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Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / crossbreeds being sold with kc reg ???????
- By ashleig08 [gb] Date 17.07.08 16:15 UTC
in a certain free ads newspaper someone is selling chi/yorkies as kc reg for £500 how can they be kc correct me if i am wrong but:
A) they are a crossbreed
B) i thought yorkies couldnt be registered anyway (or am i mixing up my breeds)
they want more than my breed sell for with excellent lines and kc reg some people have got guts im so tempted to ring the number and question this the ad reads

CHIHUAHUA/YORKSHIRE TERRIER CROSS PUPS
8 WEEKS OLD.KC REG . PEDIGREE PROVEN STUD
£500 ONO

anyone else confused
- By tooolz Date 17.07.08 16:26 UTC
Hi Ashleig.    anyone else confused

Nope.

They can't.
- By Soli Date 17.07.08 16:27 UTC

> Nope.
>
> They can't.


Unless they've been registered on the Activities Register... (which means nothing).

Debs
- By Moonmaiden Date 17.07.08 16:31 UTC
They could be registered with the KC's Companion Dog Club !
- By sara1bee [gb] Date 17.07.08 16:32 UTC
prob means both parents are kc reg!
- By ShaynLola Date 17.07.08 16:41 UTC

>B) i thought yorkies couldnt be registered anyway (or am i mixing up my breeds)


Yorkshire Terriers are a KC registered breed.  I think you may be confusing them with Jack Russell Terriers which aren't recognised by the KC.
- By ridgielover Date 17.07.08 16:48 UTC
I read it as almost 2 ads - the first is for the crossbred pups, the second is advertising that the sire is kc reg and proven.  Perhaps advertising him as available for stud work??
- By ShaynLola Date 17.07.08 16:52 UTC
Aaah...I think I see what you mean Ridgielover....as well as the pups they have a KC Reg proven stud dog available for use?
- By theemx [gb] Date 17.07.08 17:50 UTC
Iiiiiiiii think....

It should really read thus: "CHIHUAHUA/YORKSHIRE TERRIER CROSS PUPS
8 WEEKS OLD. KC REG, PEDIGREE PROVEN STUD
£500 ONO"

Rather than "CHIHUAHUA/YORKSHIRE TERRIER CROSS PUPS
8 WEEKS OLD,KC REG . PEDIGREE PROVEN STUD
£500 ONO"

Which seems to be how we are all reading it initially... because the person putting the advert up has used a full stop where a comma ought be.

Quite what relevance the stud being kc reg, pedigree or proven stud has when the offspring are mongrels I'm not sure though.
- By Lily Mc [gb] Date 17.07.08 17:54 UTC
I would imagine it's very carefully written that way, precisely to give the impression that the first poster had, but so the advertiser could point out the error if challenged.

M.
- By tadog [gb] Date 17.07.08 21:22 UTC
I remembered years ago going to see a litter of Flatcoat x Golden retrievers. the owner was sellling as purebred pups, I tried to tell her they were crosses but she wasnt very bright. I said the parents were diff breeds but to no avail. they were black and did look like F/C's but they were not. I phoned the kennel club and was told that as both parents were reg with K.C. then it could 'slip thru'. I got in touch with a Golden breeder whos line was in the pedigree.  then years later I spoke to someone who had had a pup from the litter and she thought she had got a purebred F/C I didnt have the heart to tell her. but I wonder how many were bred from?!
- By Moonmaiden Date 18.07.08 08:37 UTC
It must have been an exceptionally long time ago as the KC has been computerised for many years & the different breeds would have been picked up on the inputting of the registration numbers(I know someone who tried to register a litter of WSD x BCs as BCs way back in the early 1980s & it was picked up way back then.)
- By tadog [gb] Date 20.07.08 17:21 UTC
twas mid '80s.
- By perrodeagua [gb] Date 20.07.08 21:52 UTC
It doesn't actually state that the pups were sold with KC papers, just that the owner thought that they were "pedigrees" because both parents were.
- By Crespin Date 20.07.08 23:33 UTC
Most times, Jo Public doesnt know.  I know one person who will agrue until Florida gets a foot of snow, that Goldendoodles and Labradoodles are purebred, just because they have a "name".  When you try to tell her otherwise, it starts a fight, with her saying "I bl***y well know what I am talking about!".  Um, no you dont......but whatever!  No use arguing. 
- By Rach85 [gb] Date 21.07.08 09:41 UTC
I see an ad like this too in the free ads on Saturday.....

A KC reg Bulldog mated with a SherPei cross who isnt KC reg, they were also stating the pups would be KC registered and trying to charge £600 for them :eek: , what a load of  **** but its the people they con who I feel sorry for and the poor puppy who is already at a disadvantage being born to those greedy *******.
- By orjack Date 21.07.08 15:12 UTC
I've also seen recently Jack Russell's being sold as KC reg, can only assume they are activity registered.

Latest ad that has made me smile is a new breed 'SPRING- BOARDS' (yup, springer x border collie)

Going a bit off topic, is  an Accredited KC breeder, who's premises I visited 3 years ago but left as I didn't like the premises nor the dogs (registered at that time for 16 dogs - I checked with the council - all being hid/housed in the garage) was recently selling Border Collie x minature Poodle at the KC reg price of purebred, advertised as being suitable for agility (how can she be sure?) and now selling Border Collie x Polish Lowland Sheepdog as a result of a 'test mating'. Again at price of purebred KC.

Sorry for going off topic but I find it amazing that Accredited Breeders end up with unplanned matings resulting in cross breed/mongrel pups pretend that the mating was planned and then advertise them for ridiculous prices.
- By hayley123 Date 21.07.08 15:23 UTC
I've also seen recently Jack Russell's being sold as KC reg, can only assume they are activity registered

are you sure that it was jack russells and not parson russells or parson jack russells? parson russells are recognised and do have kc status some people just refer to them as jack russells
- By orjack Date 21.07.08 15:42 UTC
Parson Jack's were my first thought but it definitely stated Jack Russell. Normally people state Parson's.
- By Isabel Date 21.07.08 16:49 UTC

> I find it amazing that Accredited Breeders end up with unplanned matings resulting in cross breed/mongrel pups pretend that the mating was planned and then advertise them for ridiculous prices.


Are they, perhaps, involved in agility?  I can't really see why a well bred, from health tested stock, and well reared agility litter should cost any less that a conformation bred litter.
- By hayley123 Date 21.07.08 17:57 UTC
so you are saying that its ok to breed cross bred dogs that really have no purpose and charge loads for them? yes i understand agility is a purpose but how many if any would actually go to agility homes?
- By Isabel Date 21.07.08 18:01 UTC Edited 21.07.08 18:12 UTC
I don't know as it is not my area of interest but I would imagine they could be similar ratios of pets to show/competing dogs if the breeder has any reputation.  And no I am not saying "that its ok to breed cross bred dogs that really have no purpose and charge loads for them?"  As you go on to say, agility is a purpose, a legitimate and honourable doggie hobby as far as I can see.
- By orjack Date 23.07.08 15:57 UTC

> Are they, perhaps, involved in agility?  I can't really see why a well bred, from health tested stock, and well reared agility litter should cost any less that a conformation bred litter.


No, the breeder is not involved in agility. She is/was involved in showing.

I, personally can't understand anyone deliberaltely crossing two species of dog although obviously pet owners with more than one type of dog, un-nuetered frequently breed crosses and think it is okay. What I find amazing is that a knowledgeable person, Accredited breeder to boot, would deliberately cross a minature poodle with a border collie and then go on to 'test mate' a border collie and lowland polish sheepdog.

I always thought that 'professional' breeders were breeding to better their lines and improve their dogs.

Maybe i'm missing somthing??
Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / crossbreeds being sold with kc reg ???????

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