hi my staffy is 13weeks old now wen we 1st got her we put her in the crate at nite half bedding and half training pad as she was only 6weeks wen we got her. i do now no that it was way to young to get her at this age. but she is fine in there but now i have taken the pad away but she keeps weeing in there so i wash it every day but i was told that dogs dont foul there own areas but she is i was just needing some advice should i put the traning pad bac in there or should i leave it out because i dont want her to keep fouling in there. will she grow out of toileting in there? or how do i stop her from doing it? please help

The trouble is you have inadvertantly trained her that it is OK to go in the crate. It is the same with putting newspaper down at the back door for example, as many people do, all you are training is that it's OK to toilet indoors. The best way I've found for toilet training is to have the crate by the side of your bed and when your hear her moving during the night, get up and take her outside, even if it's 3 am! The same sort of thing during the day (although she won't be in the crate), as soon as she wakes, has played, just eaten etc. take her outside and give lots of praise when she performs in the correct place. If you give her a command, such as "be quick", she'll soon learn what she's supposed to do. Take her out often is the key. Good luck!

yer i no i did wrong the thing is she is down stairs at night she knows where to go to the toilet its just at nite in her crate she keeps doing it so im washing her bed all the time how can i stop that

If she must stay downstairs, the only option is for you to set an alarm and get up and take her out once or twice during the night, as you'll have no idea when she needs to go. Start by setting the alarm at 2am then 5am (assuming you got to bed about 11 and get up at 8 - adjust accordingly). If she is dry at 2, next day set the alarm for 3 until you're only going down once, then 4 etc. Eventually she'll go through the night. You may have to backtrack at some point if you get the timings wrong, it will be a bit of trial and error.

Hiya maybe you could try like the others have said, make sure she goes the toilet after meals and water, is she doing it on her bedding or not? I would try as already suggested keeping her by your bed and when you hear her moving about take her out, same as been said she thinks its ok its a case of perserverence i think.

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If you're around her all the time during the day and she is peeing ok at night on the puppy pad, start, as she gets older (and during the day) to move the puppy pad toward the backdoor and then eventually out of the door.  Overnight, let her pee on it.  She's a bubba still, but I'm afraid I'm not one who would have a pup or adult dog by my bed - that's my territory :-)
Also of course, still take her out regularly after meals and on waking.
I've crate trained both my staffords this way,and they have been fine.
They're not dirty creatures, so naturally don't like peeing on what they would consider their bedding area, but my two seem to have been pretty quick on the uptake.

What are you washing the pad with? It may be that her smell is still on it so she is remarking her territory.
I would say definately do the getting up in the night to let pup out for a wee. It is tiring but works effectively and for the sake of a few weeks with less sleep you will have a dry pup....far better in my opinion than a pup(groeing into a dog) that wees over everything.
Good luck

<...as she gets older (and during the day) to move the puppy pad toward the backdoor and then eventually out of the door.  Overnight, let her pee on it.>

By doing this all you are doing is saying to her it is OK to pee indoors/in the crate, when this is what you DON'T want.

We used puppy pads-one at backdoor and one by our bed for middle of night. Our pup stopped using them himself. At 4 and a half months he went through the night and during the day would wait for us at the back door. We would notice he wasn't in the same room as us and find him just sitting there. We still had the pads down, he just wouldn't use them.
He must firmly believe the garden is the only place to wee as he often wont 'go' on a walk but holds it til he gets in!!!

He is obviously an exception and not the rule :)

Our dog used to hold it in on walks, and then go rushing out to the garden bursting to go.
We had to actively train him to go on walks. We had used a command (hurry up), when he went in the garden, so after a long walk when he clearly needed to go, we'd stop still in a suitable place and say hurry up, until he would go, then lots of praise.

I used puppy pads for when we are out but she has only used them twice and that was when we first got her.  She went through the night after only about a week and woke me up when she wanted a wee. 

Like someone has already said by putting in a puppy pad in his crate you have trained him that it is ok to pee in your crate.  I would suggest taking the puppy pad out completely, add in new bedding and have him close by during the night and try the alarm that someone has suggested. 

<...as she gets older (and during the day) to move the puppy pad toward the backdoor and then eventually out of the door.  Overnight, let her pee on it.>

By doing this all you are doing is saying to her it is OK to pee indoors/in the crate, when this is what you DON'T want.

Well, I was just giving my opinion based on experiences with my two dogs.  I thought that was what this was about?
They have never peed inside the house, and were house trained pretty quickly.

I didn't mean to cause offence and didn't realise what I said would, I was just stating that allowing a dog to "go" indoors, whether it be on paper, pee pads or whatever is not what you want (toileting should be performed outside) and IMO it is better not to use these "aids".

sure, I agree Pedlee, with regard to aids. 
Perhaps it isn't always ideal, and I should have explained that although I did as I described above with both my dogs, it was only a matter of a couple of weeks before they didn't use the pads at all.  They 'went' on them for a short time whilst the pads were in the crate, but then most morning/evenings were dry.  They haven't peed in their crates since.  Of course you don't want to encourage the dogs to pee in the house or their beds, but if using these aids helps them to be house trained along the way, then that's the target hey?
What works for some, won't always work for others :-)

hi thanks for all the advise i will try wiv some new bedding and set an alarm at night hopefully it will help and she will stop. i have taken the pad out of crate now so hopefully she will stop.
oh and do u surgest that i dont give her any water before she goes to bed? if so what time should i take the bowl up?

Well good luck with that.
I'm afraid nothing interrupts my nights sleep! :-D

I took my puppy staff to bed with me and she had her dog bed next to me,I covered the floor with training pads gradually reducing them til I got to 1,by 3 months old my girl was dry all night I took her out at 11pm then in the morning at 7am. I had no problems at all I only close the crate door if Im going out but during the day she goes in there on her own because her beds in there

Not sure about anyone else, but my dogs don't have water through the night, when we go to bed, so do they with no water bowl in the bedroom.

My dogs always have access to water. Pups can dehydrate easily, especially if it's warm. Plus, for me personally being thirsty with no water is torture so I have bowls out all the time. I almost never have to let them out during the night and if I do it's for squitty bums not from drinking too much. Both of my dogs slept through the night or near enough by 16 weeks even with a drink before they went to bed.

I honestly do not torture my dogs.  Nobody dives into the water bowl in the morning and I've had dogs for over 20 yrs.  Don't get me wrong, if I thought they were thirsty, they'd get water through the night, but I've never needed to have a water bowl in our bedroom.

Sorry Sarah! I didn't mean it that way, nor was it directed at you. I have an obsession with having water at all times. I was saying it was torture to me (my OH thinks I'm weird) so I project those feelings onto my dogs. TBH even with a bowl of water in the room neither one of mine are usually bothered to get up in the night for a drink. It takes a spatula to get Milo out of bed in the morning. I'm sure you don't torture your dogs - unless they're very, very norty. ;-) I do worry about some puppies being kept in cages with no access for long periods of time, especially in warmer weather though. I'd guess most puppies eat dry complete as well so even more need for water. You're a much more experienced owner than me and know what your dogs' needs are. That comment was more for googlers who happen on the post and think that putting water up early is a good way to get a full nights sleep.

All my life the dogs have slept downstairs with water freely available 24/7, but because we were upstairs we've never known how frequently they drank during the night. For the past few months, however, we've had one who's developed mild SA sleeping upstairs with us, and it never occurred to me (slaps own head) to put a bowl of water down for her. The other night she woke me up by panting and was obviously very thirsty - so I've learned that, even if it's only needed one night a year, it's worth having water available just in case.

I've always provided fresh drinking water in every room for the dogs - I wouldn't want to wake up thirsty and be unable to get a drink so don't believe it's OK to put my dogs in that situation.

The last few weeks in both central and SW Scotland have been very warm and, because I'm still only half asleep in order to attend to my youngster's toilet needs, I've frequently wakened up to the sound of one of the dogs drinking.

regards, Teri

That's OK Lori.  I wish I could do the new smilies!!  I would have put a wink after the "I honestly do not torture my dogs" bit, it was meant v. tongue-in-cheek. 
Could be that they've never needed water 'cos we sleep with the window open all year round and don't have any heating on in the bedroom.  After reading JG and Teri's posts, it's got me thinking a bit!  Think I'll give it a try next hot night (wont' be tonight 'cos it's bloomin freezing here today!!) and see if they will drink through the night.

I have always left water for the dog at night - just in case, but actually as far as i know he doesn't touch it, it is always still full in the morning. When i go into the kitchen in the morning he is always in his bed where i left him at 'lights out', i call him out of his bed, and he always comes for a fuss, goes and takes a drink out of the bowl, then goes to the back door to go to wee.
On the odd occasion we have had him sleep in the same room as us i've never heard him get up to go and get a drink, either.
I still leave it though, just in case he gets thirsty in the night.