about Durham. http://www.durham.gov.uk/article/2107/Dog-breeding-licence,  I suppose it's whether you make a profit or not.
- By biffsmum [gb] Date 14.05.16 14:46 UTC
I was told a few years ago by someone that is a journalist writing for the animal/pet press that the RSPCA has been pressing to be awarded the task of holding a dog register in the UK...
- By JoStockbridge [gb] Date 14.05.16 22:42 UTC

> Do you know if RSPCA is in the process of approaching government to make itself the sole licensing authority??


who knows, but the puppy sellers lience is one of their current campains. along with the lience they want a database of puppy sellers payed for by lience fees. Although I beleave DEFRA is looking into them at the moment due to their proscutions.
would them running a lience like this not be an issue with their charity status? which they would not want to lose.
- By Hethspaw [gb] Date 15.05.16 04:08 UTC
JS
who knows, but the puppy sellers lience is one of their current campains. along with the lience they want a database of puppy sellers payed for by lience fees. Although I beleave DEFRA is looking into them at the moment due to their proscutions.

HP
DEFRA maybe looking into it but DEFRA will not, IMO, even bother looking into licensing >>of individual, ordinary breeders<<, what DEFRA would look into >if they think it's neccesary< is selling pups from commercial premises or some kind of third party selling set up, BUT, I think I remember DEFRA doing something along those lines in the Animal Welfare Act 2007 it was just covering shops & premises which could be defined in law as commercial premises etc....DEFRA will not bother looking at laws relating to individual folks breeding dogs, what they might (or might not) look at is what number of breeding dogs can an individual own & breed from before they come under 'commercial breeder'.

JS
would them running a lience like this not be an issue with their charity status? which they would not want to lose.

HP
Awww, the charity laws are one of the most complicated parts of the British legal system, even more so & especially when it comes to 'trusts', the RSPCA won't loose it's charity status, they know the legal routes, that is what their profession is, 'charity specialists'....the animal thing (all animals) is just a by product of running a charity, same with all charities.
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- By MamaBas [gb] Date 15.05.16 09:26 UTC Upvotes 1
With that organisation, I'd settle for them doing what their original mandate was (Prevention of Cruelty to Animals) instead of all the politicking!!
- By Hethspaw [gb] Date 15.05.16 10:46 UTC Upvotes 1
I'd settle for them doing what their original mandate was

They do............when they can persuade a TV crew to film it:sad:
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- By RozzieRetriever Date 15.05.16 11:04 UTC
For all the hierarchy of the RSPCA get criticised, I do have sympathy with the ordinary neighbourhood officers (not sure if that's what their title is). Many years ago a friend and her husband worked for the RSPCA and had to deal with a huge amount of badger baiting on their patch. The 'baddies' found out where they lived, and subjected them to what can only be called a campaign of intimidation to the extent they were forced to move house to another part of the country altogether. Can't be easy dealing with some of the people they encounter.
- By groveclydpoint [gb] Date 15.05.16 12:29 UTC
i think they are called inspectors but that may just be sspca in scotland angain i may br wrong
- By MamaBas [gb] Date 16.05.16 08:43 UTC

> They do............when they can persuade a TV crew to film it<img alt=":sad:" .


You are singing my tune with that!!
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