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Topic Dog Boards / Feeding / Pets at Home complete with gravy
- By clio1 [gb] Date 05.06.08 13:27 UTC
I have a Lab who is not keen on dry dog food, wet is too expensive so I have been adding a little Nature diet/Butchers/chappie  with hot water to make gravy and swishing it all around, which he will eat quite readily.   I saw in PAH today that they have a complete dry that you add water to to make its own gravy.  It costs £28.99 so is not cheap and is sold with their other range in the silver bags. Has anyone tried this?  It might be good for dogs who are a bit fussy and save all the mixing of wet with dry.
- By Cairnmania [gb] Date 06.06.08 13:15 UTC
No.  But I recall years ago (in the US) there was a cheap supermarket food that made it's own "gravy" when you added water to the dry kibbles.  It was called Gravy Train.  It was vile and certainly did not do much to entice my picky eater at the time.

I would stick with your current approach if it works.
- By dvnbiker [gb] Date 09.06.08 10:42 UTC
I think Bakers have just started to do a gravy one as well again not something my dogs will ever touch
- By honeyxebony [gb] Date 09.06.08 13:32 UTC
We tried the bakers and our dog adore it, my 2 wont eat dry food for breakfast or tea but they love bakers and frolic. they are very fussy dogs lol
- By clio1 [gb] Date 09.06.08 15:50 UTC
I have since found the skinners maintenance which I was looking for originally.   I know this suits the dogs, is low protein 18%, no nasty additives, is very economical and is british.  With a tiny bit of tinned and some hot water sloshed round,  they love it!
- By Astarte Date 09.06.08 16:16 UTC
you could make your own stock to add to it
- By jackson [gb] Date 09.06.08 16:28 UTC
We tried the bakers and our dog adore it, my 2 wont eat dry food for breakfast or tea but they love bakers and frolic. they are very fussy dogs lol

A bit like children not eating their meat an dtwo veg. but loving Macdonalds, IMO. :-)

Bakers is somthing like about 4% meat, I can't even find the ingredients listed on their website.
- By charlie72 [gb] Date 09.06.08 18:31 UTC
Bakers ingredients are listed here along with a review that makes interesting reading..

http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews/showproduct.php?product=424&cat=7
- By Cairnmania [gb] Date 10.06.08 07:52 UTC
Wow!  It has been years since I read the ingredient labels on supermarket-type dog foods and I have to say I am SHOCKED.  

No offense meant, but I find it hard to understand why anyone would feed their dogs that crap.  There is much better food available at the same cost to feed.

Dogs do love this stuff; notice the sugar on the ingredient lists.  MacDonalds for dogs indeed - once in a while okay, but not as a steady diet.
- By calmstorm Date 10.06.08 09:42 UTC
Well, according to this site, (re link posted link to food)I'm feeding rubbish (Arden Grange and CSJ) and I can't find any eaisily available to buy dry food in this country they recommend. mmmm. Bad dog owner then :(
- By charlie72 [gb] Date 10.06.08 09:50 UTC
Of the 6 star foods they recommend only one is available(as far as I know) here,I tried it on my two and it was far too rich.The food I feed now they only give two stars but it suits them much better.I prefer to read the ingredients and make up my own mind,that site is useful for listing ingredients if nothing else :)
- By dvnbiker [gb] Date 10.06.08 14:41 UTC
You and me both, the one I feed Genesis is only a 2 star whcih I am rather shocked at especially as we have never had so many comments on how good the dogs are looking. 
- By Cairnmania [gb] Date 10.06.08 15:00 UTC
Never mind the rating site and the stars - what I was shocked about was the ingredient list.  So I checked on the Baker's site to see if anything had changed, http://www.bakerscomplete.co.uk/complete/products/adult_main.asphere's below is what is included in the Adult Lamb and Rice with Country Vegetables:

Ingredients
Cereals (minimum 4% rice in the green and orange kernels), Meat and animal derivatives (Minimum 4% fresh meat in the soft moist kernel, minimum 4% lamb in the natural and brown kernels), Vegetable protein extracts, Oils and fats, Derivatives of vegetable origin (0.5% beet pulp in the natural and brown kernels), Various sugars, Minerals, Vegetables (minimum 4% vegetables in the green and orange kernels). With antioxidants, coloured with and preserved with EC additives.

It uses artificial preservatives and colours, sugars, there is more sugar in it than there are vegetables (excluding the "vegetable protein extracts"), it has an unknown amount of fresh meat - all we know there is a minimum of 4% fresh meat + derivatives (perhaps some of it is even lamb) - and the main ingredient is cereal; an unknown portion of which is rice - the rest could be sawdust (or the equivalent)   That's what I was shocked about.

It is rubbish.
- By dvnbiker [gb] Date 10.06.08 15:10 UTC
scary isnt it although I have a confession to make in that my first bc was fed on it until I found out more about nutrition etc.  now the dogs eat better than I do. LOL
- By Pugnacious [gb] Date 19.06.08 09:00 UTC
I would continue what you are doing. Making your own stock with preparations for humans is a no no due to the very high sodium content, but traditional stock, as in the juices made by simmering meat/bones is fine. I'm a bit dubious about all these foods springing up which have things added to them to make them more palatable. I know it isn't for everyone, but give your lab a bowl of green tripe or other raw meat and just watch him eat. At 30p per lb from www.daf-petfood.co.uk, that has to be comparable to dry feeding and far more enjoyable. 
- By bilbobaggins [gb] Date 19.06.08 09:33 UTC Edited 19.06.08 09:39 UTC
We forgot to order our dalmatians food so over the weekend we used Bakers. We had been given a free sample box. My god my lovely calm dalmatian (yes calm), was like a banshiee. He was awful humping cushions, barking at everything that moved outside the house and all sorts. His skin flared up as well.  The scary thing it was almost an instant reaction. I have absolutley no doubt the food  caused it....
Topic Dog Boards / Feeding / Pets at Home complete with gravy

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