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Topic Dog Boards / Health / puppy's poo
- By emma28 [gb] Date 15.12.08 23:48 UTC
Hi im new here and also new to owning a puppy!

My labrador poppy the puppy! is nearly 5 months old and i have been feeding her on Bakers complete puppy.  The problem is ever since i got her at 10 weeks old she has had loose poo's and they are light in colour, yesterday my dad took her out for a walk for me and said her poo was nearly white and im wondering if its down to the food im feeding her? when i asked the vet about feeding her Bakers complete he said it was fine and that her poo was down to the change over in food, i gradually had to change her food over from Gilpa(what the breeder was feeding her)to the Bakers, i did want to carry on feeding her on Gilpa but could'nt find anywhere that sold it locally.  Also she keeps pooing on the kitchen floor at night which i thought she would have stopped doing by now, i have tried ignoring what she has done and on the odd night where she has'nt done it, me and my daughter have really praised her but this has'nt worked nor has telling her off for it.  And she also has terrible wind!, but other than this she is fine but a little bit naughty!!

I dont know what to and im really worried about her, i would be so greatful for any advice anyone could give me

Thanks
Emma
- By Stormy84 [gb] Date 16.12.08 10:32 UTC
Hi Emma. It sounds as though you have changed her food over too fast. Is there any way you can get hold of a some of her old food (Gilpa) and get her back on that- assuming she was doing well on it? Once you have got her tummy back to normal I would look into a better quality food than Bakers. There are plenty of reasonably priced foods that people on here recommend- Arden Grange, CSJ, JWB etc etc. A dog at the park I go to is on Bakers and his poo is also grey/white- I don't know why but I would assume it's due to all the fillers/rubbish in it and lack of real meat! Your main focus now is getting her tummy back to normal which I think is most easily achieved by returning to her old food, then the slow process of moving over to something you can get hold of, but that is also of good quality. Good luck.
- By mastifflover Date 16.12.08 11:17 UTC
Have you spoken to the vet about your puppies pale pooh?

I would be inclinded to get her checked over by the vet, it's also worth taking in a stool sample with you. It could be that she has eaten something she shouldn't have, hence the reason for the change in colour, but Bakers shouldn't make her pooh white, unless it doesn't agree with her. She also may have an upset stomach for one reason or another, which would add to the problem of her poping in the house (she is still young and this may be she simply hasn't learnt/can't hold it all night).
When your worried about your dog, the best bet is the vet :)
- By Teri Date 16.12.08 11:29 UTC
I'd take a faecal sample in for analysis - there are so many colours added to Bakers that IMO white/chalky motions would be unlikely. 

FTR, no dog should have continued loose or sloppy bowels, there's always a reason and if 24 hours of fasting followed by a few days of bland diet doesn't sort it out, then it should be investigated by your vet and addressed otherwise you are storing up future GI problems for your pet.

regards, Teri
- By perrodeagua [gb] Date 16.12.08 11:35 UTC
Have you been giving her any bones as this is what usually causes white poo?
- By Teri Date 16.12.08 11:38 UTC
I thought of that too but IME giving bones (other than RMBs) means white and very hard stools rather than sloppy .....
- By lunamoona [gb] Date 16.12.08 11:43 UTC
I once tried my dogs on Bakers and the end result was a rather unpleasant greyish green colour almost like a pale khaki. The consistancy was 'sticky' and the smell horrendous.

White poo probably does need a trip to the vet but I wouldn't be suprised if it was just the food.
- By mastifflover Date 16.12.08 12:11 UTC

> White poo probably does need a trip to the vet but I wouldn't be suprised if it was just the food.


It doesn't appear that the OP has just changed foods, she's said she couldn't get the food advised from the breeder so switched to Bakers, the pup is now 5 months old, so that suggests pup has been eating Bakers for some time.
I can see a sudden change of food having drastic effect on the motions (experienced that with my pup when he nicked oldies food :( ), but this doesn't appear to be linked with a sudden change in diet.

The sudden change in colour is too risky to put down to the food, without seeking the attention of a vet. Pale poop is not a good sign, white poop would have me very worried, unless I knew my dog had been eating bones.
- By lunamoona [gb] Date 16.12.08 12:23 UTC

>so that suggests pup has been eating Bakers for some time.


I think the OP said she had fed it from 10 weeks and that the poo has always been pale.  Maybe I worded it wrong but I did mean the vet was the best option :)

I just wouldn't be suprised if it was the food as my dogs were pale on it too :)
- By mastifflover Date 16.12.08 12:31 UTC

> I think the OP said she had fed it from 10 weeks and that the poo has always been pale.  Maybe I worded it wrong but I did mean the vet was the best option


You're right, you didn't word anything wrong :)
I was just trying to get the message across to the OP that it's best to go to the vet, it can be very tempting to put changes in poop down to food/dietry indescretion (which I've done myself), but if you are new to dogs and/or not aware of all of the possible underlying causes it can be a bad move.
- By lunamoona [gb] Date 16.12.08 12:45 UTC

>but if you are new to dogs and/or not aware of all of the possible underlying causes it can be a bad move.


Very true, I don't know where I would be if I didn't have all the great advice from Champdogs, still learning and still consider myself new to dogs after just 5 years :)
- By dogs a babe Date 16.12.08 19:23 UTC

> Also she keeps pooing on the kitchen floor at night which i thought she would have stopped doing by now, i have tried ignoring what she has done and on the odd night where she has'nt done it, me and my daughter have really praised her but this has'nt worked nor has telling her off for it.


With regards to the mess at night: by the time you see her again in the morning she will have no idea what the praise, or telling off is for.  She will just assume that sometimes you are pleased to see her and sometimes you are cross.

I'd suggest that you take her out at least twice before bedtime to make sure she is empty.  At 5 months she is still quite young and may not have complete control yet.  At that age our pup was on 3 meals a day and needed to go out within 15 minutes of his final meal then again at about 9pm then again before bed at 11 ish.  Do stay outside with her and make sure she gets lots of praise for going on command.  At this age prevention is so much easier than cure and if she is empty before bed she should last until 7am.  Although our pup took a while to get past the 6am wake up call and was 6 months before we could get to 7.15am :)

You might also try using a crate - it can encourage them to 'hold on' just a little bit longer and she can 'call you' to get up and let her out rather than getting up on her own.  I found that right up until 8 months or so mine would need to go outside as soon as he woke from a long sleep!

Food: mine both love Arden Grange Lamb & Rice - a great food at a good price which suits them very well.
- By emma28 [gb] Date 17.12.08 13:34 UTC
Hi
I just wanted to say thanks to everyone that gave me advice on poppy's poo
I have taken her to the vet and they are sure it is just down to the Bakers i have been feeding her, and they recommended Salters Puppy food, so we are giving that a try!
Thanks again
Emma
- By Teri Date 17.12.08 14:02 UTC
Thanks for the update Emma - hopefully she'll be on the up and up now :)  Be careful not to over-do the Christmas left overs with her!  Even dogs with the strongest constitutions can be given the squits with too much of too many good things at this time of year and her system will be a little delicate for a bit I should imagine so she'll be more sensitive than most.

best wishes,
Teri
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