saw this add for  a little chihuahua pup surley they should keep her ? am i wrong ?

""Special Home Needed For Puppy Daphnie
£500.

VERY SPECIAL HOME NEEDED FOR A 10WK OLD LONGCOATED CHIHUAHUA PUPPY BOTH HER PARENTS ARE KC REG BUT LITTLE DAPHNIE WILL NOT BE REG AS SHE HAS GOT NASTAMINER IN OTHER WORDS LACK OF OXYGAN TO THE BRAIN WHEN BORN.SHE IS NOT ON ANY MEDICATION AT ALL, SHE IS VERY PLAYFUL, SHE NOW,S WERE HER FOOD AND WATER IS AND SHE ALSO NOW,S WERE THE PAPER IS TO DO HER TOILET NEEDS. WHEN YOU LOOK CLOSE UP TO HER YOU CAN TELL BY HER EYE,S AS THEY MOVE FROM SIDE TO SIDE. AND SHE RUN,S TO THE LEFT SIDE BUT SHE IS A HAPPY GOING LITTLE CHIHUAHUA IN NEED OF LOVE AND CARE NOT TO GO TO A HOME WITH SMALL CHILDREN WOULD SUIT AN ELDERLY PERSON OR SOMEONE ON THEIR OWN. SO SHE IS NOT FOR BREEDING SHE HAS HAD HER FULL VACINATIONS WORMED UPTO DATE AND DEFLEAD AND SHE IS READY TO GO TO A CHIHUAHUA LOVING HOME STRAIGHT AWAY AT £500.NO OFFER,S HER DAD IS THE CREAM ONE. THANKS FOR LOOKING PLEASE PHONE FOR MORE DETAILS OR EMAIL ME NO MORE TIME WASTER,S PLEASE THANKYOU

That poor puppy needs security and a permanant stable home, what person would try to sell a ill puppy to someone? :(
I hope someone does come and take her and give her a good home with the best she deserves as it seems the poster of this ad isnt intrested in keeping her, and to answer your question Daisy I do think they should keep her, but wonder how they came about a pup that was that ill to begin with? they must have knowns eh was ill so why buy her? unless its the breeder but doesnt seem like it?

If I had bred this dog I wouldnt be selling her thats for sure. I would keep her but might think my house is to hectic for her, I dont know anything about this condition. But if i felt she would be better of in a home as a single pet getting individual attention I would seek out such a home and give her away. I would see it as a favour to me not a exercise in making money.

Part of me also wonders if it is kinda to PTS rather than rehome. As i say I have no idea about this condition so i dont know what long term quality of life is like

What is nastaminer?   googled it but there was just this!   .......no stamina?

Looked in 'Veterinary Notes For Dog Owners'. I couldn't find any mention of Nastiminer. However, I can help you with 'No Stamina', I suffer from it myself.

omg that is so sad :-(  poor little baby.  I can't find nastiminer either - how odd.  I can't believe they could bring themselves to part with her, never mind want to.  Poor little thing - feel really sad now :-(

I suppose we shouldn't really be all that surprised. Chihuahuas are one of the current 'cash crop' breeds being churned out by unscrupulous and uncaring people, (I won't give them the honour of calling them breeders, as this would be an insult to genuine breeders). The ad is carefully worded to pull at the heart strings and we can only hope that some kind person takes this poor little mite into their homes. As for the thought of this person keeping the puppy, not a good idea. The only saving grace is that they have stipulated that she is to go to a home without children and isn't to be bred from. I agree, I certainly would't be trying to get money for her. I would just be grateful if she got a loving home.

Seeing as the people who wrote he advert clearly cannot spell, and they described the pup's eyes as darting backwards and forwards, I'd be willing to bet they meant NYSTAGMUS.

Sadly though, you have now given these people additional publicity :(   

The only saving grace is that they have stipulated that she is to go to a home without children and isn't to be bred from. I agree, I certainly would't be trying to get money for her. I would just be grateful if she got a loving home.

Completeley agree with you there!
A small silver lining is that they dont want her bred from and to be the only dog etc, shows some heart at least.

Lokis mum maybe its for the better that this girl gets the right kind of home quicker, I wouldnt usually say this but as she is ill she needs stabilty straight away and the sooner the better in my eyes.

£500 and the dog already has problems, I'm sorry but you would have to mad to take this on!  I can see no good reason to raise this puppy but if they were too squeamish to have it PTS when they realised that it had brain damage then they should look after the dog themselves or give it free to someone they know will care for it. This smacks of someone trying to make money from an imperfect puppy by pulling the sympathy card. Another breeder out to make a quick buck while taking no responsibility for the puppy they have bred. I know this wont be the popular view but it annoys me when there are so many healthy dogs in need of homes that someone would try to make money from this situation.

Thats so sad :(

i had a puppy that was born with problems, the vets suspected something like a stroke/lack of oxygen to brain, never got to the bottom of it, he was blind until he was 7 weeks and circled often, also has hyper-excitabilty and stunted growth. There was no way i would ever of tried to sell him or give him away for that matter, he was never going anywhere! he is still with me today and is coming upto 4 years old, we have a very special bond and he is a very happy boy. :)
i feel he was bred by me so was my responsibility and he will remain my responsiblity til the end of days, please god thats years away yet.

Some people are just unbelievable - poor little puppy :(

And that is how it should be - good breeders take responsibility!

I'm sorry - and I know that what I am going to write will not go down well with the "fluffy" brigade.

If the owner/breeder of this puppy is not prepared to accept the full responsibility for rearing this puppy and giving it the home it deserves, then that owner/breeder should take the responsibility of putting this puppy to sleep.

No ifs, buts or maybes......

To still expect financial recompense for this puppy is absolutely and totally immoral and greedy.

Wouldn't it be nice if the person who bred this puppy was a member of Champdogs Forum and could see exactly what we all think of them.

I can see where your coming from Loki as the pup is ill and needs a special home to be able to look after her so it may never be found if they want money for her too, she cant be kc registered as if she had brought her the breeder would have her back or she bred herself and is trying to exploit a sick puppy.

In this case pts should be a last option and I can see where its justified as the pup is already ill, as I am a member if the fluffy brigade as you put it, the only reason I oppose culling pups is because to oput a healthy dog to sleep with no ailments whatsoever is horrific in my eyes and plain obvious murder, but this isnt the case with this puppy as she is ill even tho she can still cope pretty well it seems just has a slight leaning while running which is not a reason strong enough to pts as she is soping well with her condition, but I still do hope she finds a good home and is looked after well, pts is always or should be a last option where all other options have failed and shouldnt be done just for the convienance if youself or wallet.

If the owner/breeder of this puppy is not prepared to accept the full responsibility for rearing this puppy and giving it the home it deserves, then that owner/breeder should take the responsibility of putting this puppy to sleep.

Yep. I had a kitten with nystagmus once, so kept him as there was no way I could sell him. He only lived to 5 months of age.

I doubt if they are members somehow , I think the nystagmus idea is a good one and although pup may have poor eyesight that should be all- - a very strange advert - I agree there is no way these people should be selling pup If they feel they cant keep it for the pups best interests then a loving home but NO money should change hands -
I would be no good working in rescue this makes me so sad

when i saw this ad i had to read it and re- read it .i was tempted to phone and ask more questions about the little pup , the advert is still on , i believe i can report this breeder at the bottom of this well know web site, think i will give that a go..sandra

can you tell me a little more about "NYSTAGMUS." does it affect there life expectancy?

Nystagmus is just a sign of something neurological being wrong, it could indicate a variety of problems including brain damage.

> To still expect financial recompense for this puppy is absolutely and totally immoral and greedy.

wholeheartedly agree.
Playing with folks sympathies whilst plundering their pocket rather than taking a more responsible and humane line (pts), abhorrent... :O(

This puppy is  a possible heartbreaker. It "may" have a reasonably good life or could have severe problems,hydrocephalus,  fits etc. If the breeder can find a sympathetic knowledgable home I certainly don't think they should charge  for the puppy.

Having spent the morning villifying this person, I've just been speaking to a breeder friend on the phone. I told her about this puppy and she has put a completely different slant on the whole thing. What if this person is a caring breeder with a sick puppy whom they would like to be placed in a loving home, and is charging for it to avoid the risk of somebody taking it on simply because it is free. Makes you think doesn't it. Although I have to say, if that is the case then £500 is a bit steep.

If this person was a caring breeder, they would be taking responsibility for this puppy themselves not hiving it off to become someone elses problem, if they cannot do this then they should be considering having the puppy PTS or homing it with someone they know not advertising it to all and sundry.

I read this last night and have been thinking about it.

I think that if the breeder cannot keep the puppy themselves (and I think they certainly have an obligation to) then they should put the pup to sleep, despite the fact that I have doubts that nystagmus is always linke dot nbrain damage or neurological problems, as my son has it an dhas neither, his eyes simply flicker and it causes him no other problems, so the nystagmus may not be linked to anything else. Having said that, a pup that can onyl walk in one direction clearly has something wrong with it.

If you aren't prepared to take responsibility for any pup you breed, you shouldn't be breeding, IMO. They should have considered the possibilities before they bred this pup.

Obviously we don't know the full story behind why the breeders don't want to keep her - but in my personal opinion, I cannot think why they would want to sell a pup like this - it baffles me! To ask for £500 for a dog with this condition is crazy, and completely greedy!! The "not KC reg" thing seems a little dodgy too - is there anything that actually stops you from KC registering a dog with a condition like this??

I can completely understand why people have suggested the pup is PTS - being owned by a disabled dog myself, I know how difficult it is to look after one, and also how heartbreaking it is to see them in pain. The breeders seem like they are passing the buck with this pup which is inexcusable. It will be really tricky to find a special home for this girl, I think. :-(

It's horrible to see any breed become the latest "must have", Chihuahuas as a breed seem to be really bearing the brunt of things at the moment.

I,ve just bred a boy similar to yours MandyC and like you my boy is going nowhere.He is such a sweet happy little man but I dont see why I should pass off his problem to someone else.He will stay with me till the end of his days.

good for you dogsbody, it is so nice to hear from people who do really care about what they breed and take full responsibilty.
i hope your little boy does well and lives a happy life like my special boy. :)