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- By Lily Mc [gb] Date 21.11.08 18:47 UTC
Has anyone had their BRS through this month yet? Seems a bit late, have they forgotten me?

Tsk, I'm so impatient about these things.

M.
- By AliceC Date 21.11.08 18:48 UTC
M, I had mine through today, it was waiting for me when I got home. :-)
- By Lily Mc [gb] Date 21.11.08 18:49 UTC
Bah LOL. Fingers crossed for tomorrow.

M.
- By AliceC Date 21.11.08 18:53 UTC
Fingers crossed for you - if there's anything you are itching to know, I can dig out the info for you...I'm presuming you are pastoral too ?!
- By Lily Mc [gb] Date 21.11.08 18:55 UTC
Pastoral and Working for me (Working just through pure nosiness and a long Dane association). No, nothing I neeeeeed to know, I just want it LOL.

M.
- By Lily Mc [gb] Date 21.11.08 18:55 UTC
Oops, how rude of me, thanks for the offer though!

M.
- By AliceC Date 21.11.08 19:10 UTC
No worries - didn't think you were being rude either !! :-)
- By Boxacrazy [in] Date 21.11.08 20:39 UTC
Not got mine either :(

Are you at Reading DCS tomorrow?

We are outside in the cold, first in the ring, better wrap up warm eh :)
- By suepei [gb] Date 21.11.08 21:55 UTC
not got mine either, utility.
fingers crossed it comes tomorrow.
- By Lily Mc [gb] Date 21.11.08 21:59 UTC
Not at Reading, K. - thankfully, too cold!!

M.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 21.11.08 22:04 UTC
Depressing the total registrations for my breed for the first three quarters is 47 :(  the registrations are basically half of what they were when I got my first 16 years ago, and they were twice that in the 70's.
- By newf3 [gb] Date 22.11.08 16:22 UTC
could someone tell me the regs for newfoundlands plaese.
Just being nosey.
xx
- By Lily Mc [gb] Date 22.11.08 16:24 UTC
277 Newfs for the quarter. (Yes, mine came today, hooray!)

M.
- By newf3 [gb] Date 22.11.08 16:25 UTC
that seems a lot for one 1/4 doesnt it?
- By Lily Mc [gb] Date 22.11.08 16:29 UTC
That's as maybe, but that's what it says (having checked I had the right line LOL!). First three quarters of the year were 224, 273 and 277, so seems fairly in line.

M.
- By newf3 [gb] Date 22.11.08 16:31 UTC
that over 1000 this last year so only just above last year.
not so bad when you look at it that way.
- By perrodeagua [gb] Date 22.11.08 17:18 UTC
Can someone advise me of how many Spanish Water Dogs (gundog group)?
- By Brainless [gb] Date 22.11.08 19:13 UTC
You can find the stats here: http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/cgi-bin/item.cgi?id=1128&d=pg_dtl_art_news&h=242&f=0
- By Boxacrazy [in] Date 22.11.08 19:46 UTC
Well went and got frozen.....although won 3 classes (1 breed two av working)
got 2 2nds, 1 3rd...

But still cold now I don't think I've warmed up at all since I was there.

I got my BRS in todays post when I got back from the show :)
- By crinklecut [gb] Date 22.11.08 21:01 UTC
5 litters of SWD's totalling 22 puppies.
- By Blue Date 22.11.08 21:30 UTC
It's really interesting how some breeds when you look at the 10 year overview have doubled and tripled in numbers and others seriously in decline.
- By Polly [gb] Date 22.11.08 22:14 UTC
My BRS arrived today and I was shocked at the thickness of this edition! It seems to have doubled in size! I could not believe how many labradors had been bred, I actually rang a friend to make sure it was not a misprint! I love labs as well as my flatcoats, so I was shocked to see 13,067 puppies registered from 1,898 litters.
- By Blue Date 22.11.08 23:19 UTC
Crazy Polly it really is and rescues are bursting with them sadly.  
- By Polly [gb] Date 22.11.08 23:25 UTC
John was just online telling me that this was less than the same quarter last year!
- By Blue Date 22.11.08 23:28 UTC
Frightening really but I am glad if anything to see a reduction even if only tiny..
- By Boxacrazy [in] Date 23.11.08 08:15 UTC
WOW thats more than a years worth of Boxer puppy registrations.

For me I thought the pages didn't have so many Boxer registrations this quarter.
Perhaps people are slowing up because of the credit crunch?
- By Lily Mc [gb] Date 23.11.08 08:52 UTC
Busy quarter for Boxers actually, K. - 2,208 against 1,672 and 1,805 for the previous two. :-( And that's just the registered ones, of course.

M.
- By Boxacrazy [in] Date 23.11.08 11:57 UTC
Normal years registrations is 10-12K Boxer pups I think So the numbers may be down slightly....
or perhaps that's just wishful thinking?
- By Lily Mc [gb] Date 23.11.08 11:59 UTC
Probably to do with docking?

M.
- By Boxacrazy [in] Date 23.11.08 12:07 UTC
Well some say that's the case....but also alot of people having trouble selling their pups too
so it could well be true that people don't want Boxers with tails...too nutty without them and
ooh they are leathal with them - LOL - dont half sting the legs ouch...

But I think generally all breeds aren't having an easy time for selling puppies.
Some people don't get it though and breed in the hope of making some money...fools eh!
Glad I'm not in the position that I need to breed in the near future, got at least 2 possibly 3 years
before I need to think about a litter again :)
- By dexter [gb] Date 23.11.08 15:20 UTC

> Crazy Polly it really is and rescues are bursting with them sadly


So true :(
- By AliceC Date 23.11.08 18:13 UTC Edited 23.11.08 18:16 UTC
The BRS always make me annoyed...this year there are 2 people in my breed whose bitches have had 2 litters within a year, and not from particularly great specimens of the breed on either side, so they are obviously not trying to improve the breed as a whole. :mad:
- By pugnut [gb] Date 23.11.08 18:49 UTC
Mine arrived yesterday. I was also wondering what had happened to it.
Was on the verge of ringing the KC and seeing if it had been sent after all!
- By molezak [gb] Date 26.11.08 09:12 UTC
Gosh, more Labs registered in 2007 than the entire list of 26 terrier breeds for the year (45,079 compared with 41,645).  Blimey. xx
- By Brainless [gb] Date 26.11.08 11:26 UTC Edited 26.11.08 11:37 UTC
I think you will find there were more Labs registered than the whole:

Entire Working group 28,030
  "      Hound      "     15,025
  "      Toy         "      29,342
  "      Utility      "      32,148
  "      Pastoral   "      20,964
  "      Terrier     "      41,645

In fact the Gundog group total registrations were 103,283, so Labradors made up around half of the at group.

Seems the labrador is the canine equivalent to the chinese in the human population
- By Granitecitygirl [eu] Date 26.11.08 11:56 UTC
Well where are all these labs then?  As I don't see many up here in the Far North!  From those numbers you would expect to see them everytime you stepped out of the house.  I believe a certain Magazine editor was using the Lab figure in her arguments against the KC, which if Joe Public knew the rest of the breeding figures would show how skewed the argument was.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 26.11.08 11:58 UTC

> From those numbers you would expect to see them everytime you stepped out of the house.


Loads of them are here in the rural Midlands. We meet 8 on our usual daily walks, and of course I see many more through work.
- By Lily Mc [gb] Date 26.11.08 12:05 UTC
And of course huge amounts more that aren't registered ...

Funnily enough I was just thinking that although I see a lot of Labs around here, it doesn't seem anywhere near proportionate to the amount that must exist.

M.
- By Isabel Date 26.11.08 12:06 UTC
They are immensely popular here in the North West of England.  In my village every other dog is a Labrador it seems.  Most of my immediate circle of friends own them too.
- By mastifflover Date 26.11.08 12:19 UTC

> it doesn't seem anywhere near proportionate to the amount that must exist.
>


That's true, I see quite a few labs, but not as many as I would expect to see going by the figures, but I think an alarming amount of dog owners (of all breeds, but labs are a popular 'pet' choice) do not walk there dogs on a regular basis :(

I have a 2 mile round trip walk to school & back every morning, if it's a nice sunny day I see LOADS of dogs (including many Labs), if it's very cold/wet/very windy we see hardly any dogs atall :( It's also rare I meet any other dog-walkers when I take Buster (twice a day). Far too many people are fair weather walkers, or worst still, as the novelty wears off of parading cute puppy around they just don't bother walking thier dogs atall.
- By molezak [gb] Date 26.11.08 15:30 UTC
It is quite mind blowing.  I swear everyone must own one (my mind is struggling to comprehend the numbers here!).  Where are you all hiding yours?! ;o)

When I was in my early teens I used to walk a Lab for 2 little old ladies that had him given to them stupidly by their stupid daughter.  They couldn't manage to walk him but I saw him once and felt so sorry for him I asked if I could take him out every day after school.  Of course they said yes, he wouldn't have got out at all otherwise, not that they cared.  I used to see him sat peering out of the porch window, he must have sat there all day (the old dears went to a day centre every day so he was alone all day).  The old ladies died soon after, one after the other and the dog was taken away, I don't know what happened to him, he was so lovely, made me cry at the time but it must happen so much :o( xx
- By Forever-red [ie] Date 28.11.08 18:52 UTC
Hi everyone,

Could someone explain exactly what a breed record supplement is? I'm in Ireland and our KC don't do them.
- By AliceC Date 28.11.08 19:00 UTC
I was going to say the same Isabel, I'm also in the North West and I have quite a few friends with Labs (KC reg good quality ones too), there are at least 10 Labs in my very small village! Quite a lot of working ones round here.

Forever-red, I'm sure someone can explain it better, but this link to the KC tells in brief terms what a Breed Records Supplement is. http://www.the-kennel-club.org.uk/asp/shop/fullDisplay.asp?item=Breed+Records+Supplement+%28Yearly+Subscription%29&dept=publications
- By Lokis mum [gb] Date 28.11.08 19:39 UTC
I too am concerned about the number of labs registered - like an iceberg, we would probably find that there are at least double that number unregistered.

We would have loved to have bred from Freya - she is a lovely girl and has connections with our original labs of 50 years ago - but although she is lovely, she is "average" - nothing greatly outstanding about her (and I'm typing this where she can't read it) and so, sadly, we've decided that we bred our last litter of labradors 11 years ago :(

That doesn't mean to say that there isn't another lab out there for us, somewhere, sometime......
- By Forever-red [ie] Date 29.11.08 12:15 UTC
Thanks AliceC :-)

Are Hip Scores recorded in it? I heard all hip scores done are published in something, trying to find out what. I'd just like to know what the scores of the dogs in my dogs pedigrees are/were.
- By perrodeagua [gb] Date 29.11.08 13:53 UTC
Yes hip scores are in there for the ones done in that last quarter.
- By gundoggal [gb] Date 29.11.08 15:42 UTC
There are lots of labs where i live in the south east.. there were hardly any chocolates exept mine until 2 years ago when i started seeing them everywhere! A bit concerning.
- By Misty Date 29.11.08 23:28 UTC
Are Hip Scores recorded in it?

If you contact the Kennel Club you can buy a complete list of all the hip scores in your breed. If you have it emailed to you as an excel spreadsheet, you can play with it and list the dogs by affix, sires, scores, gender or whatever.
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