Do you think that generally dogs integrate better with others of their own breed, or have you found that is has little to do with the breeds, and really just down to the particualr mindset of that dog.

For example, would two BT's usually always get on better than say a BT and a British Bulldog, as one instance?

Or, like I say, is it not really the determining factor...?

My own hounds defiantly recognise there own breed but that may well be because they live with them. I think it is more a case of they know what they don't like rather than a breed. Mine do not like eyeballing or anything that rumbles under the breath both being responded to by what I think of as a 'enquiring bark' not real aggression more a warning that they are not to be messed with.

In my opinion its down to socialisation, my dogs get on well with most other breeds and they no more likely to get on with their own breed/s.

I think some owners unconciously socialise their dogs more with their chosen breed. Sit together at training and shows, go for walks and wander over for a chat if they see someone with the same breed. When they see someone with a different breed they don't stop, or even avoid them, on a walk and their dog doesn't get chance to meet. Those owners don't realise they're doing that and start putting their thoughts onto the dog.

I'd imagine that all of us have soft spots for a few particular breeds so its not surprising this happens.

i agree karen. My dog will be friendly to anyone or any other dog that is friendly to him. 
How do dogs recognise the same breed?? Do dogs even know what they are??:-)

My pup (9 month old Mastiff) loves every dog he sees, he really doesn't care what breed it is and he's never met another Mastiff since I had him. I have found though, that most dogs get very intmidated by him, the only dog that has ever wanted to play with him was a lab and he met another lab acouple of days ago that was happy to come and give him a sniff (to old to bother with play).
So it seems to be Labs the most likely breed to accept him/play with him, maybe it's thier robust nature? the ones we've met aren't scared of him atall (which is unusual, a lot of dogs get really on edge around Buster :( ).

I think breed traits may mean that certain breeds will get on better with one another, but then it also has a lot to do with the individual dogs traits, training and social skills. I know if there was another Mastiff pup near me, Buster would be in his element playing with it - another dog that could keep up with his rough-housing. But any breed that would play happily with him (and not get put off/scared by rough play) would make a perfect buddy for him.

interesting thread, I always thought that own breeds would def get on better due to their traits BUT
My BMD spends his home with other BMD's and nearly every walk we do is with my friend and her SBT, and my male BMD behaves more like a SBT!!!
He darts around trying to chase the SBT, trying to collect sticks like the SBT, he acts like a little brother to the SBT trying to copy everything!!!
Whereas when we just walk BMD's on their own with no other dogs, my male is more laid back, just sniffs around!! :)

I have read that many dogs are wary of Bulldogs because they are unable to read their faces, but I am not sure if that is true or not.

I wonder if its the noise bulldogs make as I know my lad who never makes a sound at other dogs grumbled at one when my daughter was handling him.  We are convinced it was the grunting noise although perhaps it was the face :)

It's very difficult for a dog to read a black dog's face, especially when it's dark.

I had a springer that thought she was a beardie ;-) Her best friend was a beardie and when she met up with for years after she would change behaviour and come over all silly. I knew that there was a beardie nearby long before it came into my view, just because of her behaviour. No other breed brought the same behaviour from her.

Our Golden gets on well with most other breeds except the toy breeds which she is a little wary of.  However, she definately prefers other Goldens and will always go and play with another Golden rather than any other breed. 

We have a Golden Retriever and a terrier cross who are the best of friends. Both will play with any other dog that is willing. :)

My male loves most dogs, but has always like Dobermanns especially the female variety, he loves charging round with them....it's so funny to watch three dobermanns and a lab acting like complete loons:) he also likes small dogs he gets very exciting by them!!!:)

I once met a couple on a walk who had a chocolate lab, who said their dog only played with chocolate labs.........snobby dog lol :)

Mine definitely recognise others of the same breed. One of my bitches has to have an eye kept on her as she takes an instant dislike to some other dogs (I can detect no pattern to it) and this only started after she had her first litter of puppies - yet she is in no way a dominant bitch. She had an "altercation" with another bitch of the same breed, always remembers her, but is friendly with any of the others!

My terrier mix girl does for some reason not like squashed up face breeds. My friend has a British bulldog and she hates her same as a other friends white boxer ? generally she loves all dogs so maybe it is the no nose with those breeds that turns her off. I first thought she didn't like Rodney the boxer due to him hassling her and being male [castrated] but when a friend turned up with a 6 month old bull mastiff x pit she was madly in love with him ?

Snoop my boy BT loves only the ladies of the world. He for some reason does not like springer spaniels or labs he even growls at them in the car. If he meets them and  there girls hes fine.  

My cocker loves all dogs really, however he always makes a bee line for Borders (as his "brother" at home is one) he went up to an old Border collie and she bit the end of his nose, so he is a bit more cautious. He bounds up and flings himself on his back!! (hes only 15 months). More likely to lick someone to death than fight, definately a lover not a fighter. But he will cross a field to meet another spaniel so i do think they know their own "breed".

Have to agree my dogs are not sure about 'flat face' dogs but they still find the other end of interest.

I believe it is really to do with early socialisation, so if the dog has mostly been with their won breed then they will get on and recognise these more.

My lot have had a great deal to do with in particular my friends Dobermans, other friends Border Collies and also Golden retrievers, and they really like any member of these breeds.

> How do dogs recognise the same breed??

It would be early imprinting on the dam, dogs I suppose assume they are what their mother is.

Mine are very well socialised and like all dogs but they sure recognise their own kind.  I occasionally have fosters or ex pups come to stay, and also looked after various friends dogs of various breeds.  they accept all visitors with equanimity, but the Elkhounds are included, the others are just sort of accepted but largely ignored.

My dog loves all dogs and will play with them equally (if allowed by the other dog) - but put him with another boxer and they play completely differently, up on their back legs 'boxing' each other and making that noise they do.

I don't know if he recognises the breed or just that dogs of the same breed play in the same way as each other.

My past and current GSD's seem to understand that when playing with their own type it could be much harder and more intense than with other types of dog.  Would be very interesting to study!

>> How do dogs recognise the same breed??

>It would be early imprinting on the dam, dogs I suppose assume they are what their mother is.

I suspect that must be the case with our Golden as although she is well socialised she has never regularly mixed with other Goldens yet it is always the Goldens she wants to play with when given a choice

> My terrier mix girl does for some reason not like squashed up face breeds

it could be more to do with the stance than the face? bulldogs, boxers and my own breed are forward angled because of the larger chests which can make them look a bit like they are lunging maybe? or as if they are squaring up?

My Gordon Setter loves (wait for it) - Labradoodles!! I have no idea why but every labradoodle she has met she has fallen instantly in love with :-D Now she adores our Bernese and snuggles up to her all the time but why the labradoodle? Our Bernese gets on well with all dogs and will happily go over to sniff and play even with SBT and bulldogs, the setter is more reserved except for blooming labradoodles :-D :-D

shame, shame! give her a stern talking to :P

Think that the breeds of dogs that dogs meet when they are between 3 and 6 months seem to stick in their memories and if a breed has been particularly liked at the young age it seems to continue. Two of my boys who were at training classes with GBGV have never forgotten and make a bee line if they see one.

Has anyone any experience of American Bulldogs, and how you personally like them, or otherwise?

Sorry would not know one if I saw it.

somewhere in structure between a bulldog and a bullmastiff, stocky but with far longer legs and athletisim than a bulldog, their colouring comes in quite a range though, often white and red patching, no black mask like the bullies.

i understand that they are a friendly breed but with fairly typical bullbreed tendancies (i.e. males tnd to be a bit off with other males) though the unfortunate trend in ownership at the moment (their the new staffy don;t ya know, goes lovely with your burberry cap and jogging bottoms) has led to some terrible examples about. unfortunately the only ones i''ve seen in real life are these, so not giving a terribly good impression of the breed

if you've seen the disney version of "homeward bound- the increadible journey", Chance is an American Bulldog i think

They are not on the FCI list does that mean they are a cross breed?

not sure if they are a recognised breed, probably not to be honest but they have certainly been around for a wee while. if you google them loads of stuff comes up

Have seen some photos but they all seem very different apart from being of a bull breed type that is why I looked on the FCI list to see if I could find a standard, I could not.

see i can't tell if it's because there is no true type or because the examples are all so badly bred. If there is no FCI standard it's probably a bit of both

They aren't recognised by the FCI or the AKC but have their own organisation, so not really recongnised by any countries governing canine body..

A friend of mine had a beautiful girl called Bella.  I was amazed how much from behind she looked just like my bull terrier snoop same height and build, she was pure white also and had the head of a boxer.
Sadly she was poisoned and died at only 4 years old .
She had a lovely temperament as my friend had 3 children 7,5 and 2 and they were very hyper kids ! Saying that it must be the owner as she got a rottweiler bitch and she is an lovely girl too.

Think that the breeds of dogs that dogs meet when they are between 3 and 6 months seem to stick in their memories

I would agree with that as the two labradoodles she was particularly taken with were both at the training class she went to as a puppy. I think it also works for dogs they have 'issues' with as our first Bernese took a particular dislike to all Rhodesian Ridgebacks after one of them barked and growled at our lapphund (completely ignored the Bernese, but he obviously took the huff on behalf of his pal :-D ) at ringcraft.

Magica, she was poisoned?  By what or whom?

How about Sharpei's?

Personally, I like them, even if I do not have a lot of experience with them.

What does their temp tend to be like, with people, and other dogs..?  Anyone..?  Someone said at Crufts that the breed should be permitted to die out, since they had so many genetic health problems, that could not be solved.

What do you think to that?

> How about Sharpei's?
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Are you asking if Sharpei are different in their interaction with other dogs or are they thought of as flat faced. The answer is no in both cases. Don't think you are asking if Sharpei are Am Bulldogs, no you can't be. Sorry I am not too sure what you are asking.

Just what you think of them as a breed, family dog, pet, etc?

An overview of the breed, for anyone that knows it well.

That sort of thing.

:)

Agree totally K92303. GSDs play differently with other GSDs than with others, they play differently with my GR and cross breed than with each other. My GSDs also take an instant dislike to BTs - I've always thought it was to do with eye contact between herding breeds. 

sounds a bit off topic, you;d maybe get more answers if you started a specific thread. are you looking for info on breeds for a possible pet? if so maybe make a list and ask for general info on them and personal experiences

Yeah, probably would mate.

Just thought someone that happened to be reading through this thread might own one, or be familiar with the breed.

First, lost my place in the thread a bit, so sorry if this reply is not linked with the right previous response here!

Pugs often get extreme reactions form other dogs, expecially the first time they meet.  This includes dogs of all ages, and tends to be the bigger the dog the more afraid/upset they are at first, although  they do "come round"!  At puppy pre-school for the last 2 saturdays, 2 different baby SPringers have been completely confused/bemused by my pug pups.  The first week, the springer eventually came round and was desperate to paly with them, but last week a new springer simply woudl not admit any of the pugs existed - she was determined to look away from them, even when on of the Vet nurses picked her up in one arm, and one of the pugs in the other!

Hi Cain,

The vet could not find the cause of death but was very suspicious as a neighbour who had a giant poodle Barney died of poisoning within a matter of weeks as well.
They live in a very secluded area with only 3 barn conversions with their own drive so very distressing for them both. :(

I thought about having a shar pei when my older dog died but with mass breeding and health issues didn't get one.
I'm sure that you can't get them insured as well, due to there health problems.

Saying about there facial expressions or lack of, I think it has to do with the fact that they are a Chinese fighting dog originally so that might account for that?