Hello

My wife and I have a few AKC Pomeranians. We have read extensively about the breed and we both have an interest in becoming a licensed breeder. What are the laws and everything on breeding dogs. We are obvoiusly going to start out small in our home and see how it goes but we want to be legal and everything.
Thanks in advance.

To be honest why would anyone with a genuine interest in their breed want to breed on the scale to need to be licensed.

A licence is required from the local Authorities by Commercial breeders which are defined as those breeding five or more litters of pups in any 12 month period, or otherwise considered to be breeding as a business.

No license is required by the Kennel club in oder to register puppies, only to have a bitch that is registered in your name and be mated to a registered dog, with neither parent having any restrictions on their registrations.

Most serious breeders apply to the KC for a Kennel name or affix.  There is a fee for taking it out and an annual maintenance fee also.

Depends on how many litters you are planning on having a year. The best place to find out the information is your local council, I think it requires that the premises you are trading and breeding from meet the standards laid down by the council and the premises will be inspected. You will, of course, also need the necessary planning permission if you are building or change of use if that is what you have in mind. You will also have to keep accounts as in any business and notify the tax office.

By AKC are we to assume you are the USA?

The information in the OP's details states they are in the USA

In which case I have no idea.

> The information in the OP's details states they are in the USA

No, it states their IP is in the USA.  People who live in the UK using AOL, for instance, will still say IP in the USA.
To the OP, if you are in the USA the rules may be different to anything most of us will know about in the UK but I would say breeding on any scale other than a litter every year or two to replenish your own line is very difficult to do without beginning to compromise the welfare of the dogs you will be responsible for.
It becomes hard to give the dam and her puppies the care and attention they need to grow healthy and well socialised and it will be hard to find them all homes of a standard that you could be comfortable with.

As they say AKC registered dogs and their IP is in America I would efinitely say that the poster is in America.

From what I've seen of many American Pom's anyway I doubt that I'd like them, many are massive like Sharon Osbournes and look nothing like the breed should.

Sorry that many of us are no help but this is British based site that welcomes people from all over the world. 

As an owner and breeder of proper sized Pomeranian's I know what heartache and pain they can give when very rarely breeding.

I'm in the UK and there's a dog the owners are telling me is a Pom at club and it's the size of a German Spitz klein if not mittel, yikes! Presume the OP definitely means 'licensed breeder' in the large scale sense and not just 'accredited' in the UK sense or 'reputable', they might not realise there's a difference! :-)

Hello All and thank you for the replys. Yes I am from the USA. I live in IOWA.  As far as US daogs like Osbournes pom being big they can be. We do not breed big poms. I have a 6 lb female and a male that will be 4 1/2-5 lbs. My 3rd dog is a 8.3# and is fixed as hi is bigger than the person we bought from said he would get. If people breed dogs like that person there will be dogs. My wife and I want to breed to the standard 3-7 lbs. No as for the local council - How do I find my local council? For now we would breed less that 5 litters a yr but just wanted to know what it takes if we want to become a larger scale where my wife would do this as a profession. Of course we would have to build a nice kennel building to do that. Thanks all

I would not have thought any Toy breed would be terribly happy as a kennel dog.  A "nice" kennel block means nothing to dogs it is the human input that they thrive on and is essential in rearing them to be the sort of well socialised pet that people would wish for.  I wonder if you have considered how you will achieve this if they are out in kennels. 
You would need to produce a very large number of puppies to supply even one persons income as there is little, if any, profit to be made, infact most people regard breeding as a rather expensive hobby.  Of course there are puppyfarmers that manage to turn a profit but they are not using quality stock, nor incuring the expense of showing that stock to ensure it is the best quality and they do not attempt to keep them with any regard to their welfare. 

You need to check with your local council what their ideas are for breeding out there with you. It will not be the same as in this country. An internet check should find them for you. Its no use saying what the regs are in this country, unless of course you are planning on moving over here.

Hello

As far as a kennel it would be a very nice Morten shed with outdoor runs for them to go out of the building. There would also be a large fenced in area to let them loose to run and play and socialize with them. I would have to disagree with you on making a decent income as a profession. This would be out in the country also on an acreage.  Where I purchased my male was in Missouri at a guy in the country who had 3 kennel buildings like this. He showed me every single dog there and they all were to the breed standard, very friendly happy dogs. I was able to pet any of them with no problem and I was a stanger. He is licensed and is inspected frequently. He spends about 5 hrs every morning just tending to the kennel, feeding, cleaning, etc. Those buildings are expensive and he told me he plans on doing it for another 8 yrs then retire! The puppy we bought from him made 158 for the 2008 fiscal yr. How do the math there and times that by 2 for a full yr.  Now lets say he sold them all at an even rate of $400 and 300 for the yr which he will sell way more than that - $120,000 minus expenses of building mortgage, food and vet bills or worms, shots, occasionale c-sections things like that you can still clear half $60,000 or more. Once the building is paid off the income will be much larger. He had about 30 or so newborns at the time I was there. All his puppies sell from $500-1200. Yes there are vet expenses, building and food costs etc. and it would probably only generate an average salary but the best part of this profession for my wife we be to see all the little puppies and spend her time with her favorite dogs the pomeranian. From my stand point there is not very many places to get a very nice quality pom in the state of Iowa. Pet stores cost $1000 or more when you can get the same quality or better puppy for half that price so there is a market for it. I searched and searched online for or male online and was willing to go to Missouri and check this place out and I could not have been happier. I would recommend anyone wanting a quality pom to the standard to go check this guy out! I will defineatly by from him again.

A Puppy Mill will make a profit its a sad fact. Caring responsible breeders don't always and certainly do not breed on the scale you are talking about.

Chrusher 22.

Not sure if you are for real or not.

Sorry but these are not farm stock you are breeding, but dogs one of the most intelligent species on earth. To commerically breed for the pet market is immoral. Breeding a bitch every season is obviously the way you intend to go Words fail me

No one can give enough attention to 30 puppies & their mothers plus other dogs on their own. I spend more than 5 hours a day looking after/training my dogs & I only have 5

Your reason for breeding is solely to make money, this is certainly not the norm here in the UK. Most breedes are bred by hobby breeders who compete with their dogs in some canine activities(whether it is conformation/obedience/agility etc etc)breed so that they have another dog from their lines to continue to compete with. They do not breed to fill the pet market & make it easy for people buy puppies on a whim.

I waited 20 years to get a puppy from the bloodlines behind my Wukee(& Jessie) I didn't just decide one day I want a BC & trot down the road to buy one from a puppy farmer(Puppy Mill in the USA)

You will be setting up a puppy mill to produce puppies that you sell for the profit they bring, no matter how clean & well designed it maybe it will still be a puppy mill. I don't know how much knowledge you have of  any pedigree breeds-let alone an indepth knowledge of pomeranians

On top of the aversion that other posters have expressed for these breeding methods I wonder what plans your wife has in place for finding suitable, loving and permanent homes for, possibly, 30 puppies at a time of this breed that she is so fond of.
I understand Missouri has a reputation for puppy mills so perhaps not the best place to seek a mentor.

You can't be called a puppy farmer - more like a puppy rancher.

Sorry but you have come to the wrong site to get tips on commercial breeding on the scale that you are contemplating.

We who post on this site do not look for commercial gain as you would appear to be seeking.   We don't retire from our dogs - our dogs stay with us to the ends of our (and their) lives.   In over 40 years, I think I've bred 8 litters - and I could tell you the names of each and every one of those puppies - also the names of the families they've joined.   Would you be able to do that?   I think not.

In the eyes of posters on Champdogs, we breed for the good of the breed,  when we want a puppy - not when we want a new car.

There is no point in saying to you please think again ....but you will not find many people here viewing your plans with pleasure.

Sorry sounds like you want to be a puppy farmer and I for one don't condone that kind of breeder! 

Think you may be right calmstorm. What true amoral greed monkey would join a UK based site that's obviously anti-puppy farming to ask questions about how to churn out scores of pups to line their pockets. I'm sure that type of person already knows how to go about it or wouldn't ask here.

Yes, Lori, I'm quite sure this is just an attention seeker looking to fire things up a bit. If this person is on AOL it is easy to hide if in this country or not, and also easy to then pick a country full of puppy mills.
OR it may be a worm from a USA site trying to shock and react a 'pompus' (in their eyes) British site and having a laugh as the post progresses.

If they are interested in puppy farmig, they already know how to go about it as fully described so..why post? For attention :) :) :) :)

As my son would (very annoyingly) say to this........owned  :) :) :)