i can,t believe it we mated our bitch 5 weeks ago and have had problems with her spot bleeding ever since shes had 3 scans been on marbesol 1 week ago we are told she is pregnant but they want to rescan f last friday to make sure everything ok go back this week no more pups appears she has reobsorbed yesterday morning she running around playing and last night she was dead i cant think straight i keep thinking what if if i hadn,t had mated her would it have happened vet not sure why she died it may have been a pyo but she said she had a smeell that was like a gastric problem the question is do i have a post mortem done i don,t know what to do dont know if i want her cut about she was only 3 and the most sweetest thing you could wish for she is a giant breed with the most fantastic temperament i cant get my head round not having her any more it all seems like a terrible joke how can she be playing yesterday morning and dead this morning 

How awful.  I just can't imagine it.  So sorry this has happened.  Perhaps a pm will at least put your mind at rest.  hugs x

I am so sorry for what has happened :( how awful for you.

If she was mine I think I would want to know why this has happened.

OMG im sat here opened mouthed.............what a shock and such a sad loss for you. I cannot imagine what you must be going through. (our 1st dog died due to old age so we had some time to get use to it) I know its hard but try not to feel guilty, she wasnt in any pain and was quite happy from what you have said. My initial response would be not to do post mortem  but i know that once the shock has gone i would want to know what happened.
Sending you hugs and thinking of you at this difficult time x

So sorry. such a horrible shock. :-(  ((((hugs))))

Hi Carole,
I really feel for you. If you can afford a post morem done, I would want to know. Was it an infection, Heart?
It might not have made any diffrence if you had mated her or not.
With out knowing you will always wonder.
Thinking of you.

Denese

I cannot imagine how you are feeling , my thoughts are with you . Have a think about the most mortem once you have got over the shock .xx

I am so so so very sorry.  Such a shock, I can barely believe it myself!  :(

I'm so sorry to hear this Carole.  ((((hugs)))) to you and your family.

i would also get a PM as I would be torturing myself for ever about what might have been and what I could have done but a PM might give you answers to put your mind at rest.  What a horrible situation for you all.  Run free poochy xx

How heartbreaking for you.

Like others I would want to know why. I'd always be asking myself what went wrong.

{{{{{hugs}}}}}

I am so sorry for your loss I had to read your post 3 times before it sunk in .
I would want to know why but then would have to think.... what difference would it make if it is going to upset you even more it wont bring her back and also as she didnt have any puppies you dont have to worry about any hereditary problems occuring , did she just collapse I would imagine it was a heart attack but thats just my opinion of course, this may of happened whether you mated her or not so dont beat yourself up.

I really feel for you ...take care~

Roni

i am so so sorry to hear of your loss i don't know what i would do regarding PM but i would have thought if it was a pyo she would have been very ill in the morning and not wanting to play but as i do not have any experience of a pyo i could be wrong.

(((hugs))) my thought are with you at this terrible time.

So very sorry Carole,

Completley unexpected death is so hard to take in, and understand.

Personaly I would need the post mortem, to know why she died and also in your case to take away the questions, if you don't have it done you will spend your whole life wondering, why, how, did you miss the signs? You need answers it will help with closure.

So very sorry, you must be totally devastated, my thoughts are with you.

thanks for all your kind wishes have spoken to vet again this morning and have decided to have post mortem done it cant be done until tomorrow afternoon as my baby has been in the freezer and needs to thaw the more its playing around in my mind the more i need to know your all right will let you all know what happens

Carole,Your Poor Baby Girl, I'm so sorry, life just is not fair! Hugs

Love Lois xxx

Carole, I am so sorry to hear this tragic news. My thoughts are with you x

Carole I'm sending you (((hugs))

So sorry to hear about your girl.

Claire

So very sorry to hear this awful news x

I am so sorry, what an awful shock. :( :(

Very very sorry to hear your girl has gone Carole,
I, think  you are wise to  have the PM done  hopefully you will have some answers.
Sending you lots of love.
Sharon

I am so sorry, what a heartbreaking thing to happen.

cant find right words to say how awful for you

I can't imagine how you must be feeling. So so sorry. My thoughts are with you.
jane

So sorry :(

carole i'm so so sorry.

Carole...I am so sorry for your loss. It must have been a terrible shock. Loosing a much loved pet at any time is tragic . You have bee on an emotional roller coaster and you must feel exhausted with it all.

You may find out that the puppies where nothing to do with her sudden parting. It maybe just one of those things. What ever you do about the postmortem will be/must be the right decision for you.

Take Care

Very sorry to read of your sad loss.

Carol, I'm so sorry - what an awful shock. It's always heartbreaking to lose someone you love but when it's so sudden it makes it even harder somehow.
Karen

I'm so so sorry to hear such sad news. You must be devastated to loose your precious friend.

What ever the PM results show, you mustn't blame yourself. It's a natural think for a dog to be mated, I'm sure you did it for all the right reasons and she was at the best age to have a first litter. Unfortunately. sometimes these things just happen, and usually to the people that deserve it least.

Her life might have been cut short, but I'm sure she had a lovely time while she was living with you.

Oh Carole, I am so sorry to hear your tragic news about your poor girl, thinking of you.....

Hayley

I am so sorry to hear this, my heart goes out to you. It is terrible whenever we lose one of our dogs, but to lose one so suddenly and so young is unbearable painful. Nothing will bring your girl back, but I do think the pm is a good idea. You shouldn't feel guilty about mating her, but if the pm rules out a link with the mating, you won't always feel that if you hadn't mated her, she would still be with you. If there is a link, you had no idea this would happen, it is just a tragic event that no-one could foresee.

Carole,

What can I say, no words on earth will help or bring back your princess. Hand on heart I'm so so sorry to here you lost your little girl.

Run free in Rainbow Bridge sweet hart, run free.

i really am so sorry carole, i really don't know what to say but my thoughts are with you and im sorry to hear such sad news
marie x

Carole, my heart goes out to you.  I am so very,very sorry to hear of your loss.  Whatever the outcome of a PM I don't think you should blame it on mating up a perfectly healthy young bitch.  There is no way any of us can make things better for you, but we do all feel for your tragic loss.  {{{{ HUGS }}}}  Jean

Just to say how sorry hearing what has happened to you,
my heart goes out to you..

Well lets hope you can get some answers to your girls sudden untimely death.
Your being very brave xx

Really sorry to hear this :-(

i,d just like to say thank you for all your kind words the pm was done this afternoon and my baby had a ruptured uterus the vet said even if she had been there earlier they would have been unable to do anything if they had oppersted they would have just closed her back up and she would have needed a specialist but by the time that would have happened she wouldnt of made it she said she has only seen this twice before and both dogs were brought in already dead to the surgery they have discussed amongst themselves would they have treated her any differently at the surgery as she was only scanned on friday evening and have said they wouldnt have i am so glad ive had the pm because like all good advice given i would have always wondered we had mated her before which also never resulted in any puppies i guess it was never meant to be i do have another bitch who was also mated and she is due on monday from first mating i am so worried now i just want it all over . we did choose to mate both dogs as we have been unable to get her pregnant and i desperately want to keep a puppy

I'm so sorry to read your post, sending you lots of kind thoughts

What tragic news and I am so sorry, your poor girl, run free xx

What a terrible shock for you. At least you know there was nothing you could have done differently. Best of luck with your other bitch.