Ive tried a search and it says no parma or gammon bones, but Im making a pea n ham (well gammon) soup and wondered if the pup can have some gammon, I know no pork but what about gammon, also bacon, sausage etc or is it just pork thats a no?

Is gammon not quite salty??? Wouldnt think thats a good idea to give to a dog. Cooked meat is normally a no no anyway i think.

Pork is OK if fit for human consumption, but some dogs have trouble with it.  Gammon has salt in it so should not be fed for the same reasons as bacon and the parma ham, as they ahve all been processed.

When I raw fed, my dog had loads of pork - pigs legs and trotters from Landywoods and pork ribs from the supermarket. Pork mince without the bone would give him the squits but pork on the bone he was fine with. I always made sure I freezed it for several weeks (much longer than other meats) - can't remember where I read to do that now.

Probably wouldn't give gammon as too salty as others have said.

>Cooked meat is normally a no no anyway i think.

Cooked meat (without bone) is fine.

> I always made sure I freezed it for several weeks (much longer than other meats)

Sorry to butt in but I have just got some bones for my guys - do they need freezing before I feed them?  Can you feed them frozen?
They are a mixed bag so god knows what's in there. 

The marrowbone is coming next week when my mum places her meat order from her butcher :-)

Ditto with the salt gammon thing

Ditto,gammon,bacon far to salty.Just been to the butchers and got a huge bag of large mixed bones.Mainly beef.I have given pork ribs on numerous occasions with no probs and the dogs eat the lot up.Bones are better fresh but a frozen bone shouldn't be given straight out of the freezer.Can give upset tummies and have you ever had brain freeze from ice cream?not nice.Give mine at room temp.However my conservatory looks like they have actually killed 1/2 a cow.Yuk!!And now even worse they are trying to wipe there noses on me as I am typing away.Very Classy.

Sorry but I think ALL beef should be either frozen or cooked before feeding to dog's...some buggy in it can cause problems and is killed by either freezing or cooking. Obviously don't cook bones so mine are always frozen for a while before feeding.
Aileen,

I do get my beef etc from a local butchers and it is all from tested human grade organic meat.I have done this for the last 26 years though not from the same butcher as he would have only been six.In fact I enjoy a rare steak and it never has done me any harm-will give bones a miss as my teeth are just not up to the task lol.Guess what is really important is to really source your butcher and if in doubt throw it out.

Ok then all bones will be frozen for a few days and then thawed before feeding!!  Makes sense to me and I don't want to make them ill.

The butcher my mum uses is fab and I would trust anything from him.  He was one of the traditional ones that used to kill all their own meat before it wasn't allowed.

>I think ALL beef should be either frozen or cooked before feeding to dog's.

I agree. There was a thread about neospora caninum (a parasite) posted some time ago here.

Better to be safe than sorry (or safer at least!).

Thanks for that Zarah I know there was some bug but did not know the ins and outs of it. I NEVER feed raw UNFROZED beef to my girlie's...even their bones are frozen beforehand, nice as a fresh raw meaty bone looks they are always frozen then thawed out for the girlie's.
Aileen.

To Cornishmals, The parasite does not effect humans and I also love a nice rare steak, it's just the dogies that can be affected (And some other animals) so I really think it's not worth the risks. I think that many things that at one time only were a problem in other countries are becoming much more wide spread with all the climate changes and sourcing our food from far afield so I am not prepared to take the risks. I am sure your doggies are just a important to you so please give this some thought. ;-)
Aileen

Unfortunately most domestic freezers don't go down to the necessary temperature to make much of an impact.  Also, how long you have to freeze depends on the weight of the meat/bone involved.  I also understand that freezing in a domestic freeer will generally stop the bacteria mutliplying but will not eradicate it.  There are some papers on this subject on the net if you google, but must admit most were too scientific for me to apply my limited intelligence.  However, the above were the key messages that I picked up.  

There is nothing wrong with feeding frozen bones, mine often have thier marrow bones straight from the freezer, and chicken wings, just takes them longer to eat.

I feed the chicken wings frozen but didn't know if I could with a much larger bone.

Mine love their bones frozen in the summer...mmm.. nice and cool like a lollypop!!

Perhaps i didn't make my self clear.The mince I give my dogs have been previously frozen,this ensures the meat remains safe for my dogs to eat.I do ensure it is thoroughly defrosted and not given straight out of the fridge.I also at times cook the mince with veggies,pasta,rice etc.I would not consider giving my dogs anything that I would consider dangerous,and am lucky that I have a wonderful butcher who has excellent produce.I have on occasion given my dogs fresh mince and expressed an opinion that in the past 26 years I have not had a problem.To reilleterate,if I was in any doubt what so ever I would not dream of putting my precious dogs at risk.

I never for one moment thought you would CM just worrying for you I suppose!!
I like you get most of my meat through a local Organic farm/butcher and am a bit paranoid about beef after reading about the neospora bug's!!!
Didn't mean to cause offence, sorry.
Aileen

No offence taken I probabaly have a touch of PMT.Demon my 2 year old mal and Kira my 18 month girl aren't that keen on raw mince anyway.I tried to get them to be proper BARF embassadors,but to be honest they prefer it cooked in a wok with mixed veggies and pasta or rice,sometimes with home made spag bol sauce.They also love tinned sardines in tomato sauce mixed with their Royal Canin - never ever in brine.

Yep same here, we do Tripe and chicken wings/carcasses but draw the line at most raw meat of the red variety!!! Such things have to be cooked so we stick to tripe and RC with additions of chicken, tuna, sardines, eggs, and loads of veggies. Liver must be cooked so must beef, pork and lamb...funny lot!

Must confess though there fav is vanilla ice cream-please don't shout anyone as they have it very rarely and usually consists of licking out an almost empty ice cream container.