Seems to be so much easier when it gets warmer (or is it the extra daylight?).  didn't even eat all my points yesterday, as I wasn't hungry so have carried them over.

Yes, I'm struggling to eat my points allowance, and I'm only allowed 20, without activity points

Hey it's being a good time all around, it's good when you dont use up your points cause then you can treat yourself without feeling guilty.
Today I ate a large and very jammy doughnut......it was my treat for succeeding....
Karen :)

Well done everyone!!

I am back on the wagon (lol), not following ww or any particular diet plan just eating healthy foods!

Fingers crossed, feeling much more motivated now the house is nearly sorted! :-)

Yep I am on 20 too.

Just went on NHS direct, and calculated my BMI, it says: Your BMI is 33.5
If your BMI is between 30 and 39.9 you're obese.  Oh dear, takes the shine off a bit, LOL

I would have to get down to 12st 6lb (BMI is 29.5) before I would be merely: over the ideal weight for my height (If BMI is between 25 and 29.9) .

I'm hoping my BMI will be 26 on tuesday evening, it's 27 at the moment and I need to lose 1lb for it to go 26.................I was a BMI of 31

Stick with it Barbara, we'll get there in the end :-)

Good Luck :)

Well I lost the 1lb needed for a BMI of 26..................so now need to lose 8lbs I think to make it a healthy 25 :-D

(ideally, I'd like it to be a BMI of 22 or thereabouts!)

Well I have been doing really well, eating healthy meals and only snacks have been fruit or vegetable sticks....most of all I haven't touched a chocolate bar!!!!

I am an all or nothing kinda girl! :-)

I am 17st 12 but I was 18.10, 3 weeks ago. I have a bad knee that needs an op so I have to get to 14st 8 to have the op. So its put up and shut up now. Realsitically I need about 6 stone off but i have almost done the first stone. My OH got me a step counter, you have to do 10,000 steps a day and I have worked out how far that is, my CS is helping with a walk from work 3.5 miles and am one of about 2 miles plus round and round the office.
I have cut, cake, chocolate, bread, nuts crisps and do calorie count as far as i can. I was never really thin a good size 14 at about age 16 so if i could get into a size 16 I will be happy. Then (horrors) I may consider a tummy tuck, I never got over a 10lb 9oz baby boy (he's 6'5" now!!).
I would not have a gastric band, but I would consider getting rid of the tummy flab if i have to. I always said i wouldn't but it has crossed my mind recently. I may chicken out but i would like to wear a pair of jeans again.

12 lbs in 3 weeks.................that's going some! Well done. If you get stuck, join Weight Watchers, it's brilliant...........no food not allowed ;-) and it really helps with portion control...

Well on Friday my morning weight was 13st 11lbs, 3lb this week, 41lb since new year.  Have had a busy weekend and stepped on the scales this morning and they said 13st 8lb, but bet it is just a fluke and maybe it wil be that by Friday.

Excellent Barbara, I'm really pleased for you.........you must feel so motivated by those results :-)

Starting again tomorrow because I've been off track for a while and I'm 11stone 12 again so the exercising and eating better begins in the morning.  Off to my mum and dad's now for my last big tea :)

Fantastic, stay positive.....the last two weeks of mine it was 3lb each week....am sure it's positvity along with activity.

Keep going
Karen :)

I am finding that I am wanting to go out longer on walks with the dogs, jsut because I feel like it, and the feet have stopped hurting.

Another 3 1/2 lb and I will be half way to the 10st 5lb I would be happy with (actually anything under 11stone would do)..

I keep on walking and OH got me a step counter so i know I must do 10,000 per day or 6 miles for real people. I do about 3,500 three times around the local park am with Whistler, then all day puts it at around 5,000. Its about 4,900 - 5,000 around the block and water meadows near home so i am at 10,000 a day. Weekends is a lot more with a lot more time and both dogs. My OH walks Jake BC in and out of work so thats about 12,000 steps so he is fine and we both walk at weekends.
My CS has taken to swimming like a spaniel to water and he looks so cute with his ears floating along, its great to watch. I think myself lucky to have the river itchen so close and ducks, salmon etc...  Never catch anything but thats half the fun. The other laugh is watching the local swans get huffy, they move so fast but Whistler keeps his beady eye on them, he once went up to chase one and it turned on him, didn't know he could run that quick!!!
Its all good exercise for me, and hopefully I will lose a stone by next week end.

Lost another 3lbs this week!!! so now I have reached the 2 stone barrier!..........another 1 and a half stone to go!

Thats a milestone!
Keep thinking positively.........you are doing so well!

Karen :)

Fantastic Jolene I wish I was as far as you. I am putting £1's away as well so when I lose 1lb, I am contributing towards some new clothes which I will hopefully get in a year or so!!!!!! Makes me feel ever more postitive.

What a brilliant idea.  Even better would be to get someone else to sponsor you per pound loss for a new wardrobe.

Funny enough I have known people in the past be sponsored to slim for charity.

Ooh I wonder if I could get my nagging Dad and various others who have none to gently told me to loose weight would be Happy to put their money where their mouth is?????

Last year I set up a swear box in my office (we are all builders) we got £175 and donated it to tourettes!! we always collect for some thing on a bad day someone would put in £5 and let rip...

This will not go down too well I know but its true.  People who are obese eat too much and do not exercise enough.  There is no other excuse! 

For gods sake we have an obesity Epidemic in our country.  I have lost count of the obese people and kids I have seen wobbling around the local supermarket, most of their trollies filled with processed foods, full fat soft drinks, cheese, pizza - and they think this is OK????  You have Obese Mum and Dad waddling around with the kids following, it is enough to make you sick.

We did not have this problem years ago yet we do now. Simple answer too much food and not enough exercise.  Come on you fatties get of your arses and loose some weight.  I begrudge paying for single mums and people on benefit and I DO NOT want to pay for the fatties  with their so called health problems.

Editied to add off to bed now but I expect a backlash from the 'larger' people.  Come on Step to it!!!!

>People who are obese eat too much and do not exercise enough.  There is no other excuse! 

From one of those lard arses!..............on the whole, I agree with you :-D ...('cept I haven't been obese, just fat LOL)

Was that really necessary, FooFoo?
Of course you have your facts right. Don't think anyone will argue that.
But this thread is by people who really try to loose weight. And make a good job of it as well, it seems :-p
Well done every one of you!
I find your response to that negative and not at all supportive.
Karen
By the way, my BMI is 18,2

was just thinking the same thing Karen...........I could understand the negativity if we were a bunch of people who were doing nothing about our predicament ...

Before I had my children I was always very slim and admit to having a similar attitude but once you have put on weight you realise that it takes time and effort to lose it. Its far easier (too easy) to gain weight than it is to lose it. You are right about the childhood obesity epidemic and that is very sad. Funny that I make a conscious effort to ensure my children don't have sweets or crisps or processed meals and have cooked their meals from scratch (with the help of recipe books) since the day they were weaned. I agree that people who are overweight and don't care yet suffer more health problems are a drain on the medical profession but lets have some compassion for the people who are trying :-)

Actually i think you are right my doctor says losing weight is easy just put less in your mouth.
I have no excuse for being heavy just lack of exercise, but if FooFoo ends up with cancer and is on drugs every day which causes excess weight, plus arthiritic knees its hard - Im not looking for a handout, rather a hand up!
But as I am private medical and put about £2000 a month in NI off my wages and do a 50 hour plus week, the less than sympathetic post will be filed where all other comments are down the loo.

I suggest that eating iexcessivly is not really the cause of the problem so much as eating the wrong things.
However foo foo, is it as bad as bad manners and rudeness? I find that quite objectionable too.

Karen

Good job she doesn't work for any of the large weight loss companies LOL, could you imagine having her as a leader LOL

Lol, Do any of you watch that comedy show with David Walliams? I can't think what it is called but they have a section and  think its called fatclub or something and she is soooo rude to the members!

Yes, that does spring to mind...............isn't "she" called Sandra? (is it Little Britain?)

>People who are obese eat too much and do not exercise enough. There is no other excuse!

& your medical qualification for being able to make this statement is ????????

There are treatable & untreatable medical conditions that cause obesity-there is also fledgling genetic research that indicates that obesity can be genetically influenced-but apparently you know better than the researchers doing the genetic studies

There were always obese people & children(even during WW II when food was severely rationed) & always have been, however the media & Internet have more access to "reveal"this "new"phenomenon.

Yes some obese people over eat & under exercise, however if you look at certain sporting activities(shot putting comes to mind)the athletes would be regarded as obese in normal life yet weight train etc far more than any"average"person does so can hardly because they don't exercise enough

I presume you have a svelte figure, eat healthily & do masses of physical exercise

As to the diatribe on single parents & people on benefits-you obviously know b*gg*r all about the majority, most single parents are not youngsters, they are parents who have been in a long term relationship that has failed(not necessarily unmarried either)& people on benefit like myself who have a mental illness brought on initially by my work(worked for same employer for over 30 years as a single person paying the highest taxes going etc)& secondly by my home circumstances as well as those with debilitating illnesses.

I hope to doG that you are never ill, never become unemployed, never have a relationship breakdown when you have dependant children & finally never get old & end up on retirement pension(which is a benefit BTW)

I begrudge paying for single mums and people on benefit

Well, I hope you never find yourself widowed or divorced with childen, I hope you never have the pain of an abusive husband/wife you leave for safety of yourself and your children, I hope you never have a daughter (who shoulders most of the responsibility for life) who finds herself pregnant without a father or divorced/widowed herself. By lumping the benefit cheats who do have children for the cash and homes they produce, with the many genuine cases of need out there, to which we all pay towards, you are leaving the bounds of obesity and making totally uncalled for comments on people who have a genuine need. For which you deserve to be slated.

and I DO NOT want to pay for the fatties  with their so called health problems.

Unless you are actually someones GP or consultant then you are not in any position to judge what is or is not a health problem leading to obesity. may you never be disabled, may you never have to live with the crippling pains of rumatoid arthritis (sp) or osteo arthritis. may you never need a hip or knee op, or medication that gives you a weight gain, or suffer with a thyroid problem. However, if you did, and it can happen to anyone of any size or fitness level then you may rethink your totally unkind words.

There is one thing saying people eat the wrong foods, don't exercise enough, and I would in many cases agree with you, but its a totally different subject to slate people worse off than yourself, medically or that find themselves in a situation where they need to live on benefits. totally cruel and unwarrented comments, and nothing to do with the thread about weight loss.

Yes, that does spring to mind...............isn't "she" called Sandra? (is it Little Britain?)

yep. Little Britain, and it has me in stitches! specially the one when they are out for their meal, and Sandra won't let them eat anything, yet scoffs cream cakes under the table...:) :)

>> People who are obese eat too much and do not exercise enough.  There is no other excuse! 
> From one of those lard arses!..............on the whole, I agree with you :-D ...('cept I haven't been obese, just fat LOL)

I would like to qualify that a little.  Of course weight is gained when you eat more than you need in energy.

I put on 6 1/2 stone over 3 1/2 years.

Based on the fact that 3500 calories equals a pound of fat gained or lost I calculated that my over eating averaged out at 200 calories a day.

That is about 2 slices of thick sliced bread, or 2 1/2 chocolate biscuits, an eccles cake, 1/3rd of an individual Pork pie etc.

I wouldn't say that is huge over eating as one imagines people must be doing, though I expect a lot of people over eat occasionally and try and be more moderate at other times.

Those whose appetite and bodily needs are very much in tune are the ones lucky enough to stay slim without too much thinking.

My step mother is my age, and always said she couldn't understand how anyone over ate and got fat.  She found it almost impossible to gain weight if she had been unwell etc.  She had a hysterectomy 18 months ago, ans was shocked to find she was gaining weight because their appetite and metabolism were now out of sync.

She is on a diet for the first time in her life, needing to loose about a Stone.

That is interesting about 3500 calories for each 1lb lost, I didn't know that.  It certainly puts things into context.

From reading people's progress may I say you are all doing a fab job.  Keep it up! 

I am just trying to lose a stone, so I can fit back in my size 10 jeans, which I've not been able to get in for too long now.  It is proving much more difficult than I imagined it would be.  I eat healthy sensible portions and exercise a lot but am finding it tough to shift the weight.  I will perserve though!!

> Simple answer too much food and not enough exercise.  Come on you fatties get of your arses and loose some weight.  I begrudge paying for single mums and people on benefit and I DO NOT want to pay for the fatties  with their so called health problems

I think you have failed to realise this thread is about those of us who are doing exactly that.  Most of us have dogs to walk so lack of excersise I think is not the problem.

Well fortunately I have as yet not got any health problems other than aching feet until I lost some of the weight, in fact I have trouble with low blood pressure.

I do think food manufacturers need to shoulder some of the blame with all the hidden fat, and especially sugar in so many foods.  Baked Beans for instance, Nice healthy meal with a Jacket potato, but why so much sugar.  How many of us have time to make our own.

There needs to be a concerted effort by manufacturers to gradually wan the public off so much fat, sugar and salt in prepared foods.  Yes we could cook from scratch, but with the pace of life some convenience food is needed.

I am pleased to see better food labelling, though some things are still not labelled.  I really fancied some Potato scones/cakes in Iceland like they have in Ireland, but there was no nutritional info on the packet, so I didn't get them.

Ditto that. Sometimes when you read the packets your amazed.

I had a we fad of picking up a small 25p pack of foam gums  think they are tooth brushes and teeth. Tiny wee bag with abotu 10-15 sweets  140 calories.   I now avoid that isle. :-)

i have lost 6 stone over 3 years and still losing, i watch my portion sizes i do not count calories but i do not eat what i call crap any more, i eat healthy, but a health trainer i know told me that even walking the dogs which was helping losing the weight, your body gets used to that type of exercise so you need to vary your exercise, so now i do walking, and swimming, bike riding, horse riding, dog agility,and i have seen the difference it has made to my weight loss,i am losing the weight for myself and no one else i am over 40 now and was fed up being fat, and that was because i was eating the wrong food, and not taking enough exercise but now from a size 20 jeans to a 14/16 jeans and i feel good about myself
carolann

Fantastic, well done, I read a previous post that says a hystorectomy also makes you put on weight I did not realise that it did? I did remember when I had mine for cancer before I was 40 I hoped i would lose weight, I was so disappointed when they said it weighed about 1 oz!! Any way I am trying really hard to lose the weight now, it sort of snuck up on me over the past 4 yaers, but i am determined to keep fit as it will assist both my knees and my self value.
I have two sone one of which is 6'5" and a mountain bike fiend so really fit. The second is 6'3" and about 10.5 stone so a bean pole. So fat adults do not always mean fat kids!!
I also was a single parent for a few years and still held down a full time job thatnks to an extended family. I think FooFoo needs to stop generalising. I have never had any type of social security, neither have my kids. But I do have a great doctor he says eat less, so thats what we are doing, my hubby walks at least 12 miles a day with his BC and we are both over weight he is not as bad as me. Still we are all entitled to our views, but i think its sad when people attack people they do not know.

Has anyone tried the soup and fruit diet and if so did it work ie; did the weight stay off? My daughter in law has just given me a copy but must admit that I'm a bit dubious about trying it myself.

FooFoo with comments like that you should do well in the field of work that it looks as though you are interested in journalism!  Agree with you regarding the lazy so and so's etc. that we have to pay for.

I was a right skinny thing up until my late 20's.  So skinny that a works nurse thought that I was anorexic.  All of a sudden when I actually stopped eating my 3 large meals a day I started putting weight on.  I'm now just under 12 stone, though most people think I'm a lot thinner.

I admit I don't exercise enough as that's my real downfall but I really don't eat that much.  I am not a biscuit, cake, chocolate fan etc.

Once you have got to the overweight stage, it is so hard to get back down and life changes and circumstances don't help either.  My hubby had a breakdown last year and I also have an autistic son and the weight has just piled on, now things have calmed down again I think I am doing very well on losing 25lb OK it may have taken 5 months but now its going in teh right direction.  Please don't judge everyone the same.  Also to eat healthy it does actually cost more than eating junk even my GP agrees with that and when you are on low salary etc you buy what you can.

Linda

It is so easy to put on weight.  I was always underweight until my second child, then started putting it on.  I managed to lose 2 stone by just slightly increasing my exercise (walked the kids to school).  But the main thing that helped shed the lumps, was not eating anything after 5 pm.  Obviously drinks are fine, and I really looked forward to a hot choc about 9, and during the day eat what you like, but try and keep it healthy.  I also had a choc bar or whatever after lunch, and then a light meal about 4.30.  After the first week or so, your body gets used to it and you're not exactly depriving yourself - just changing the times.

The odd meal out in the evening was OK (just to kick start metabolism again) but I'd find that I couldn't finish the meal anyway.

Foo Foo, you shouldn't judge people.  Did you post that just to annoy people and have something to write about?  Surely a good journalist would use their (uh hum) intellect, instead of causing offence. 

One could say that a name like Pheona, instead of Fiona, is a bit pretentious, but I say live and let live (pH determines the level of acid doesn't it?)

Debussy..........you just managed to raise your eyebrows, to cause a ripple, instead of your voice...............quite a feat, you certainly have a way with words!!!!

Karen ;)

> One could say that a name like Pheona, instead of Fiona, is a bit pretentious, but I say live and let live (pH determines the level of acid doesn't it?)

Loved your little 'word painting' there Debussy. Perhaps it is you who is the more talented writer :-) Certainly your writing style makes far more enjoyable reading than Pheona's.  

I havent taken part in this post at all so far but just wanted to say well done to those who are losing weight. However, do you not think its more important to be fit & healthy than slim....??
I know people who are size 16-18 & incredibly fit, also know size 8 women who are very unhealthy & unfit. Being slim is an image thing but being fit and healthy is far more beneficial in the long run to how you look. :-)

I notice FOOFOO is a journalist/writer I think this particular comment was made to fire people up and get a reaction.

Well done to all those who are doing thier hardest to loose weight .

Roni

A friend of mine has recently had to give up a life time of playing sport. She eats a healthy diet but the weight is piling on. We were looking at some of the online slimming clubs. Fancy paying all that money to be told what she already knows, overfill the vessel it overflows! Stopping it is another thing. The only solution seems to be lots of exercise. We wanted to find something  kind to her poor knees and she  could really enjoy.Our research told us that ,apparently, 20 mins of sex is as good as a three mile run and the hormones released are good for your skin etc !
We have decided that we will start our own club the only ingredients needed is 3 virile men...EACH !!

Any one else want to join LOL