Just a thought, but what about getting search and rescue dogs out?  Even if the police wont do it, maybe some local training clubs that train dogs for search and rescue may be able to help out.

Very much praying for their safe return. 

Prayers and positive thoughts.  Please let us know how you get on.

Just checked in on this post before I go to bed, I was hoping you would have some news.

My thoughts are with you, I hope you have some good news soon.
xxxxx

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I read this quickly this morning and was hoping against hope that they would be back now.
I have no idea wht you are going through, and sorry but I hope I never do.
I am not a praying person but I hope your children will come home very soon, and you are able to sleep welll again.
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>sex covering s.t.d's and pregnancy but it goes in one ear and out the other.
>I have long given up pretending that my daughter isn't active in these areas she has been exposed to this >prematurely,

I think the first thing i would do,would get her/them some protection.Maybe the implant type birth control or maybe depo provera?
I spoke with my daughters GP about both of the above and he said that they are fine for teens,as i was worried that it may affect their fertility/health etc. But ofcourse talk to your own doc,mine may have not given the right info.
I know it's a big thing,but the last thing any of you need right now is an unplanned pregnancy.

I had my fair share of run aways when i was a teen,and dabbled in everything you have mentioned your daughter has,it was simply more fun to be out and about with my friends,who were much older,then be stuck at home! I had a great upbringing,my parents couldn't have done anymore,so please don't blame yourself.I'm a big believer in nature over nurture.Of course it didn't help that my dad died when i was 13,and my mum was a complete pushover :(
But in the end i grew up,got married,had children and everything turned out ok.And i have apologised a million times to my mum for i put her through.

I'm sure your girls will turn up safe and sound.All you can do is love them,and let them know how much you love them and that you will always be there for them.Groundings and punishment etc probably wont do anything and will turn them further away.It's such a fine line,too much leniency and they will walk all over you,too much strictness will turn them away.
I wish i could give you a magic answer to make everything better,but I'm afraid all you can do is ride it out and offer as much info,support and guidance as you can, and know that they will eventually come good...When they grow some sense ;)

I'm not a praying person either,but i will say a little one for you and your girls tonight.

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I cannot even begin to imagine what you're going through but I will certainly pray that they return home to their loving parents a.s.a.p.  Bless you.  I have 4 children all different and my eldest a little shall we say 'different'.  I went through the guilt thing with him but no more, nature vs nurture and all that, he's 25 now and I think back on track or that's what he tells me and I do believe him. 

Is there any news yet Diane?x

Hi Diane, you may have already tried this, but do they have mobile phones with them?  Perhaps rather than phoning you could send them a text saying how much you're missing them, please could they come home and telling them they're not in any trouble.  They may be more inclined to read a text rather than answering a call.

Simone x

I hope that possible sighting was real, that they're safe and that today you'll get the answer to your prayers - your children home safe.

I'm hoping and praying Diane that no update as yet is because you're busy with your girls safe return.   You've got a lot of support here if you want or need it any time.

Blessings to you all,
Teri x

Oh Diane,
Im so sorry to read your post...I have no children myself and  can only imagine what you must be going through,but please dont blame yourself,you sound to me like you are a wonderfull, caring parent who does all they can for their children.
I hope and pray your girls will be home safe with you soon.
Thinking of you and sending ((((((BIG HUGS))))))
Take Care
Philly xx

Diane I have only just read this my heart goes out to you, I know how this tears you apart.

I too have been through this with my eldest. She was a little older than your girls, 17, but they were still the hardest 6 days of mine and my family's life. My daughter never came home to live but she did make contact and now 2 years on she has a good job with the police and we see her often and talk nearly everyday.

Please try not to blame yourself. I know how hard this is, I still feel guilty even though I know we weren't to blame. Some children insist on carving there own way in life how ever much you try to guide them. At the end of the day we do the best we can for our children and sometimes all you can do is love them and wait for them to realise how much.

I hope your girls are back home with you now, I will be thinking of you.

diane im so sorry to read this. really hope the girls come home soon.

i was a bit of a runaway teenager too! the worst time was when i was 14 and my dad said be home for 11pm but i didnt want to, so i just didnt go home! my dad found me at a drug dealers house about 20 miles away! dont ask how he found me? i havnt got a clue! when he found me he automaticaly thought that i had been taking drugs an doing allsorts,i hadnt! i wouldnt do that,even though i was sat there in a druggies house! your daughters might not be doing all that type of stuff! i use to say i did just to anoy my dad! i cant belive i did all them things to my dad he tryed his best for me my whole life,he knows how sorry i am now.

sending big ((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))) your way! xxxx

Social services are crap if your experiance of them is crap.
Dont pass comments on someone unless you have walked in their shoes, if you read her next posting she did try and temper her words. And a good hiding never hurt anyone a lot of people feel that kids out of control is a problem and a smack then and now is a good thing when all else fails. And as a abused child I can say that there is a hell of a difference between a smack and abuse!!

Any more news, have you got anywhere with the police?
I hope they come back soon, just hang in there.

So sorry to hear about this, it must be an absolute nightmare for you.  Any news?

Been reading the posts for this topic and i wasnt going to respond, because i didnt know what to say to you, i truly feel for you and the pain you must be going through as a mum. I have just got out of those terrible teens years myself! However i do not have children but can really imagine the pain of people you love doing that and it hurts with worry. You sound a lovely wonderful caring mum who would give anything for her children and that alone is enough to bring them back safely!

Is there any news yet? Ill be thinking of you all in hope of their safe return :)

> Social services are crap if your experiance of them is crap.
> Dont pass comments on someone unless you have walked in their shoes, if you read her next posting she did try and temper her words. And a good hiding never hurt anyone a lot of people feel that kids out of control is a problem and a smack then and now is a good thing when all else fails. And as a abused child I can say that there is a hell of a difference between a smack and abuse!!

FWIW whistler I replied when I read the post not when I had finished the whole thread and you have no idea about my life.  It is illegal to assualt a child and that includes smacking never mind 'a good hiding'.  There are many different types of abuse and if you know anything about attachment theory and physical abuse then you will be well aware of what I was saying in my last thread.  If you have no idea about these things then doing a bit of reading on them may well change your opinion that a good hiding is warranted.

I don't want this thread to become overshadowed by a difference in opinion between other posters but am sincerely hoping Diane that your daughters are back home safe and well.

Have good news,
                       Would of updated sooner but today has been hectic to say the least, Had a phone call just before 10pm last night to inform me both of the girls were with security at our local asda, they had been caught shoplifting alcohol! The security guard informed me that we could pick them up if we went down and paid for the goods, I told him to call the police as they had been reported missing and we were not going to allow them to go unpunished. I was really upset to hear that they had been stealing. So then we had to wait for the call from the police, around 12am ish they rang to ask us to go down to the station. We hung it out abit and got there about 12.50am. The police told us what had happened and that a friend of my girls had also been brought in with them. (she wasn't missing) They also told us that as they had not had any sleep in 24 hours and had been drinking they would not be fit for interviewing and would remain in custardy untill later that day, when we were available to go into the station and do the formal interview. We left the station around 1.30am after some formalities, and told the officers we would return around 10.30-11.00am after sorting out work. So much of today has been spent at Wembley police station, I am relieved there safe and now at home, of course were dissapointed, and we have (aswell as the police) told them the implications, especially later in life. They have had the fingerprints taken, D.N.A taken and a photograph aswell as a caution for there offence. There's probably bits I have missed out but my heads in a spin still.
We would like to say a huge thanks to each and everyone of you for your support, concerns and help,
your all stars and we are truly grateful.

Love Diane xx

I'm so glad you have them home now, and know that they're safe. There's nothing worse than not knowing.

Great news Diane - what a relief for you all!

I think you managed to keep very cool in the circumstances and hopefully this is a lesson well learned for the girls.  (I know you'll be rattled at them now - isn't that always our first reaction after fearing the worst we feel like strangling them ourselves LOL. )

Thank you so much for taking the time to let us know the outcome :)
Hoping things are back on track soon and that both of your daughters know just how lucky they are to have such a caring family.

best wishes Teri x

I'm glad to hear they've been found safe and well, even if it's not in the best of circumstances. I hope things settle down for you all soon.

Oh Diane.. I was so happy to read that, regardless of their shannanigans.. they are safe.. thats the most important thing...

I cant remember if you mentioned they (or one of them) had been in trouble with Police before.. but maybe this just might be the wake up call for them (I do hope so)...

You have been so strong through all of this Diane, I hope you get a chance to sit down.. and relax now..

> You have been so strong through all of this Diane, I hope you get a chance to sit down.. and relax now..

Diane, I cant say it better than kay! My sentiments exactly,
Delighted the Girls are safe.
*passes a well deserved BIG mug of hot chcoclate, whipped cream on top..sniffter of Baileys chucked in and heaps of Marshmallows bobbing on the top* :-D

Thank goodness they're both safe. 

Oh that is wonderful that they are back with you safe.

I have followed this but unsure what to say - it must have been horrendous not knowing where they were.

That's fantastic news Diane, I am so very glad for you. 

They are both very lucky to be home safe and to have parents who love them enough not to sheild them from the police and the consequences of their actions.  I'm sure it will be many years before they realise just what they have put you through. 

I have been avidly watching this thread but haven't posted as I couldn't find words to say.  I really feel for you but I am so glad that they are both home and safe regardless of what they did or didn't do during the time they weren't at home.  I am glad that you were able to post your feelings on here as it isn't easy to admit the mischief our children get up to to others.  Maybe when things settle down in a day or two, you will make the right decision as to where you go from here with them.  No-one has training to be a parent, unfortunately, and we all just do the best we can at the time.  Good Luck, I am sure things will work out alright for you all.  :)

What a relief, I can uncross my fingers now.

You must be emotionally drained, I hope that you can get through to your girls, but allow the dust to settle for a while.

Diane sleep well tonight........ so pleased they are well and safe once more.

Wonderful to hear that your girls are back home with you again :-)

I am just so pleased to hear that they are back safe and sound. Big hugs to all of you. I bet that deep down they are feeling very embarrassed, but it will probably come out as teenage truculence - it's all part of growing up.

Fantastic News :)
I am so pleased they are home safe.
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Lea :)

Sooo glad that they are safe and well :-)

Diane - I'm so happy for you all .....as the others have said, you should sleep well tonight!

And here's hoping that now you will get the help that you need to keep your girls close to you.

Love Margot x

Thank goodness they are home at last.

So very glad to hear that they are home.  Hopefully their antics while gone, will be a wake up call. 

oh Diane.....thats brill news im so happy they are back safe and well.
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So glad they are safe.  What a horrible thing to have to deal with - hope that things will work out for you all.  Good luck.

What a huge relief. I'm am so very happy they are home safe. :)

you poor thing, what a trauma.

thinking of you all

What a relief, hope all goes well for the future. One day at a time x

So glad to hear they are home and safe -and I think you acted BRILLIANTLY!

Well done for letting the Police get involved, and thank the stars that the girls are ok.

I think a lot of us can go to bed a lot easier tonight.

Glad to hear your girls are home Diana.

thats great news!

That is FANTASTIC news Diane :) :) :)

Glad they are home...little minxes.

Don't worry they are not teenagers for too long. We just have to grit our teeth and get through it.

Sleep Well tonight... gather your energy for the next escapade.! ! !

Diane terrific news :-D XX

>It is illegal to assualt a child and that includes smacking never mind 'a good hiding'

I don't want to disrupt this thread further either.But wouldn't half the parents in the world be in jail if smacking their children was illegal?
I know my kids got the odd smack on the bum,and i don't know any parents personally that have NEVER smacked their children.

Glad to hear they are both safe... Did you go bail them out or did you let them sit there for awhile? Sorry if I misread some place. Personally I would let them go to jail for awhile- should see if there is some sort of community service so many hours to work for the stealing they tried to do-of course through a judge- maybe that might help. If they are big on running away alot you can also see about a bracelette that only allows so far away from home and only under certain times for school and such for the period of community service maybe this will help them to appreciate what they have in hopes they don't get worse or run with the wrong crowd... Can you maybe get them into a sport or something to keep them busy something they would enjoy? My son has ADHD and I found taekwon-do to be a great help with him- my daughter on the other hand has a mouth that just doesn't quit grrr!!! 16 and no's it all. Since she has been working now she seems to have gotten better but yup still has to always have the last word...

I have a 16yr old I guess I am pretty strict with my children- my daughter got a cel for her b.day which isn't even a year old she has dropped it in water this time she dropped it in the dogs water dish and it don't work anymore..hmmm I said no cel no social life if I can't get a hold of her then she can't go out- maybe strict but she is pretty good with telling me where she goes and she is really missing her phone/texting lol going to hook up our old phone for her.

Best of luck with your girls (((hugs)))

So glad that they have been found and hopefully you not going to Asda and bailing them out might have given them the short sharp shock they needed when the police turned up and they had to spend the night in custody!!