The KC have just informed me that they will not except Hip x~ray's for scoring, from dogs that have not been given a full anaesthetic !!!!

Leigh

how would they know do they write in on the form,I wont have mine hip scored under anesthetic as I lost a beloved dog once that way,have they gone mad??

Thats the question Mattie. Its a few years since I had a dog scored. I hoped that John (or someone else) might know if Vets have to declare it on the form somewhere ?

Leigh

We recently had our youngest flatcoat done (in july) and there is notheing on the green form to say if he had been sedated or had an anasthetic, we even had to send the xray off our self and there was no extra form that went with the main one. Our boy was sedated as after we had the bitch done she had an anasthetic and ever since has hated going in to any vets surgery even though she was done at a different one to the main ones we went to and since we have moved vets after several disagrements with him and she has hated going into all the surgerys, and we didnt want the same problem with the male as at least we can carry the bitch!!!!

What difference does it make to the actual score wether they were sedated or under anaesthetic, and how would the KC prove it as it is not written on any form?

Hi Leigh - thanks for Monday. This news amazes me as I was hoping to avoid anaesthetic next time I have a bitch for hip scoring. What possible justification can there be for this. I'm awaiting Johns comments with great interest.
Lorna

Hi Lorna, it was great to meet you too :-) Reefa and Bear slept for 24 hours after all that exercise ..lol. Leigh x

The KC are completely off their trolley on this . Our flatcoats have always been x-rayed under sedation, and the results are excellent. If I had to put them right out, I think I would refuse to do it.
Maybe the KC have an ulterior motive in risking our dogs, but can't think what it is.

Jo and the Casblaidd Flatcoats

I cannot imagine how the KC came to this decision or how they would know! From a different angle, I'm not sure if it's legal! Years ago it was the norm for the vet nurse to hold a dog for ex-ray particularly in the case of an RTA. I seem that it was said at the college on one of my visits that this was no longer allowed because of the high dosage some nurses were receiving. (Maybe Polly can remember, she was there? We were at the equestrian department at the time Polly.) I must admit that I was suppressed anyone was still doing it but as they were I took advantage of it! From the point of view of the plate there can be no difference but from the health angle I can see the logic.

Regards, John

John,
The Vet I use for hips does it under mild sedation,tranquilised but not put out completely,hes very good and also a panelist he can give you an idea of what the score will be too.

Jo and Mattie,
Can both of you please email me with the names of your vets? I will need to get Mara's hips done in the next year and want someone who is very proficient to do it. Thanks!

Will do, Sierra, when I've found it.

Jo and the Casblaidd Flatcoats

i am due to take my boxer up to glasgow vets college,too be hip scored and heart tested.how much roughly are these procedures??must they put my dog under to do her hip score??any help will be great

Can someone in the know explain why I've been told by too different vets that they prefer to use anaesthetic as in the case of a problem it can be reversed whereas sedation can not. Have I been lied to? If so what would be the benifit to the vet, is it just that it is easier to get satifactory pictures with the dog under anaesthetic. JH

Hi Jackie. Just spoken to a friend who's an anaesthesiologist (did I spell that right?) :rolleyes: She assures me that your vet is not lying :-)

Anaesthetics control pain and relax muscles and consequently an antidote can be administered. She also said that in her opinion, better x~ray results are achieved.

Sedation "numbs the brain".. lol ....could be a language "thing" !

If anything were to go wrong, then the Vet has more options open to them with an anaesthetic.

Well keep your fingers crossed, because Bear goes under tomorrow.

Leigh