I am interested in purchasing a Shepherd trained to police standard, up tp 12mths old to become a family member. He/she should be large and lovable to all, when not working.

Any advice on the above from trainers in this field would be appreciated.

Please contact Jo on 01617895345, 07815922371 or e-mail joeleanormachen@aol.com

Jo,

I may be incorrect, but most dogs of 12 months of age would not be fully trained to the standard you are looking for as they are too young.

Can anyone correct me if I am wrong?

Also can I ask why you want a Shepherd trained to police standard?

Theresa

Theresa

You can have a 12 month old dog fully trained and licenced. It is usually when the handler has had the dog from a puppy and the dog shows enough mental maturity.

Thanks Lara

Theresa :)

I find it hard to understand why you want a *police trained* GSD to be a *family* dog.
But IMHO I would imagine that any available GSD's of that age that have been involved in police training will be few & far between and probably only being let go because of their unsuitability to their job.
Nicky

I think you'll find that the police only take on dogs from 12 mths and up so adog of that age would not have had that kind of formal training
Liz :)

A dog that had gone through formal police training, would not be on offer to the public, The police can have dogs gifted into them from puppy age, but the preffered age is between 12 months and 2 years of age, once being assessed to see if they are suitable for police work they are allocated to a handler who will then do there basic course with the dog, for the next 10 to 12 weeks, i suggest if you want a gsd, then buy a puppy from a reputable breeder and train it yourself, you will get much more satisfaction when you have a well trained dog sitting beside you and you know that you did it all yourself, there are plenty of dog training clubs out there to help you, hope this is of some help Diane.

Sorry I disagree - it is possible to have formally trained dogs rehomed with the public. Some handlers rehome their dogs when they retire and if a dog should fail it's assessment at some stage in its career for whatever reason then it will not be licenced and can be rehomed. I agree that a dog of unsound temperament should not be rehomed with the public.
I have rehomed such a dog myself which unfortunately had an early end to its working life due to a skeletal fault which only showed up after formal training was completed. That dog was 14 months old at the time and now lives with a lovely family as a pet.

Lara

you get in touch with the metropolitan police then and tell me if they would give you a fully trained police dog, i can tell you now no they would not, they sell there puppys that do not make the grade and gift dogs that come in are either sent back to original owners or rehomed with someone else before they have done any training at all, dogs that fail for another reason that are operational police dogs are usually offered to the prison service, army, croydon council, or to the officer that works it or to someone that knows what they are doing with a dog that is trained in that way, so usually a friend of the officer or known to someone within the dog sections, i know, because i worked for the met for 9 years at the dog training est at keston, and now work for croydon council dog section, i also own a met dog that was failed at 7 weeks of age because he failed the test that they have to go through.

So Jo needs to make friends with an officer then to get a dog?
Was down at Keston myself in the early '90's - might have bumped into you!

i was there from 1993, so maybe.

one other thing you say that if a dog fails its licensing it can then be rehomed, oh no it cant, it will have failed that test by doing something that is unsafe for that dog to be out amongst the public and they are usually put to sleep, that is if they do not pass the second test they are allowed to take which also includes a weeks training with one of the instuctors going through what it previously failed on.
I dont know what goes on within other forces, what there rules are but that is what they do and they would not allow a trained police dog to go into the hands of someone that they knew nothing about, did no one see the programme on telly about the couple that had a supposedly trained police dog that thay had to get rid of because they eventually cauldnt get near it, and it took a real dislike to the woman, any force would not want anything coming back on them if something was to go wrong with that dog.

What a lot of old tosh !!!!!!! perhaps some one wants to let go of a 2 year bitch who has had all her health checks with under average hip score, is already a champion, ready to have a litter, must be able to have 4 of each sex in the litter, oh and because she is not a cute 8 week old cannot be expected to pay full price

ROTFLOL @ Charm. :D
Classic! :D

:D :D :D :D @Charm- In an ideal world eh;)

Stacey x x x

Any idea where I can get such a bitch of my breed charm??? LOL :D :D

Hi Jo

There are private companies who train dogs in protection to police standards. You might contact one of them to discuss what you are after.
Please bear in mind a dog trained to bite can be a liability and a dangerous weapon in the wrong hands.

Jo- trust me I would have loved a 1 year old GSD trained and obedient to the high standards you're expecting- I'm one of those who doesn't see the novelty in a cute puppy- they p**s and s**t everywhere, chew, nip etc etc- basically they're a pain in the backside:rolleyes: But unfortunatly in order to get the loving obedient companion you're after- I've got to go through all this crap:( Why not try a rescue for the older dog that's at the companion stage! Honestly if there was such a dog as what you're looking for- I would have happily paid double the price of my KC reg GSD bitch!

Stacey x x x

Could I point out that it is not just the GSD that is trained to Police Standard and is licenced, it is the handler too. You need to be trained to handle a dog of this standard, if you are then why not do the job yourself. Ja:)ie

My husband Mike had a GSD as a family pet that had failed as a police dog and she was a very loved and trusted member of his family. She could however scale very tall fences and used to wait to hear Mike coming home from school and as soon as she heard his footsteps would scale the fence and go and greet him !!

Lucy