Can any of the above please help in a survey I am trying to compile.

This relates to mainly bitches who have been spayed and have died prematurely from neurological problems i.e. back legs going or having severe arthritis rendering the bitch from normal exercise thus causing early euthanasia.

We had a bitch who had pyometra at 5 so was automatically given a hysterectomy and very soon afterwards contracted arthritis of the wrist joints but was given Metacam and a new playmate (a Malamute) and this kept her going until she was 9 and a 1/2 years old when she died with no warning of a (neurological seizure) or stroke which happened early hours Christmas morning.

A good friend who has had rescue Samoyed bitches has gone through the same problems with 5 of his is awaiting an xray on his six year old bitch this Monday who is now going through the same symptoms, severe stiffness after rest but once up and on the go seems to pace with her back legs as if to shift weight off each joint. As you can imagine he is totally distraught. Could it be that the better the breeding the less chance of this happening or is it something that occurs in most large breed bitches but seems to be kept quiet.

I would appreciate some feed back to try and make some sense of it all.

Thanks

Jenny and the Wintersperre Gang.

I have asked Janetta Parkyns (Seacourt Mals) and she has had no experience of this happening in her bitches. She said the only differences that she has ever noticed are the same as when a dog is castrated i.e. weight gain and coat change.
Hope that helps a little :) ,
Naomi

Hi Naomi,

Thanks for taking the time to find out from Jannetta for me, perhaps this is a conditon that affects Samoyed's more than any other Arctic breeds and I will still research into this.

Kind regards,

Jenny and the Wintersperre Gang.

helllooooo jenny how are u????and the malerooos:)
been reading your post ...
it could be possible that the hysterectomy has caused a hormonal problems
which would account for joint problems/stiffness???
hope your all well
lots oflove
stephxxx

Hi Steph, I've been banging on for years about the effect on the hormonal system of dogs spayed or castrated, and effect that can have on the dog. And I believe the younger the dog when the operation takes place the more likley it is to have an effect on the well being of the dog concerened. It is a relief to hear someone else has realised that you can't remove part of an intergrated system and expect it to function as well as it should. Ja:)kie

thanks jackie....im always studying things about animal health...sometimes i feel like a computer myself..i just love learning...:D
but this is very true hrt would help a wholelot...also what would help would be glucosamine...has to be with chonditorine the best is available through healthspan
in human form (which is safe togive dogs)the dog version of this is called 4joints and is rather hellishly expensive...stick with healthspan..i would reccomend
glucosamine with chon to any one.dog or human .suffering with joint/ligament/arthirtis....problems to maintain mobility/
sadly though i think jennys baby (although imay be wrong has passed on??:(

An analogy.

You can remove certain operating files from you computer system (such as when infected with a virus), and mostly things still work OK, but loose too many files and things start crashing!

thanx brainless!!
this usually happend to me when ive been "shopping"
:D :rolleyes:

Hi Steph,

Thanks for the reply, perhaps it makes us question as to why humans have HRT and dogs don't. I would be prepared to pay for this if it were available just to spare the bitch from any problems later in life.

How's Storm doing?

Jenny & the Wintersperre Gang.

I actually have to give my old dog HRT to keep him going and have done for the last 2 years. There are a couple of problems one the cost and the other more a serious matter in that it lowers the dogs immunity, still I have no choice and we go from day to day. He was castrated at 13 months and is a large spitz breed. Ja:)kie

Samoyed Update.

Sad news regarding my friends Sammy. Unfortunately she was put to sleep as the results of the xray were not good. The vet seems sure it was neurological related and even if medication was given there would have been no guarantee but may only prolong the agony for the dog and owner.

I have given him a phone number of a breeder who has been in Sams over 40 years just to get her opinion and he said that he will now get a pup from a known kennel as rescue Sams (bitches) are too much of a gamble.

Regards to everyone who has replied but I still would be interested if anyone else has had the same problems.

Jenny and the Wintersperre Gang.