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Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / Looking For A Stud (locked)
- By Loraah [gb] Date 21.06.08 11:10 UTC Edited 21.06.08 12:33 UTC
Hello, I Have A 5 Year Old Bitch Who Has Had 1 Litter Befour 2 A Dakata, her family has alot of champions in it but shes jst a normal house pet. finding a stud for her is hard because shes a private dog and spending a night in a strangers house would'nt suit her as shes a mummys girl and hates being left alone it would probobly make her scared and she wouldnt mate. what can i do?
- By fecimus [gb] Date 21.06.08 11:30 UTC
Hello

could you not use the stud  dog that you used previously?

Also as you say she is a house pet and she has champion lines i presumes she is a pedigree that you brought from a breeder?
Have you spoken to her breeder as they may have a dog that you could use and may be willing to bring it to you..?
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 21.06.08 12:08 UTC
Why would she be left alone? You'd be with her, wouldn't you?
- By Lokis mum [gb] Date 21.06.08 12:20 UTC
From your post, am I correct in assuming that she had a litter of puppies before you owned her?

I don't recognise the breed (Dakata?) so I dont know the breed standards/health requirements of the breed, so my suggestions are very general and will apply to all breeds:-

Assuming that she is an excellent example of the breed, and has passed all the relevent health checks required by the BREED standard (not just a health check from your vet!)

1.     (a)     Why do you want to breed from her?    
        (b)     Are you intending to keep a puppy?  
        (c)     Have you got a genuine waiting list of people who are prepared to commit themselves to having a puppy?   
        (d)     Have you got approximately £1,000 "spare" in care of any veterinary emergencies that might occur during pregnancy, birth
                 and  rearing puppies (pregnancy and breeding aren't covered by your normal pet insurance)?  
        (e)    Have you got enough holiday left this year, to enable you to stay with the bitch and puppies for at least two weeks after the
                birth?
        (f)     If you have no experience in breeding, do you have a "mentor" who can come and help you, and who is knowledgeable enough
                 to advise you?

        If you can answer "yes" to all of these points, then:-

2.    Go back to the breeder of your bitch, who should know her lines.   Ask her if she knows a stud that will complement these lines.

3.     Go to breed shows and meet owners of dogs.

4.     Get a copy of The Book of the Bitch, and read it so that you know exactly what you would be letting yourself in for!

We all have to start somewhere, but the most important thing is to know that you are breeding from a really good bitch, mating to an excellent stud dog, and to be aware of the life-long responsibility that you will have for the puppies that result from this breeding.

Margot
- By ridgielover Date 21.06.08 12:23 UTC Edited 21.06.08 12:26 UTC
Hi Loraah

Most of us on this site have bitches who live the majority of their lives as normal house dogs, but go along to some shows.  And most of us wouldn't leave our bitches with someone else, other than a trusted friend known to the bitch. 

When I started out breeding, I got some knowledgeable people to assess my bitch to help me to decide if she was worthy of being bred from. I also spoke to the owner of the stud dog, as although she was well bred and carried good lines, the people who actually bred her weren't knowledgeable enough to help me to chose the best dog for her. I then went along to some shows to have a look at the dogs to see the type I liked.

Your best course of action would be to seek advice from someone knowledgeable (as already advised) - her breeders if they fit that criteria, or the owner of her sire, if she is, as you say, well bred.  There are lots of "stud dogs" out there, but you need to find the best one for your bitch.  As you've already bred a litter, I'm sure that you have already carried out the breeds' relevant health checks - otherwise you will find that reputable stud dog owners will not let you use their dogs.

Wishing you the best of luck
Carina
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 21.06.08 12:31 UTC Edited 21.06.08 12:37 UTC

>I don't recognise the breed (Dakata?)


Dakata is a dalmatian affix.

Loraah, you need to contact her breeders here and ask their advice. She has, of course, been BAER tested hasn't she?
- By Lokis mum [gb] Date 21.06.08 12:34 UTC
Oohh.........I thought I was having a senior moment and had forgotten the existence of a breed !
- By zarah Date 21.06.08 12:39 UTC
I thought the OP meant that she was breed to a Dakata stud dog, not that she's from the Dakata affix herself.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 21.06.08 12:51 UTC
You could be right ...

Loraah, I've PMed you. Click on 'Messages' at the top of the page to find it.
- By Loraah [gb] Date 22.06.08 10:01 UTC
The Dakata I Bread Her With B4 Has Passed Away. Yes I Have Bread Her B4 But Since The Loss Ov My Male Shes Been Weiry Of Humans.. No I Would Never Leve Her Alone On Her Own! But I Feel The Male Should Come To The Bitch. She Has 17 Champions On Her Papers From Her Dad 2 Her GGGParents. Yes I Do Want To Keep 1 Of Her Pups And Yes I Can Afford It I Have 3 Dogs Atm.
- By lumphy [gb] Date 22.06.08 10:14 UTC
Hi

you dont have to leave her over night in a strange place. You take her get her mated and then go back again for a repeat mating a couple of days later. Some people will leave the bitch for convinience but its totally up to you.

Some stud owners will come to you if you ask. When I was looking for a stud for my dog one of the owners offered to come to me if I covered her petrol.

I would however be worried about mating a bitch that is weiry of humans. Temprement is very important in a litter and i would not want to breed anything that could be passed on to the pups.
- By Isabel Date 22.06.08 10:14 UTC

> Shes Been Weiry Of Humans


I don't believe this is the correct temperament for this breed.  No bitch that does not have a sound temperament should be bred from as she may well pass this on to her offspring. 
Puppy purchasers will want to meet the bitch and when then note her unfriendliness, something far more people are aware to investigate these days, they may well reject your litter leaving you with possibly a large number unable to be placed.   Another thing to consider is, although you have the finances to keep 4 dogs I would not be surprised if the looming recession is not going to reflect on the number of people looking to buy a puppy, particularly in the larger breeds.
I think someone has already asked you about health testing, another thing that potential purchasers are far more aware of these days.
- By Loraah [gb] Date 22.06.08 11:03 UTC
Ok No Problem.
- By Loraah [gb] Date 22.06.08 11:05 UTC
when can i delete this forum?
- By lumphy [gb] Date 22.06.08 11:09 UTC
sorry why do you want to delete the forum are you not getting the replies you want to hear?

You dont have to delete anything just dont come back on again. If you mean the topic ask admin to close it for you. But again why would you want to do that we are only offering you advice.
- By Loraah [gb] Date 22.06.08 12:28 UTC
im taking your advice...

i gt an anser to my question so thers no reason for it to stay open.
- By Isabel Date 22.06.08 12:30 UTC
Threads are not normally deleted when people have gained the information they required because others may continue to benefit from the comments.
- By Loraah [gb] Date 22.06.08 13:47 UTC
k
- By ashleig08 [gb] Date 22.06.08 16:02 UTC
i think she dosnt like what has been said the same as many on here also to add to evryone else although i have only just had my first litter and am not an expert i would not breed from this bitch if she is scared of people i personally would not buy a puppy from someone if the bitch was anything less than friendly my bitch welcomes evryone and can sometimes get a bit anoying lol but buyers can see she has fantastic temprement and puppies and mum are always seen around both my kids as they are in the living room
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 22.06.08 17:02 UTC

>Shes Been Weiry Of Humans


This is totally the wrong temperament for a dalmatian - they're meant to be (according to the Breed Standard "Outgoing and friendly, not shy or hesitant, free from nervousness and aggression". Poor temperament can be inherited, so only animals which are completely sound mentally as well as physically should be bred from.

Bitches invariably travel to the stud dog for mating, not the other way around - and you would be expected to stay with her and hold her.

You never said whether she's been BAER tested? That's an absolute must before breeding any dalmatian.
- By Lokis mum [gb] Date 22.06.08 17:16 UTC
I hope I am reading Loraah's response correctly - I think she has taken our advice on board, and decided not to breed from this particular bitch ......if this is the case, well done, Loraah!

You came on, you asked for advice and we've given it  - enjoy your girl as a lovely house pet, and maybe, in the future, we'll have given you enough pointers for you to go on and find a really lovely outgoing girl and be able to enjoy breeding from her in the future!

Margot
- By Nova Date 23.06.08 05:42 UTC
Think the OP has said she has taken the advice given and will not be breeding the bitch again so although it is a good idea if this bitch has been health tested as advised for the breed it is not longer of interest to us if the bitch is not to be bred.

Perhaps the OP can manage to get a puppy of a more outgoing nature from a good breeder and that pup may help the older bitch to be a little less worried about strangers.
Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / Looking For A Stud (locked)

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