has anyone sold there puppys on line before, im interested to know which sites are the best and if its a good idea to actually sell online

sami x

It depends on what you mean, if you mean advertise the availability of pups on-line then this is no different to any other advertising medium.

It is the Vetting of prospective owners, not where they made contact from that is the critical issue.

I have my own website and have various breeder listings on doggy sites, as does our breed club, as a result first contact is often through email.

yeah to sell them on line, i was going to go for the old fashioned method (newspaper) but wanted to know what people thought about advertising them for sale on line,

Selling on-line suggestive of taking an order and payment and sending out a product, advertising on-line is asking people to contact you for more information so they can be considered and vetted.

thats what i meant, iv had very little sleep so my words are confusing lol

I think the net is better than the newspapers. Like Barbara said the Vetting is the most important. Beware of puppy farmers they can be very convincing, they can get some one eles to buy the puppy for them. If you decide to choose the news paper "Dog World". Or try the KC web site.

Denese

thanks denese,

sami

I have put our pups "online" but have stated that we will be useing our disgression when it comes to homeing our Babies and will only go to people with knowledge of the breed.
We did turn someone down on our previous litter 3 years ago as we didnt feel it was in pups best interest to be with them

which site do you use for this then, i have no clue, first timer lol

I used the Kennel Club puppy list to advertise my litter. The people I got thru this seemed to be more knowledgeable about my breed and I homed the 2 available pups this way.

brilliant thankyou

you will reach a much wider audience online and I would also recomend using the kennel club as it is where many of the posters on here would recommend you look when looking for a pup.   it might also be worth getting in touch with the secretary of your breed club in your area and s/he could send people your way. If you do get the pups on the KC list you could put this on your internet advert which would signify to me that you are not a byb.

I've been looking online for a bull terrier for someone and have taken more interest in the ads that have a link to the people's website whether it is their kennel one for their affix or a personal one.  It gives away lots of clues about the type of person they are ;)  3 lines in a newspaper or online ad doesn't give away as much as a webpage where you can see where the pups have been brought up etc.

Just my thoughts about where I would look as I have never bred a litter.  I have been looking on sites like preloved and epupz and sun local etc and they all seem to have the same litters on them all.  I don't know if they are linked or if people advertise themselves on them all.  HTH

Far better to advertise that you are planning a litter so that you have a waiting list of people who will wait for a puppy from a planned litter than to advertise once the puppies are on the ground!

Of course, there will always be the occasion when you have people waiting who want bitch puppies and you have dogs (or the other way around) - but if you liaise with your breed club's puppy list co-ordinator, you may find people there who have been on someone's list and been disappointed because their planned litter has turned out the wrong way round too.

I'm far happier to let a puppy go to a family that have planned on adding a pup to their family rather than to a family that have just seen them advertised as "ready to go".

Margot

Yes I always advertise as planned. But this time round I should be ok as I have a couple of definates from the last waiting list (they have waaay more patience than the majority of potential puppy owners out there), plus the fact that two will be retained by me.

I've got a large waiting list on standby in case of a few extra pups, though if the 'mother/daughter having similar sized litter' theory works out with her, she will probably only have a few.

Best to be prepared than leave it till the last minute!

too late, weve already got them, however if i put them on now then i still have 7/8weeks left

Well, as you have listed "breeding dogs" as your hobby, might I suggest that next time you plan things out?

well i thought i had, breeding dogs is a new hobby, otherwise i dont have one, just work, to be honest everything else was planned out,

On the rare occasions that we have had a litter of puppies, we have planned carefully for them, and that has included knowing where they will be living before they are born.   We put such love and care into puppies that surely their forever homes should be foremost in our minds - to worry about where they will be going after they are born takes some of the gilt off the gingerbread!

deansami i'm not meaning to be harsh or start a fight etc but i assume that some of the pups were booked before the mating?

For goodness sake Lokis mum the OP asked for advice about advertising puppies online.....not to be ridiculed about NOT planning where her puppies are going to live before they are born. This is her first litter, she is asking all the right questions and getting some very good advice from most people on here.  Please dont spoil what is an extremely exciting, stressful and tiring time for her with comments that are not required.

But if people arnt told the way things SHOULD be done how are they to ever learn the RIGHT way to do it, so mistakes arnt made next time???
Lea :)

I am not ridiculing deansami - what I am trying to do is to point out that as well as ensuring that we choose the best possible dogs to breed from, we have a responsibility to the puppies that we breed is that they go to the best possible homes.

If as deansami says, she wishes to make breeding puppies her main hobby, then its less stressful to have a list of people who want puppies first!

yes however the ultrasound said between 4/6 puppys and we ended up with 9, 4 were booked but only 2 definates now as circumstances have changed slightly on there behalf,

thanks molly1 and lea

>4 were booked but only 2 definates now as circumstances have changed slightly on there behalf,

That's very typical, I'm afraid. Potential owners, who've said they'd love a puppy, melt away like snow in summer once the pups are actually born. :-(

i wouldnt sell these puppys to anyone out of the ordinary, also if i thought there was problems in the future my contract im writing, states that if i think there is any problems i have the right to seise these puppys, i wont let anything happen,

deansami - have you checked to see if the breed club does have a puppy co-ordinator who may have a list of people who are looking for puppies of your breed?   I did suggest this in my first post!

>if i think there is any problems i have the right to seise these puppys

That won't be possible - once they've changed ownership you have no rights over them at all. To sieze them would be theft, just as if you took back a car you'd sold because the new owners didn't drive it properly.

Most breeders start their puppy lists and preliminary vetting  long before a bitch comes into season let alone before a mating and they will take into account that a percentage of people will drop out for one reason or another. I think this is the planning that Loki's mum is talking about. It goes hand in hand with the health tests.

i know the secretary from our club up here so i will contact him tomorro, hopefully he can help a little,,,,, i know your only trying to help, thankyou lokis mum

so is there really any point in these kennel club contracts then?

well i didnt do too bad as the people who wanted puppys informed me a long time ago, both parents are health tested and clear, like i say its my first time and i feel like i aint done too bad at all,

You may have been a little nieve though because as you have said you now find yourself with only two puppies booked as people have backed out possibley a slightly longer list would have been better and not relying quite so heavily on scan results which can be notoriuosly inaccurate.

well what can i say to that, yes your right, i know what everyone is saying however i feel like everyone is being a bit harsh on me, its my first time doing any of this i know i havent got anything perfect this time round,

>so is there really any point in these kennel club contracts then?

Yes. They're mainly to cover your back so that you're less likely to be sued if a pup turns out to be 'faulty' in some way, and would show the owners that you aren't a fly-by-night dealer who just wants rid of the pups and then refuses to accept any rsponsibility for them.

yeah, oh good well at least i know now then i know i neednt put that in, thankyou

Not harsh Deansami, just concerened for the dogs and hoping, as it looks like you have, will listen and do things different next time :)
If all you have got wrong on your first litter is the waiting lists, then you are well on your way fr your second litter being prepared for brilliantly :)
But what you do have to realise is the sof lokis mum has been around here and a well respected breeder for years, and we all see people coming on saying they have mated there pet dog with their pet bitch and doing X Y and Z wth them with NO thought to it. And there HAS been alot lately!! So we do tend to think the worst when we have not been told the full facts :) :)
Good luck homing this litter :)
Lea :)

Altough it may seem harsh, deansami, if, before you had planned your litter, you had read my bit about advertising a planned litter, it would have given you a bit more information in the first place.

As you know, people might google "having a litter" and they will read these posts.   So if the information is posted here now, it might help someone else in the future.

No one is picking on you we are offering advice gained through experience. You want to do your best, you want to learn maybe some thought to whats being said without it being taken as personal is a way of gaining more knowledge for the future.

to be honest, i know what your saying, i think i need some sleep and a hug as i am so stressed and upset all the time, i did prepare for the tiredness but not for the upsetness, i will do things a little different next time, we only learn from our mistakes, so far i think iv done most of it right just the sale part, however if im left with a couple of puppys then so be it, i will just have to addapt to a new life, lol thanks

sami

i must have missed that,

thankyou anyway sorry im proberbly not making any sense, i will learn from this thankyou again

sami, everyone has to start somewhere and none of the posters on here would have been perfect with their first litters but in the days before the internet no-one would have known about any mistakes they made or things they didn't have planned out properly ;)  Full marks for you coming on here and opening yourself up, sometimes we have to make our own mistakes rather than learning from other people's.  Good luck with marketing your litter and hope you get perfect homes lined up.

thanks hun, thought we got off on the wrong foot last night (pit bulls), its nice to hear some praise for my so far work, thanks

sami

No one on here signs themselves as Mary Poppins :-D

did i miss something??????

Sorry just my sense of humour I'm afraid, Mary Poppins -prctically perfect in everyway

i wish i was marypoppins, lol

satincollie, it isn't in anyone's signature line ;)  but there are some who certainly seem to project themselves as having never made a mistake yet taking delight in berating everyone else's. 

I have noticed over the years that people join the forum fairly naive and asking questions and within months are jumping down other new people's throats with the opinions delivered to themselves only recently, mainly on topics of food and breeding.  To any outsider it would seem that an initiation test needs to be passed which involves getting mauled by some of the regulars before you can join that gang.  Just an observation....

As for berating I dont see that anyone has been.
We all come on here to learn and share. How can that process take place if no one says anything other than, oh great fantastic, well done, oh lovely? Sami hasn't been attacked in any way and has been given various peices of advice and information which she seems to have taken in and will hopefully mean she carries on to become the excellant breeder she is aiming to be.
As to passing an initiation test well I'm sorry but I must have missed that all those years ago when I joined this forum never have felt picked on or that I had to pass any kind of test.

I've made plenty of mistakes in my time - I've never pretended otherwise - but I had good, old fashioned mentors - and now, because we have the internet it is possible to point out the pitfalls and make suggestions so that ohers can learn by our mistakes!

Do we post on this board for the good of our - and other people's  - dogs  or for the "feelgood factor"?  As I post, it comes up "CHAMPDOGS INFORMATION EXCHANGE".   That is what it is called.   So we exchange information.   Not pats on the back.