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Would you pay £7.50 per for ringcraft training one evening a week?
One of my puppy buyers has found a class (less than the 110 mile round trip to the nearest established class) to train her toy breed pup. I thought it was a bit over the top for what would amout to about a half hour training.
Maybe all things considered it is the lesser of the two evils so to speak.
Joan
By sal
Date 14.12.08 20:37 UTC
crikey bit steep . i pay £2 for one pup or £3 for 2 pups

Our club only charges £1.50 a dog and that includes at least two one on one training with two of the 3 different trainers (if quite 3 goes) and then every one up for socilisation and control then more training!
£7.50 is abit excessive IMO

Blimey that's expensive!! I pay £3.50 (or is it £4 now?) and I thought that was expensive! My pet training club charges £10/year for membership and £1 on the night when you go.

i pay £10 for a yearly membership and £2 a night in central scotland.
By JeanSW
Date 14.12.08 23:11 UTC

Wow, have to admit that I didn't think our club is expensive, but now know it's damn cheap! The class lasts for an hour and a half. It costs £2.50 annual membership, and £1.30 per class. £2 if you take 2 dogs. We do have a raffle, which most of us support, and buy a couple of strips of tickets to help the club. And a lot of us do take a donation prize for the raffle, but happy to do so, it's a cheap night out even if you take a prize with you.
By malibu
Date 14.12.08 23:26 UTC
£7.50 a wee bit pricey.
I go to two different ones depending on work and one is £1 per dog but you have to be member which only costs a few quid, the other is £2.50 per dog but no membership needed.
Makes me realise mine is cheap, especially when taking different pups every week of the year almost.
Emma

Hi Joan
If our ringcraft charged that I would not be going as I could not afford it. Most of our are between £1 per dog and £1.50 which is very reasonable.

£2.50 here as the room went up recently. No way would I even think of spending £7.50 that's extortionate!!

I'd say it depends on the quality, nothing else. The great majority of ringcrafts I'd pay to NOT have to attend as they've ruined many a dog of sensitive breeds, but I do know of one that charges similar amounts where numbers are strictly limited and there is so much more help, knowledge and advice than at any other class. You'd get a lot more out of one class like that than from ten of the average. :)

Phoned the trainer and spoke to her, she was quite happy to answer all my questions and listen to any comments I made even laughed when I said I had been asking around about her, said not to worry as she had done the same about me to find out what kind of person I was and what my breeding was like. LOL Class numbers are limited and it is a training class for pups to achieve KC puppy foundation award and go onto KCGC awards. As they have a few people who are interested in showing or do show they are adding on some extra time to the class to give people ringcraft training. And it is as you say Marianne some are worth paying for.
As the population is and spread out over quite an area the class fills up quite quickly and you have to prebook and pay for your space.
Joan
ps Irene got your lead for you, see you tonight at training. j

I think thats extortionate!!! At my ringcraft, its 50p for children and 1.50 per person... dont pay for dogs which is a little daft since its a dog club!! But make more money from doing it per person i guess.
By kenya
Date 15.12.08 14:24 UTC

Hi Joan
We pay £1.50 per pup, that includes a cuppa and a biscuit too!!
Ive been slowly looking into ringcraft and classes in London cost anywhere from £5 a lesson to £100 for 8 weeks!!
By newf3
Date 15.12.08 16:43 UTC
i pay two pounds per dog.

I pay £1.50 per dog at training. If you take into consideration the cost of 100 mile round trip to the established class each week I suppose £75 for 10 weeks is the cheaper option.
By suejaw
Date 15.12.08 16:57 UTC
I don't think that its expensive if its the dog obedience and ring craft combined. I know with the KC obedience classes i have been paying £60 for 8 weeks and then ringcraft can be anything from £1.50 to £4.00 depending on which one i can make each week.
If i add this up being £60 for 8 weeks and then £1.50 each week it comes to £9p/w. So i would say with the two combined its a great saving, though my only worry would be it being too much for such a young dog all in one night.
joyous214 where about in london i got to north london ringcraft and there is £4 per dog its run on tuesday nights just off the a406 and a10 junction
> though my only worry would be it being too much for such a young dog all in one night.
This did cross my mind, how much time would you give a 4 month old papillon.
I have the three litter mates and we go to ringcraft for 1 and half hours of which each pup has maybe 10 mins actual training. The rest of the time is spent having treats and cuddles from other people and dogs and hearing how everyone else got on at the shows at the weekend.
Im South west London. Ive only found one place which said they dont take small dogs... everywhere else is about an hours drive from me. Really want to have a go.
By sam
Date 15.12.08 17:22 UTC

Ours is about 75p/dog and you get a cup of tea!!!
not sure how far away tottenham is from you but its a very good ringcraft run by a lovley man called terry murphy take take any size dogs, i personally have bullmastiffs, we also have ddb, shelties to mini pins attend the traning nights, cheap tea and coffe and biscuits.

Hey Denny, I must know you somewhat, I'm one of the ones with Cavaliers. Yes Terry's great isn't he! :-)

Would love to take you up on the offer to come to your ringcraft and would probably spend more time having tea and biscuits and chatting.
What a shame I'm about 450 miles to the North and the ringcraft for my friend is 3 hours driving further north than that. LOL
Thank you.
Joan
>would probably spend more time having tea and biscuits and chatting.
You won't be surprised this is more of a norm at our ringcraft and I'm sure many other's alike! Some people come without the dogs for one reason or another! (Sometimes it's to get away from dogs and kids leaving them with the OH for the evening! :-D )
By marion
Date 15.12.08 23:25 UTC
I agree £7.50 is a lot to pay, I run two classes at different venues, the cost of the hall varies so therefore the class fees vary too. I charge to cover hall fees and fuel costs, £3 & £4 for a two hour class. every handler gets lots of individual help and advice, I have many dog referred to me that have had problems with bad handling from judges or other 'trainers'. I also provide handouts on various aspects of showing etc. There are many very good classes around, but sadly there are also many that just ' go through the motions, with anyone at all going over the dogs with no knowledge of what they are doing, giving no help at all. I have visited many classes around the country and have seen 'trainers' who have been showing and/or owned a dog for just over 1 year!

My local class which is a KC registered one is £1.50 for one dog or £2 for two

We only pay £2.50 for one dog, although OH is self employed and works nights, I don't drive so it ends up costing £62.50 each time!!!! :(
Yes we are mad!!! :)
Paula
By Nova
Date 17.12.08 20:16 UTC

Depends on the cost of the venue, if they are paying £20 plus per hour and only take a limited number of dogs then it is bound to cost add to that the insurance and the cost of equipment and you will see £7.50 is not that over the top.
By lel
Date 17.12.08 23:57 UTC

None of the ones we've ever attended have cost more than a pound

How does a ringcraft manage to limit the amount of dogs? We need that secret with 30+ dogs turning up some nights (And no it doesn't put people off!!!!!)
By Nova
Date 18.12.08 19:22 UTC

To be honest, too many is a problem, I used to travel for three quaters of an hour and if I was lucky would get 2 runs up the mat before I had to leave/ In the end I stopped going as it was not time effective.

Try telling that to our people. Although We do have 3 trainers on the go at once which does help and in the summer can have 4/5 people training :)
By Nova
Date 18.12.08 20:56 UTC

Don't know for sure but think IQ we may be talking of the same training club, yes it is popular and it is busy. OK if you live near and come for a natter but to bring a pup for training, travelling for nearly 2 hours and only manage to go once under each of 2 trainers is not very helpful, teaches the pup about travelling in a car but that is about all. Sure lots of people are happy with it or it would not be so busy but I am not the only one to have given up because of the lack of actual training available unless you are very pushy.
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