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- By dollface Date 25.10.08 22:02 UTC
At the moment I am feeding Nutro Natural Choice Lamb n' rice but am thinking on switching the ingredients are-http://www.nutroproducts.com/ncdry-lrsb.shtml

Now I was thinking about Venison Meal & Whole Brown Rice Formula http://www.nutroproducts.com/ncdry-aven.shtml

I was also thinking about Diamond Lamb n' rice http://www.diamondpet.com/products/diamond_naturals/dogs/dry_food/small_breed_adult_dog_lamb_and_rice_formula/

And Go dogfood http://www.petcurean.com/ But I am not sure which one to look at here....

Nutro

Lamb Meal, Ground Rice, Whole Brown Rice, Rice Bran, Rice Flour, Dried Plain Beet Pulp, Lamb, Potato Protein, Poultry Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Rice Protein Concentrate, Natural Flavors, Pea Protein, Soybean Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Sunflower Oil (preserved with mixed Tochopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Potassium Chloride, Salt, Egg Product, Dried Kelp, Choline Chloride, Taurine, Vitamin E Supplement, Zinc Sulfate, Zinc Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of Vitamin C), Biotin, Garlic Flavor, Potassium Iodide, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, (source of Vitamin B2), Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of Vitamin B6) thiamine Mononitrate (source of Vitamin B1), Sodium Selenite, Manganese Proteinate, Manganous Oxide, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (source of Vitamin K activity), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid.

Venison Meal, Whole Brown Rice, Ground Rice, Rice Gluten, Rice Bran, Poultry Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Rice Flour, Dried Plain Beet Pulp, Oatmeal, Natural Flavors, Sunflower Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Soybean Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Dehydrated Potatoes, Calcium Carbonate, Potassium Chloride, L-Lysine, Salt, Dried Egg Product, Dried Kelp, Taurine, Choline Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, Zinc Sulfate, Zinc Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Ascorbic Acid (source of Vitamin C), Biotin, Manganese Proteinate, Manganous Oxide, Niacin, Garlic Flavor, Calcium Iodate, Calcium Pantothenate, Copper Sulfate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement (source of Vitamin B2), Vitamin A Supplement, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate (source of Vitamin B1), Copper Proteinate, Sodium Selenite, Chondroitin Sulfate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (source of Vitamin K activity), Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement.

Diamond

Lamb, lamb meal, cracked pearled barley, whole grain brown rice, egg product, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), millet, beet pulp, potatoes, flaxseed, natural flavor, fish meal, potassium chloride, choline chloride, dried chicory root, yucca schidigera extract, vitamin E supplement, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine mononitrate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, L-carnitine, biotin, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, riboflavin,vitamin D supplement, folic acid.

Now is there any ingrdients here I should be watching out for? I do prefer natural dogfood thats why I am looking at these ones and they are planning on bringing in the Go and Diamond hopefully- atleast this is what Petcetera told me- apparently Nutro lamb n' rice they are having trouble getting it- I also heard that Purina took over Nutro- how true is this?
- By dollface Date 25.10.08 22:47 UTC
The Go I was thinking about this one: http://www.petcurean.com/index.php?page_id=44
INGREDIENTS

Chicken Meal, Chicken, Turkey, Turkey Meal, Potato, Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols (vit. E), Herring Meal, Peas, Tomato Pomace, Natural Flavour, Salmon, Duck, Salmon Meal, Duck Meal, Salmon Oil, Whole Dried Egg, Flax Seed Oil, Brewer's Yeast, Pea Fibre, Potassium Chloride, Calcium Carbonate, Taurine, Choline Chloride, Chicory Root Extract, Mannanoligosaccharides, Pumpkin, Apples, Carrots, Bananas, Blueberries, Cranberries, Lentil Beans, Broccoli, Spinach, Cottage Cheese, Alfalfa Sprouts, Protease, Lipase, Garlic, Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Lactobacillus Casei, Enterococcus Faecium, Bifido-bacterium Thermophilum, Vitamins (vit. E, vit. C, niacin, inositol, vit. A, thiamine mononitrate, d-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, riboflavin, vit. K, beta-carotene, vit. D3, folic acid, biotin, vit. B12), Minerals (zinc proteinate, copper sulfate, copper proteinate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite), Ascorbyl-polyphosphate, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Dried Rosemary.


How do these ingredients sound? It has absolutly NO grain in it at all-hmmm
- By HuskyGal Date 25.10.08 23:34 UTC
Doll,

Do you have the analysis as well? (the %'s)
- By Crespin Date 26.10.08 04:27 UTC
Could the Nutro switch also have to deal with the sudden Nutro Price increase??  Come on, Nutro put the prices up on the Large Breed dog food up by $20 per bag, all of a sudden!!!!!!  (I am asking, mainly because my uncle owns a pet store, and is facing some pretty angry customers.....so it is purely noiseyness on my part). 
- By Ktee [au] Date 26.10.08 13:47 UTC

>Do you have the analysis as well?


Olivia,
Protein 42%
Fat 20%

Dollface IMO "Go" wins hands down,no question! Look how much rice and it's byproducts Nutro has :eek: Diamond is slightly better.But you cant compare these 2 foods with "Go",they have a completely different  philosophy.

Did you know Orijen is made in Canada?
- By Ktee [au] Date 26.10.08 14:37 UTC

>I also heard that Purina took over Nutro- how true is this?


Judging by the change of ingredients,for the worse,then you probably heard right :(

Old ingredients list for Nutro Natural Choice Lamb Meal & Rice:

Lamb Meal, Ground Rice, Rice Flour, Rice Bran, Sunflower Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of natural Vitamin E), Poultry Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of natural Vitamin E), Natural Flavors, Rice Gluten, Dried Egg Product, Dried Beet Pulp, Potassium Chloride, L-Lysine, Dried Kelp (source of Iodine), Salt, Choline Chloride, Zinc Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Taurine, Ferrous Sulfate, Ascorbic Acid (source of Vitamin C), Biotin, Copper Proteinate, Niacin, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement (source of Vitamin B2), Vitamin A Supplement, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Chondroitin Sulfate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of Vitamin B6), Thiamine Mononitrate (source of Vitamin B1), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (source of Vitamin K activity), Calcium Iodate, Folic Acid.

New ingredients list (changes are in bold) for Nutro Natural Choice Lamb & Rice:

Lamb, Ground Rice, Rice Flour, Rice Bran, Whole Brown Rice, Lamb Meal, Potato Protein, Poultry Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Rice Protein Concentrate, Natural Flavors, Pea Protein, Soybean Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Sunflower Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Potassium Choloride, Monocalcium Phosphate, L-Lysine, Salt, Choline Chloride, Egg Product, Dried Beet Pulp, Dried Kelp, Taurine, Vitamin E Supplement, Zinc Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate,(source of Vitamin C), Copper Proteinate, Biotin, Niacin Supplement, Garlic Flavor, Potassium Iodide, Manganous Oxide,Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement (source of Vitamin B2), Thiamine Mononitrate (source of Vitamin B1), Pyridozxine Hydrochloride (source of Vitamin B6), Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (source of Vitamin K activity), Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement.
- By dollface Date 26.10.08 15:52 UTC
The price didn't really matter to me since Petcera with my discount and stuff I end up paying alot less about 40-50 some dollars a bag- but they have trouble getting it in where at Petsmart and Western Feeds its like 60 some dollars a bag- But I noticed a difference in the ingredients and I couldn't understand why it was changed until someone told me that Purina took them over so wasn't sure if it was true or not...

Do you think Diamond is better then Go? Cause I was kinda thinking on Go dogfood since it does have less of an ingredient list and alot of meat as well which I do like- guess its back to comparing ingredients and looking everything up cause I think this is the last bag of nutro Iam buying. The only thing is I don't think you can get Go in large bags so if not then I guess it will be Diamond. I do prefer the Natural over the Holistic since Holistic they can add dyes and I really don't see the point of having dyes in a dogfood...

Kinda sad cause my dogs really like this food and have done good on it weight, fur everything but I am hoping the switch won't be to bad so maybe next week may just buy a bag of this other food and do a real slow switch or maybe today cause am planning on checking out Petsmart...
- By dollface Date 26.10.08 17:54 UTC Edited 26.10.08 17:57 UTC
This food here is made in Alberta:

Orijen

Deboned chicken, chicken meal, turkey meal, russet potato, lake whitefish, chicken fat, sweet potato, whole eggs, turkey, salmon meal, salmon and anchovy oils, salmon, natural chicken flavour, sunflower oil, sun-cured alfalfa, dried brown kelp, carrots, spinach, peas, tomatoes, apples, psyllium, dulse, glucosamine Hcl, cranberries, black currants, rosemary extract, chondroitin sulfate, sea salt.
TONIC HERBS AND BOTANICALS
Chicory root, licorice root, tumeric root, funugreek, marigold flowers, sweet fennel, zea mays, peppermint leaf, chamomile flowers, dandelion, summer savory, rosehips.
ORGANIC MINERALS
Iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate.
PROBIOTIC MICROORGANISMS
Dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product.
PREMIUM VITAMINS
Mixed tocopherols (source of vitamin E), choline chloride, vitamin A, vitamin D3, thiamine mononitrate, vitamin B12, folic acid, biotin.

I think its a toss up with Go and this one....- guess off to comparing everything and see which one is the best to go for....

Ktee-- Do you think Orijen is better then GO?
- By dollface Date 26.10.08 18:20 UTC
If the Orijen comes in the bigger bag I think that will be the one I will be buying- so think Iam gonna go to western feeds and see what they have- I just bought a huge bag of nutro yesterday so if I get a bag of this new dogfood and do a slow switch I should have no tummy problems and the poo's with my dogs- so think Iam off to go do that now.... These 2 foods seem to have alot of different meat and NO grains which I like, just hope Tiva doesn't have a problem with it.
- By dollface Date 26.10.08 19:09 UTC
Lol have to reply here- well I bought Orijen- I thought since it is Canadian made then I should have no problem getting it and the ingredients seem to be really good as well....
- By Ktee [au] Date 28.10.08 03:28 UTC

>Ktee-- Do you think Orijen is better then GO?


They're so close,but if i HAD to choose just 1 i would go with GO.However if it were me, i would rotate between them :) It's always good to give a variety of different foods, differing nutritional/ingredient profiles. Plus i have found that dogs used to getting a variety of different foods tend to have cast iron tum's and handle changes very well.
- By dollface Date 31.10.08 00:01 UTC
Lol I was actually planning on doing just that- this way they get a wide variety and won't be bored of their food :-)

I have picked up Orijen and am slowly mixing it- I now have alot of dogfood lmao
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