My colleague persuaded me to watch Kerry Katona's show (crazy in love) and although I don't usually watch reality programs, I expected to be fun. Well was I wrong!!! :O I absolutely hated it and it made me so upset that I swore I'd never watch it again. First of all, I couldn't understand half of what they were saying...... quite frankly I don't know much about British celebrities, but my friend kindly explained who she was. Both her and her husband looked like they were either 10 year old kids or 2 completely crazy people on crack :( . It's shameful how producers let programs like that to be aired on TV!! I'm surprised that seeing all of that social services don't rush to their house and take the kids away.
The one thing that upset me the most was (from what I could gather, correct me if I'm wrong) the way they "exchanged" their old dog for a new one. Now that shocked me big time! The poor Bulldog was resisting being put in the van by strange people and she never even blinked. Hours later their new guard dog arrived......the thought of them having a proffessionaly trained guard dog scares me to death.
What kind of a message are they sending out??? If you're not satisfied with an old dog, simply exchange it!!?? Dogs are not things, they depend on us for the rest of their life.... shocking and sad!

Yes i saw one programme , I am surprised its allowed on tv. Also the poor kids, i would do a referral to SS.

Its not a good programe for the kids to be seeing , not a nromal life.

If it was one of my clients who was smoking crack SS would be involved! No doubt!

I can't believe her ex ( father of the 2 oldest) would of tried to get custody. Her life is pure mess!

I haven't watched it - don't want to either.

She is vile........nothing more to say really is there  :-(

I saw her on Richard and Judy the other week and thought she seemed completely off her face! She swore blind that she is off drugs now and said she has regular tests in order to be "allowed" to keep the kids. If that is true then the drugs have left a very obvious mark as she seemed very odd to me and rather unstable. Not at all like I remember her from a few years back. Very sad really.

She suffers from manic depression!(bipolar) this explains her radical mood changes
i do however think that her husband is a bad trigger and is only out for what he can get!
my best friend also suffers from this illness and has 3 children!
she is a very capable mother and has a large support network to help her when needed,
something that Kerry katona lacks!
if the SS (very apt name!) tried to take my friends kids they would have a war on their hands!
as for the drugs they might have left a mark on her but her behaviour is consistant with her illness

I just watched 2 episodes to see for myself (cant find the one with the dog being re-homed so cant comment on that) but she seems fine to me (as fine as someone could be with Bipolar)... I really cannot see why anyone would think her kids should be taken away, I feel incredibly sorry for her.

I look after adults who have Bi Polar, Based on Kerry's behaviour i wouldn't say her mood is based on her illness. I feel she uses it as an excuse. Using Crack when i charge of children and may be putting them at risk i think is enough for SS to be seeing her  I don't think she has put her self across at all well.

Just because she has a mental health problem doesn't excuse substane missue !

Again we don't no what goes on behind closed doors, Though what i have seen isn't good. She also complains of the " bad press" then does a show like this???

The last thing some one needs with bi polar or any mental health problem is cameras following them every where!

I saw the dog taken away and I could not belive it I really could'nt take it in, could she really do that the poor dog was really upset and so am I now. Think they are both nutters loved it when the shopping arived from ICELAND not to much fresh veg and fruit from them !!!

Nope, not a good environment for a child I'm sorry. I know a few people with manic depressions (I had to work in a hospital with bipolars and schizophrenics as part of my placement..... I was a psychology student) and that's not what I was referring to. It's her and her husband general attitude to life and lack of responsibilities. She was seen downing glasses of wine (she is pregnant after all and that is considered child abuse  where I come from), swearing like an old sailor and all of that can be seen on TV!!? :O
I blame him just as much quite frankly. Ileness like that or being married to a bipolar patient DOES NOT force you into behaving like a child. Specially since you have children of your own growing up in the same house. And for a supposedly professional person like that trainer is, to let a trained guard dog live with the family, is insanity. It's a ticking bomb and it can backfire faster than you can think ........

I agree with you Ory!!!

I used to watch her on the programme "loose women" after she became famous from her stint in the jungle and I always thought how together she seemed, a "celebrity" yet very down to earth she seemed to have it all a happy marriage (it was clear that she was totally in love with him!) and lovely children whom she appeared to adore also...then her marriage fell apart and she seems to have completely lost her way, drugs, fighting with people, lots of so called friends selling their stories and marrying someone who appears to just be after what he can get. She does magazine interview after interview, she is very crude when she is filmed (although I haven't watched the latest!) and she looks a complete mess!

I feel sorry for her but its her children that I feel the most sorry for although i don't know that they would be much better off with a dad who hardley seems to see them! :-(

Agree, i found it heart breaking seeing that poor dog being traded in for a new model, how very sad!! they are obviously very unstable, they don't act like adults, i feel sorry for the kids.

I watched it on the internet mtv channel as my friend said it was total car crash tv and she wasn't far wrong!!

I agree with what has been said she is playing way too much on her bipolar like its something to be proud of or even as an answer to her behaviour!! theres 3 stages or levels of bipolar and i wouldn't even put her into one of them..

I read people (not here) think shes clingy to her husband and always after reassurance but when i saw it i don't think so i think she knows what she is doing and trying to come across as this lost puppy, shes not as thick as she looks!

although im not a fan of hers i read her autobiography once and her life has been far from normal....her mum is manic depresive & kerry was in n out of foster care from a young age,doesnt know who her dad is and was forced to watch her mum bein stabbed by her mums partner....she also had 2 constantly talk her mum out of commitin suicide while she was only a child so i think its fair to say shes had it tough.

i hope that watching herself will make her realise she needs help for her kids sake and her own.

To be fair people with bipolar do not act the way she does, and i think its a travesty shes highlighting bipolar in that way..

People don't have to have had a bad upbringing to have bipolar there is very rarely a found cause although its likely its inherited in some way.. shes just made a mockery of the illness in my eyes..
Just to add people with bipolar can appear most often as very emotionally detached to their surroundings..

I think she may be one of those people who use bi-polar to cover up a personality/attitude disorder,just like some parents claim their kids have ADD when in reality their just bratty kids!

>I think she may be one of those people who use bi-polar to cover up a personality/attitude disorder,just like some parents claim their kids have ADD when in reality their just bratty kids!

Someone who thinks the same as me :)

...............and me!!  :)

Just a thought but she may well be playing upto the camera's as well as do most of these celeb reality shows they broadcast !

The more car crash it is the better viewing figures they will get ;-)

My views on Kerry alter from day to day.
Some days i feel incredibly sorry for her. She wasnt brought up in great circumstances, her first husband cheated on her with a lap dancer on his stag do, her marriage failed, she was a single mum, most of her friends and family and have sold stories on her.
On the other hand, she has admitted taking drugs while around the children and is seen drinking and smoking while pregnant. If she had any sense she would do it behind closed doors without a camera in her face. And she is known for saying all the wrong things which get peoples backs up. She said recently she cant guarantee that shes never going to touch drugs. This is true and honest (like an alcoholic can never guarantee they wont touch a drop again) but i think she needs to think before she speaks.
im not a psychologist and dont know enough to comment on the bi-polar but she has looked almost drugged up in some of her interviews.
i've only watched the first 2 episodes of her MTV Crazy in love documentary and actually thought Mark seemed quite normal and OK (??!!)

I dont know whether i like her or not, but the programme is much watch tv which is what they're aiming for. Car crash tell sells!

She may have Bi-Polar but she DID still take drugs and drink with her first or 2nd pregnancy that is completely out of order.

She is what I call ' self made problems' for that I have no sympathy for anyone apart from her children. :(

If i had the upbringing she did then i may have turned out like her too.
She has no mother to be a role model for her, and joined Atomic Kitten when she was very young. Too much too soon i think but can't blame her for trying to better herself and escape from her family at a young age.

http://www.bipolaraware.co.uk/truefacts.html

Interesting it says drugs and alcohol abuse occur in 60% of cases.

I do say that she is suffering from this and part of her behaviours can be associated with the condition. I also think her childhood has a factor in her condition as well.

Manic depression is an awful illness and can affect people in many ways and is not always 'text book' . My sister and mother have both suffered from the conditon and both materialis the symptoms materialise in very different ways.

Sorry Freds mum but I found that last comment sweeping and not at all true.

I had a very bad childhood, terrible infact, my mum ''kidnapped'' me at 4 years old from my father, before dumping me back on my dad 6 months later when she was bored with me for a mere £5000 cash in hand, and then no contact since that day, I am now 22.
I have a perfectly stable family, a stable dog and a stable home and have never in my life been anything like Kerry. I find it insulting when people say' well, bad childhood thats why their like that' that is a cop out and nothing less on behalf of the person and the person saying the comment.
If I can make something of myself and be a stable humourous individual then so can bloody she with her money to keep her happy in mind and body as well. She doesnt have to pay taxes that nearly cripple her and bills that one cant find money for,so she has NO reason to be so sorry for herself, she needs to grow up and grow a damned back bone, I dont binge on drink and drugs for my past, OK Ive dabbled but never felt the need to lose all control and blame everyone else apart from myself.
Having a bad start makes one want to do better, not worse. She is just a self made problems person and im fed up of hearing about her woes, if she doesnt like it then stop putting herself in the limelight, simple.

Sorry to rant but really gets to me when people say that.

Well Done Rach85, for making a good life for yourself in spite of having not a good start.  Your Dad obviously did a good job bringing you up, to his credit, and your Mum IMO was the 'loser'.  Re:- Kerry Katona, what is wrong with the legal system in this country whereby a 'celebrity' can admit to being involved with illegal substances and nothing is done about it??

i said if i had the upbringing she had then i may have turned out like her. Im not saying all people do, but its undersatndable that they go off the rails if they've been through that.
You said you yourself had "dabbled". Sme poeple dont know when to stop. Luckily you only "dabbled" but some take it further into a full blown addiction like Kerry.
Im sure Kerry would give up all the fame and money to live a "normal life" and not be plagued with mental health issues. i dont really think income comes into it.

but bear in mind some people cant bounce back like other people.....shes been a celeb since the age of 17 and unfortunatly their world is rife with drugs...but having that husband & max clifford as her agent i think we'l be seeing alot more of her,she is giving birth on the show iv heard.

but bear in mind some people cant bounce back like other people.....shes been a celeb since the age of 17 and unfortunatly their world is rife with drugs
So what??

Plenty of people who have got much more serious problems then her (IE their parents have both passed away, abuse) and live in ghettos, bad parts of town and where murder is common place and they are not messed up on drugs blaming everyone else , she is pushing away all that is good and putting her children through emotional hell.
She needs to take responsibility for her OWN actions and pull it together for her childrens sake, it doesnt help everyone always feels sorry for her.

Bouncing back ir not, you would damned well try for your kids sake and stop trying to make money out of your so called problems by having a fly on the wall documentry, thats just milking it for money and that is sad sad sad.

People are affected with this differently , by the sounds of it  Rach you ended up having a good up bringing by your father. You were perhaps lucky not to be with your mother.

I don't think Kerry K had any such luck she had a crap mother and not father.  Her mother had a few boyfreinds along the way who were also awful. The child also grew up with a mother that then came out as a lesbian.  This is hard for kids.

Now to make matters worse and I think we all have forgotten this, she was an unstable young girl who found her prince in Brian. On to have the carpet pulled from her feet once again by his infidelities on his stag night.

Some people cope some dont.

I havent watch the show and have no plan to but wanted to just point out some people do have a worse reaction to things than others.

PS Rach you need to knock the swearing on the head even if only mild.

Whoops! Sorry Blue xx

I se whwre you come from vbut she still could have tried a little harder to keep her morale and decency about her.

What I think happenes is that these young starts (Britney Spears, Kerry Katona etc) They love the partying lifestyle using whatever excuses if needed to get away with it (Bad chilhood etc) and then one day want children. They then reliase that they cant party and have kids at the same time as the news will be all over them calling them bad mums and how bad their children are treated. My opinion is the media are to blame for such sudden downhil sudden spirals as they are normal people who want a normal life, the amount that Britney has to put up with is disgusting, Kerry should look at her and see how lucky she actully is to still have her kids and family.

I wish Kerry would stop using her childhood as an excuse (And any other Joe Bloggs who says it as well) and say instead 'This is my life and im gonna take control of it! If not for me, for my kids!'' :)

Rach how can you cay to stop using childhood as an excuse. You dont know what she went through. She may have gone through something 100 times worse than you. You dont know, none of us do. it is unfair to judge her like that and say just get on with it when you dont know the full background.
As someone who says she didnt have a great experiance younger in life, i would think you'd be more understanding.

Like somebody else said I have varying feelings on her, some days I have sympathy other days she makes me mad. BUT....

I don't think that anybody can say her condition wouldn't make somebody like that. All mental health problems affect people in different ways. My Dad had mental health problems and I tend to suffer from depression too. Somedays I am high as a kite thriving on life, other days can't bring myself to get out of bed(that was when I was very bad, been alot better). But just because that is how I am doesn't mean that somebody with the same condition will act the same way. So in that way I feel sympathy for her because anybody can say pull yourself together and it isn't as easy as that. You can't help the way your mind works.

On the other hand I just cannot condone the smoking while pregnant, drinking while pregnant and taking drugs with her children about. It does make me wonder what frame of mind she is in as you would think if somebody in the public eye was going to smoke while pregnant she would do it in private rather than in front of the cameras.

Shows what her mother is like when she would rather sell her story to the newspapers about Kerry than get her daughter the help she so obviously needs. I do hope she gets some help.

i agree and remember the story about her taking drugs in front of her kids was published in the sun newpaper which her mum got £10000 for !

Ha...and we all know the Sun writes highly respected factual stories :-)
I dont condone her for smoking/drinking/taking drugs while pregnant but how do we know its true shes snorting coke or smoking 20 a day. Yes we've seen pictures of her smoking but how do you know thats not the first one shes had in days??I know any smoking is wrong but we've all got our vices and the papers are known to greatly exagerate things.
No wonder the girl goes off the rails when the papers are hounding her waiting to get a picture or a quote that they can turn around to keep up the image they've made of her as some drug addicted psycho.
Totally agree that all mental health issues are different and we are in no position to judge on Kerrys battle

Then she goes and does a TV show , and more people are talking about her.!

And its in the press again!

If she did nothing wrong..........the press wouldn't be interested, so if she doesn't want the press attention, she should keep her nose clean! (no pun intended! :) )

Yes and look at ther PR agents and Managers as they have a great part in the way they are portrayed and their behaviour. Britney Spears is a classic example of this as her Manager is now sacked and has a restraining order to stay away from her.

Some of these celebs are not blessed with alot of brains and so can easily be exploited.

I personally feel kerry falls into the latter and knows full well that she can exploit her 'illness' for the sympathy vote, theres no need for a PR team to do that for her as she plays the game pretty much well on her own..
Drugs for bipolar don't make you dopey the first few days maybe (for an hour or so) but if shes skipping meds for a few days shes going to go through the same issues of getting back on them again so that to me means she doesn't take it seriously! so why should we!

I thought she was pregnant ? That will have a major effect on any medication she is or is not taking. My sister was really bad during her pregnancy as she didn't take any medication when she had a really bad episode.

She was also only diagnosed a couple of years ago and not everybody accepts the condition and so alot of people battle with coming to terms with it, not say she is one but it cannot be ruled out.