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By Kash
Date 10.03.08 20:47 UTC
Bread rolls are called 'Breadcakes' and we say jennel- a snicket is when it's narrower and has a privet (hedge if you're me) running either side :-) Same goes for bacon rolls etc though- they're buttys :-)
Stacey x- South Yorkshire

here in Merseyside we say entry or jigger
a bread roll is a bread roll ,
bizzies are the police,
a cob on -sulking .
fog horn - loud mouth,
get your skates on - your late,

I'm with Crespin. After nearly 3 years here I thought I was getting the hang of the lingo and now you've all thrown me for a loop. How will I ever manage once I finance that vacation to Scotland? :)
By ceejay
Date 10.03.08 23:03 UTC

Just up the road from you Oldilocks! LLantrisant. (shsh though! originally from the other side of the border but my father was Welsh I have lived here now for best part of my life) 'Wenglish' is something soon picked up
By Dill
Date 11.03.08 00:46 UTC
Yup - I sound like Nessa when I get going. :D
we all say years for the listening things :)
Listening to some of my daughter's friends and my neices, there's a new expression in wales too ........ Joe Ramine? (said with Australian Question Intonation ;) ) I spent weeks trying to figure out who he was, I thought he was a Spaniard LOL
Anyone else met Joe Ramine

I was wanting to go to England on Vacation, and now I worry that I will get there, and no one would know what I was talking about!!!!! I would be so lost.
ETA: Maybe I should print this off, and use it as a little dictonary or something. lol
Ceejay, I'll bet I have passed you in the street! We go to Llantrisant at least once a week, we have lots of relatives in that area as my husband originally came from Beddau (We don't spread that around though!!) :) :)
I live in Devon i dont know anyone who says "dimsy" or "dimpsy" :-)
By Nikita
Date 11.03.08 08:54 UTC

I am so, so glad I read this thread the other day!
I started dance classes last night, and when I rang up to find out where the studio was I was told to go to such-and-such chinese restaurant, then go up the 'tenfoot' by the side and the door was there.
If I hadn't read this thread I would never have known what a tenfoot was :-D
So apparently alleyways in north lincs are tenfoots!
>I live in Devon i dont know anyone who says "dimsy" or "dimpsy"
Perhaps your circle is younger than my Devon-raised family! ;-)
By Polo
Date 11.03.08 09:19 UTC
Edited 11.03.08 09:22 UTC

I live in north west Wales but lived in north west England too. So mix of words. A panad is a cup of tea. The bread; well a bap is a large soft, white roll.A sarnie is ,well, a sandwich, a bread roll is a crusty, small roll, Bread is the ready sliced loaf version you get from the supermarket. Toots are your feet. According to one welsh relative, mushy peas are pe slwsh - always makes me laugh! Also more local ; 'the old bridge' is Menai Bridge, 'the new bridge' Brittania. Minds gone blank now LOL! Maybe someone can help me out with the north Wales phrases?:-)
Last night a friend asked me to pass her something. As i gave it to her i said "ee are" which in Devon means "here you are". Because of what i'd read that day it made me smile as soon as i said it. Only in Devon do we say nonsense like that :-)
"Only in Devon do we say nonsense like that"......don't you believe it!!! :) :)
By ceejay
Date 11.03.08 09:53 UTC

Dill I had to look away and say that over several times until it clicked :-) Oldilocks - I visit Bridgend regularly too - my daughter lives there. Don't take the dog down there too often although she loves Newbridge fields - but today it is so wet and muddy I have been checking out the tides for a beach walk. I love Merthyr Mawr but would not go down there on my own. Look out for a feisty little red and white wsd.
My son's girlfriend is Dutch. She learnt most of her English from watching American TV. However she spent alot of time in chat rooms (that is how they met) for Wales because she was a big Cerys Matthews fan. She didn't have much trouble with the language when she came - it was the humour that she took time to learn. She couldn't always tell if someone was joking or not.
By Blue
Date 11.03.08 10:06 UTC

Crespin you will be fine. Clear as a bell. I have never known a person not to understand a Canadian.

I'm from Gloucestershire (pronounced by locals glo er shir) 'wer de couws be fram, ca'al coun'ey' - 'where the cows come from, cattle county'
we also say 'ee are' instead of 'hear you are' and 'tra or' for tractor, 'fanks' for thanks, one that confuses even us is 'free' instead of three - very lazy talkers!!! The list goes on, we sound like 'farmers' (unless using our 'telephone' voices!!). Infact, I speak with such a broad accent that my school friends from (who lived in a different village) used to take the mick out of me!!!
I will alway remember my honey moon to Jamaica, we met another English couple & they spent they whole time getting me to say different words, " go on, say tractor...." they loved the accent (it does make me sound very dense though!!).
I must add that the degree of the accent varies between different towns/villages, the more into the country you get the stronger the accent.
I can't think of any different terms we have for anything, I think all different terms have died out with the older generations :(
Mastifflover............I love the Gloucestershire accent! It would be really boring if we all spoke in the same accent wouldn't it?
Funny how places like gloustershire, devon, norfolk etc, are all "lazy talkers" and all were originally a high farming population.
People laugh at me when i go away as well as ask me to repeat words so they can copy/laugh :-)

Most of the time I am quite proud of my accent. But it can be a problem. Even with my poshest 'telephone' voice I still have problems with people understnading me on the 'phone, generally if they speak very well & 'sound educated' (I hate that term, I'm educated - you wouldn't believe that if you heard me talking though!!).
It is strange how farm based counties have this lazy accent (they all sound quite similar don't they?).
Maybe it is to do with the fact that the communities were all based on farmers, in that it was a passed-down trade, with diction & schooling not being a priority but the ability to work hard & run a farm?? (I mean no offense to farmers what-so-ever here, I'm talking about way back in history where learning the trade hands-on was more important than pronouncing your words correctly).
By MW184
Date 11.03.08 11:27 UTC
Obviously though it is all of us Londoners/Greater Londoners that have got it right...........:) :) :)
I find the various accents and dialects of this country really fascinating. I'm from Somerset, but I don't really have the typical westcountry accent. I don't think I have any accent in particular. My parents are from Lancashire but since living down here for 20 years their accents have faded quite a bit.
I think someone said it before, but "to" is often added to the end of some phrases such as "where is it?" = "where's it to?". Also the "r" sound is very strong.
I have never heard of any of these words for alleys! And I would just call bread buns, buns or rolls.
I have a friend from Newcastle, and the first time I went to visit him I had so much trouble understanding him and his family! I had to ask him to speak slower for me. I am getting better at understanding him now but I still can't understand his dad, especially when they're all talking together. It sounds like a whole new language to me.

In the Isle of Man people say "skeet" instead of nosey/curious/gossip etc
eg "skeetin are ya?" = "being nosey are you?"
"oh what the skeet?" = "oh whats the gossip?"
> I am in Dundee and an alleyway is called a pendy
yep!
though depending on the type of roll (and filling) you can have a butty (i.e. chip- yummy!)
also a pie is a "pae" (a mince pie)
my flatmates from hull and occasionally refers to rolls as breadcakes.

sorry - me again.
More to do with pronouciation than terminology - a little ditty I just remembered:
I can't read nor I can't write
but tha(t) dont seem to ma'er (matter)
I come from a Glo-er-shire town
an(d) I can drive a tra-er (tractor)
'I' sounds more like 'oi' & rhymes with 'bouy'. The 't' in can't is silent. The vowels are always drawn out & prominant.
'Oh aahhh' = oh yes? (as in 'really?')
A 'bun' is sweet as in 'iced bun'. A roll is a bread roll (can be crusty/soft/seeded/finger), a bap is a soft bread roll can be a burger bap. Fish & chips is a fish supper. An alley way is an alley, unless it is really narrow then it might be a passage way.
A 'butty' is a chip or bacon sandwich.
A 'sanger' is a sausage sandwich.
A 'sarnie' is a sandwich.

Poloaussie, they do the whole 'is it' thing after sentences in Dundee too and they call roundabouts 'circles' which can be a bit confusing.

I've lived all over the UK so it's hard to remember where some of my different words originate. Born and bred in N. Wales where pumps are plimsoles, butties are sandwiches whatever the filling, we also get a cob on when sulking/annoyed, savoury ducks are a type of faggot that you fry with breakfast, a chewie is chewing gum and a narrow alley is a snicket. I have also lived in the south west, 'where ee be to?', ate oggies (pasties) and egg banjos (no other filling was called a banjo) etc. In Scotland I ate many a fish supper and also had dumplings and square sausage.
Funny old thing I now live in Essex and cannot think of anything in particular, perhaps I am now too much of a local! :D
By Izzy bear
Date 11.03.08 17:14 UTC
Edited 11.03.08 17:17 UTC
Hi Dearlady
As a person from Hull I have never heard the term bacon banjo, bacon sarnie and bacon butty defininatley but never a bacon banjo?
A tenfoot is something you can only walk down, an alleyway you can drive. Never really heard the term snicket used often.
A patty is something you really only find in Hull and places in the East Yorkshire that are close to Hull. Its a spiced mashed potato cake deep fried - a staple of many a school childs lunch.
Got me thinking too.
A bread roll can be many things but mainly a bread cake in Hull.

I'm from Preston, Lancashire georgepig what about you?

Also in the Isle of Man its bad luck to say RAT (just remember from at post i read) most people call them "long tail's" and if some one says RAT the other person will either touch wood, pat their head, whistle or run round in a circle - LOL good old folk story's hey
I'm not a beleiver but then again I'm probably the most unmanx manx person on the island!
Does anybody else have wierd things like this where they live?
When I was a child, all us kids used to chant when we saw an ambulance "Touch your collar, never swallow, 'til you see a dog!" Sounds really funny now!! :) :)

I'm from Northern Ireland but have lived in Edinburgh for the last 9 years... it doesn't really matter what I call things, hardly anyone can understand me anyway! :-)

I was London raised from immigrant father and mother from immigrant stock (both Polish) so my English was learnt at school (didn't speak a word until five).
I know very few of these Dialect words, and think I speak mostly standard, maybe being a bookworm all my life is part of it too.
I am told after living in Bristol for 20 years that my accent is now west country, it used to be London, but not Cockney.
If I am talking for any length of time with someone of a strong accent, even on the phone I( start to speak that way too, my daughter tells me off when I do it on the phone, but I couldn't mimic deliberately. I think it comes from being bilingual, that accent rubs off easily subconsciously.
>I'm from Northern Ireland but have lived in Edinburgh for the last 9 years... it doesn't really matter what I call things, hardly anyone can understand me anyway! :-)
Aha! A fellow Norn Iron-er! :-D The reason I haven't participated in this topic is that I'd be here all day explaining the peculiarities of local dialects!! But at least you can be sure there is one other person on the board who'll understand you ;-) :-D
By MW184
Date 12.03.08 08:20 UTC
huskypup - if nothing else you must be sick of hearing 'aint it' being in essex...
Pinkbrady - Leeds (on the other side of the hills LOL!)

Yes 'ain't it' is very commonly heard and I've thought of another one 'Oi Oi' as a way of saying, I guess, hello. Funny thing I tend to say 'innert' (isn't it) in a West Country accent - lol. I also have a habit of say 'divun nah' (don't know). Forgot to say that a buttie is always said in N Wales as eg Buttie Bacon, Buttie cheese and not in the usual English word order.
Gosh isn't English great. :D
By MW184
Date 12.03.08 13:01 UTC
Then of course apart from dialect we also have 'young persons talk' and 'old codgers talk' - for example young person: that is sick - means that is good. Old Codgers talk: That is sick - means that is nasty ,
My two kids baffle me at times!
By Dill
Date 12.03.08 13:07 UTC
What I really love about welsh/wenglish is they way people are referred to :D
Dai the Bike
Jones the milk
Annie Breadcake - No
idea what that means

Billy Whole-half-egg
the younger generation are losing this, most youngsters sound like Catherine Tate or something out of Little Britain now :(
Oh and I love the word Snicket! wish we had that instead of gully :)
and anyone ever heard of a Bailey? the road between the front of the house and the garden ;)
By Dill
Date 12.03.08 13:17 UTC
>If I am talking for any length of time with someone of a strong accent, even on the phone I( start to speak that way too
I'm the same, it gets really embarassing,
especially if I'm talking to someone from Southern Ireland, I don't even know I'm doing it

I also have a problem with the Yorkshire accent :-D it was a particular trial when I worked with 2 Yorkshire men with wonderful accents

When I was in Westphalia, Germany visiting OH's relatives, all their friends were convinced that I was from somewhere near the Austrian border

my German teacher in school had been an Austrian woman and I had picked up her accent

they still say I sound Austrian/German when we talk :-D

I still sometimes refer to folk by their name/trade ie Dai the meat. I do get funny looks too, because I do not have hardly any welsh accent, most people can just about guess that I from 'op north'.
My OH is always out spotting what he considers typical Essex girls and always has to ask me if he is right - 'is that girl a typical one? orange fake tan, yes? bleached blonde hair/highlights, yes? lots and lots of make-up, yes, skimpy (even in cold weather) sexy clothes, yes? Well at least that's his basic check list lol, lol.
Never heard of a Bailey in front of the house but only as an alley, actually I walked through the one called 'Bailey's Gant' mention by OP.
By Nikita
Date 12.03.08 17:05 UTC
>If I am talking for any length of time with someone of a strong accent, even on the phone I( start to speak that way too
>I'm the same, it gets really embarassing, especially if I'm talking to someone from Southern Ireland, I don't even know I'm doing it I also >have a problem with the Yorkshire accent it was a particular trial when I worked with 2 Yorkshire men with wonderful accents
OMG I am so glad that isn't just me! :-D I caught myself doing it at college last month, I was chatting to a friend from Scotland and I got out a few words in her accent before I caught myself (I'm Kentish so it really stands out!).
My mate's used to it - I'm forever changing accent when we're talking :-P most often to scottish, it sounds so good when I curse! lol :-P
I am finding my accent is starting to slip now though if I'm not careful (now living in north lincs) - so weirdly I seem to be compensating for it subconsciously, and getting more and more of a ken'ish gil (translate: kentish girl!) by the day! Sounds quite peculiar when the kentish gets going and the lincs slips in every few words or so :-P can't help it though, I pick accents up very, very easily.

Oh I am so glad it isn't just me too. I can't do an accent deliberately but I slip into them so easily ans worry that people will think I am taking the mickey.

its the words for earwigs that always get me - there must be loads, we always called them 'Clipshears', further north they are 'Forkytails' or 'Horny gillochs' LOL
We always called the drains in the street 'sivers' and when the 'Cybermen' appeared in Doctor Who, I was terrified as I thought they were 'Sivermen' and would come up through the sivers when we were playing LOL

It is so easy to fall into different accents, and it is so embarrassing when its not yours!!!! I like to think I dont have an accent, but apparently Canadians do, but when I am chatting with different people with different accents, I totally fall into them (with some words)
For example: English accent mixed with Canadian. Its so weird.
I can do accents deliberately, the only one I have a hard time with is the Italian Accent. Still cant do that one.
ETA: After being on this forum, I may not have taken accents of course....lol....but now I find I am saying certain phrases that I see a lot on here.
By Nikita
Date 13.03.08 13:21 UTC
> It is so easy to fall into different accents, and it is so embarrassing when its not yours!!!! I like to think I dont have an accent, but apparently Canadians do, but when I am chatting with different people with different accents, I totally fall into them (with some words)
>
> For example: English accent mixed with Canadian. Its so weird.
>
> I can do accents deliberately, the only one I have a hard time with is the Italian Accent. Still cant do that one.
Italian gets me too, although I am picking bits and pieces up from Marco at work! :-P Welsh I struggle with too. Torchwood is helping on that front. lol :-)
I am just so easily influenced... if I watch a given series enough I'll start to pick up on the mannerisms of the characters. Firefly is fantastic for that - it's all over-worded sentences with a cowboy type lilt to it, and I love picking it up!
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