Has anyone travelled across to Sweden with their dogs before, and if so what route did you decide on? I hope to go with the dogs and was looking for some guidence. Dogs are all sorted with passports & all that jazz ( blood samples & all vaccines etc). how long do you think the journey would take in total from England to Stockholm ? Is anyone else planing on going?

tomorrow is the last day to enter at the reduced price ( and even that is not cheap)

I am planning to go with my two, although i am already on the continent, but have you tried google maps tp see how long quckiest route ect.

Regards

Deb

you got to take all your paper work from the kc regist form.pet passport.vacc card year one,flea and wormer so when you are readly to renter the uk it cheaper if you take it instead of the vet when you get check,
one think i would take is a scanner for the mirco chip.incase their dont pick it up,plus in now where my dog chips are laying
it takes up to two to three days to travel that what my friends in sweden said if you go bye eurotunnel.not shore on the boat from harwich to hook.
i would take hip/eyes test papers as well to cover your self.as the dog are vettted before going into the shows not like here.

Not sure where you are travelling from but we plan to go Eurotunnel and then drive up through Germany and Denmark and on into Sweden using the bridge. I think it is a 2 day drive each way but still prefer this to having the dogs caged on the ferry.

I am going and we have researched pretty much every possible way to get there as we have been trying to find the cheapest way. One thing you MUST make sure at first is that your dog's pet passport is up to SWEDISH standards as WELL as UK standards. To get INTO Sweden the blood test to check the rabies vaccination has been effective must have been taken no less than 120 days after rabies vacc -in the UK the rules are at least 30 days. To us that meant two blood tests (one after 30 days and another after 120) as we did not have time to vacc, wait 120 days, take blood, and then wait 6 months after that as the entire process then would have taken 10 months +.  So that is vital or you will not be let in to Sweden if you have travelled via other countries. (If you take a direct flight and therefore do not set paw in other countries, you do not need rabies vacc at all from England TO Sweden.)

If driving, shortest way is take ferry to Holland (takes about 12 hours) and then drive through Belgium, Germany, Denmark and  take bridge over to south Sweden. I have found that is also by far the most expensive alternative as the ferry for car, 2 people and dogs will cost around £400-£500 and you still have a lot of petrol costs left. Next alternative, channel tunnel and do the same but obviously starting in France instead. Cheaper still, take ferry Dover to Calais (about £100 for car 2 people and one dog -you must tell all ferry companies in advance you will have a dog as they do charge extra and in some cases like to Holland they will not be allowed to stay in car but kennel must be booked on board) and drive from Calais.

It's not possible to do it all in one day. We'll be starting in South Yorkshire, driving to Dover one day, staying over down south, taking ferry first thing next morning, then will have roughly 12 hours driving to get to southern Sweden from Calais, where we will stay with a friend over night. Then next day roughly a 6 hour drive from Southern Sweden up to Stockholm. We will not enter the breed show as well as the WDS due to cost and time, and have given us two full free days in Sweden without shows when we can rest (one before WDS one after), and in total it will then all take us 9 days.

It would have been a lot easier to take the ferry direct to Denmark or even Norway, but unfortunately NONE of them will accept animals onboard.

i would take hip/eyes test papers as well to cover your self.as the dog are vettted before going into the shows not like here.

No need for that, just vacc cert. :) And they only need distemper and that must have been done in the past 4 years.

i know of several people who simply dont believe all the unique rules for sweden and will be having a very expensive "driving holiday" without going to a dog show!!! Why dont people listen??

Yes I worry about this Sam, and it isn't even widely known by the vets issuing the passports here -mine knew nothing. We even had to contact the Swedish ministry to find out what to do about the second blood test results, as if my vet had noted it in the other space available for blood tests, that one is meant for a second test if the first had FAILED, and had we used that space we might not have been allowed back into the UK due to 6 months not having elapsed.The Swedish ministry said it must be noted at the last page under "Other".

thank for that detail on the blood test as my girl are going to be pet passport,
and that one place sweden is where they will be going either to be mated or shown

so if i read this read.
mirco chip or tattoo
rabie vacc
30 blood test for results for eu countrys
then another blood after the the last rabies vacc 120 days,

so to re enter the uk do you come back after 6 month on the 30 day blood test or 120 day.blood test.

so you cannot take a dog to sweden untill after 120 days test and wait for the result before entering sweden.

thank you for your help just need to be realy to tell my vet.

Briedog -if you go TO Sweden they will accept a tattoo, but if you have to come BACK to the UK the dog has to have a microchip. If you have the time the cheapest and easiest option is to rabies vaccinate, then wait at least 121 days (i.e more than 120), and then wait 6 months after that. Then the one test will be valid for both countries. (You can ENTER Sweden as soon as you have the blood test result, but you cannot come back to the UK until 6 months after the blood test.) The important bit is to not just do one test after 30 days as Sweden doesn't accept that, so either wait 121 days or do two tests. (UNLESS you FLY to Sweden straight from the UK, then it doesn't matter, it is only if you enter other countries as well.)

Complicated, isn't it!!

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got it
thank you.

> and it isn't even widely known by the vets issuing the passports here

Mine didn't know when I wanted to get my young bitch prepared to be able to go to any Scandinavian country when older I wanted to wait the 120 days.  In the event my girl failed and I didn't want to repeat the Rabies vaccination until a decent time had gone by, so will try again a year after the first.

The Vet was totally unaware of any other protocols than the UK re-entry ones.  Assuming other European and other countries only needed the Pet Passport with Rabies vaccination at most.

i going to get the girls done

i will go ahead and have blood test done at 30 day vacc beacuse the a dog in beligum for one of the girls

so i will have both 30 days and 121 day blood test so it give me the window of taken the girls to a shows end of the year to holland or beligum,

then have the vacc done at 122 days for sweden to get me op to go there for matings and showing,

Thanks to everyone for their replys. The dogs have had 2 blood samples taken (after 31 days & 121 days) They have all their vaccines & have the Chip scanner sorted.

Have looked in to ferries etc (i found that harwich to Hook of holland is a 6.5 hrs crossing not 12 hrs) and prices not too bad. considering I have to get from Ireland to england first of all, it may take me a bit longer to get there. Have a new Van booked, and the 3 of us will take turns to drive. 2 always awake and the other can have a kip in the back with the dogs.

Will finalise all the details at the weekend. Looking forward to the change of scenery.  Do you think entries at South Wales will be affected by this show ?

Also in relation to VETS & passports

The vets I use say the owner of the dog is responsible for ensuring that they know the regulations for the counties to which they want to travel. So many countries have small variations it is impossible for vets to know them all. I would always check things like this out for myself as (vets can get things wrong) then I know it is done right.

i am exporting a puppy to Sweden in April i have been in touch with defra and the buyer has enquired in Sweden
as the dog is one way and flying direct into stockholm apparently all thats needed is a pet passport    and micro chipped  so i hope thats right

Because it is coming from a rabies free country and is not returning all it needs is the passport :). and the new owner possibly needs to do something about an import license.

do the dog have to be test by blood for leptospirosis before enting sweden as well my vet said at one time they did ask fot that.
what about distemper!!

and i am right to put the 121 day blood on the pet passport on the page for others.

tangle just had her shoot today

No no lepto test. Distemper vacc is needed to get into the show -must have been done in past 4 years if dog is over a year old. Not needed to get into country. Yes the second test results go on page for other, signed and stamped by vet -this I  got from Swedish ministry when I asked them.

thank you

We had been told that if they have existing pet passports then it will be OK, jsut ones which are newly done need the 120 day rule - do your think we may have got the wrong info?

bye
Gwen

There must be a blood test done more than 120 days after rabies vacc if you are travelling via other countries, they will not accept the one done after just 30 days. Even if the pet passport was an existing one, if the blood etst was done just 30 days + after the vacc it won't be valid.
Swedish Info here in English
Press release from Swedish Ministry on World Show and rabies vacc etc

i have just rang sweden defra

yes you have to blood test after 120 day from rabies vacc,to entre sweden bye road and going through the other country.

but if you fly from the uk to sweden and sweden to theuk you dont not need the second blood test.

plus you got to flea/tick/worm before going as well.

another question tangle just had 3 year rabies vac so when the 3 years are  up. i have a booster but do you have to have a blood test after the booster,?

No, you don't need a blood test after the booster -if you keep up with the boosters that's all you'll ever have to do in the future.

You only don't need the blood test travelling from UK if the dog has not been outside the UK.

> No, you don't need a blood test after the booster -if you keep up with the boosters tha

I am having trouble getting to grips wiht this.  Clear about the traveling thorugh another country etc, and about the 120 day rule for the blood test for the dogs who recently had the pet passports done, but wht about the ones who have been done for years, and now have been boostered, theIR original blood test was done in line wiTH UK regs, do you think they are OK to go, or will they need a new blood test (which is obviously going to be more than 120 days after the original vaccination, as it will be over 3 years!)  Any ideas?
bye
Gwen

As far as I understand it, you must have a blood test then but maybe email the Swedish ministry to play safe? Or phone? Using English should not be a problem. Telephone (from the UK): 0046 36 15 50 00
Fax: 0046 36 19 05 46
Email: jordbruksverket@sjv.se

Thanks Marianne, will email them.
bye
Gwen

> do you think they are OK to go, or will they need a new blood test (which is obviously going to be more than 120 days after the original vaccination, as it will be over 3 years!)  Any ideas

You will have to have another blood test at least 120 days and less than 364 days since the last Rabies booster. 

So if the last booster is under a year old you just get the blood test done again and result should be back in time to go. 

For coming back in the original blood test will count, but care needs to be taken that the new blood test is not put on the page that the original one was put on as our authorities may assume a laps and not let you back in.  It needs to go on the others page as Marianne has written.

We are dealing with three seperate travel rules.  The EU wide Pet Passport which requires ID either tattoo or chip.

UK Pet Travel scheme requiring blood tesitng,  and titre levels and allows return to UK after 6 months from blood tes if titre level good, but dog must be treateed for ticks and tapeworms before travel.

Then additional blood test rules for Sweden which requires blood tesing later than we do ours.

when i was at the vet with tangle yesterday one of my friend has a leo and she was going to take her to the world show,told her all whats been said on here she didnt know about the 121 day blood test lucky for her she when home got her bitch to the vet blood test yesterday afternoon as the dog had her vacc and blood back in the summer,
if i didnt tell her she would have got to the swedish boards and being turn round to go home,

i wounder how many other uk dog and owner/breeder are going and dont know about this and think the uk p/p ok