Have to restart this thread as I bit the bullet and went along to WW.
Now 13.2 and will get to 11 stones, I will, I will.
Karen ;-)

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Course you will, ww is one of the best diets around, its the only one that has worked for me.

My friend went on the Lighter Life one (£66) a week for soups and shakes, and she was ill . Her doc told her to stop the diet as they receommended 8 pints of water a day, and that could drown you !!!!!!  She has now started ww and lost 3.1/2 lbs in her first week.

>My friend went on the Lighter Life one (£66) a week for soups and shakes, and she was ill . Her doc told her to stop the diet as they receommended 8 pints of water a day, and that could drown you !!!!!!  She has now started ww and lost 3.1/2 lbs in her first week.

Sorry but this is a very damaging statement.  Lighter life is controlled by doctors, and you are checked by a doctor before you start.
Yes 8 pints might be dangerous if you drink it all in one go, but the 8 pints is over a period of a whole day. And have you heard of anyone drowning from drinking 8 pint a day on the lighter life diet????
Different diets dont work for everyone, and some make people ill while others thrive on it, but that doesnt mean you can make a sweeping statement like that which will scare alot of people that those sort of diet6s will help.One of my running partners who is now running 5 miles in one go at about 10 minute mileing is on the lighter life diet and is perfectly healthy to the point of upping her mileage,
Lea.

Lea, jump down out of the saddle!!  :-P

I haven't heard of Lighter Life but if it is based on shakes & soups and costs you £66 a week, then it really isn't changing your eating habits & is very expensive too - you could eat nutritious meals for half that each week.    No-one can spend their life on soups & shakes for fear off putting weight back on, you need a balanced diet with protein, carbohydrate & fat and to eat in moderation.

WW is the best out there I think, that's probably why it's been going the longest.   I went there as a dumpy 16 year old when it was QuickStart and lost 2 stone in just under 6 months, it gave a me a varied selection of meals (Including veggie ones for pains like me!), 3 meals a day & snacks if you wanted extra.

I am not saying other diets dont work!!!
I am all for healthy eating WW etc and will back anyone that does any healthy eating plan/diet/excercise etc.
But making a statement that is saying lighter life could drown you when I know there are a few people on here on it is not a statement that should be made.  And am sure liable could come into it!!!
Lea :)

I'll take people's £66 a week and give them some soups & shakes & run off to the bank laughing!   ;-)

> I'll take people's £66 a week and give them some soups & shakes & run off to the bank laughing!   

It, isnt just supplying them. The do councilling as well!!!!!
I was dubious when mum first went on it. BUT now, at the age of 58 she is lighter than she ever has been, and she is healthier!!! I wont go into it again as you can do a serch and find whgat I put in a previous post, but she tried every diet going to loose weight, and nothing worked but that.
Over a year oon she is still the weight she wants to be!!!
I can understand it would be alot if it was just throw shakes at you and go, but in the scheme of things, for the results I have seen on several people, it is good :)
As I say, not all diets work for everyone.
Ex used to do the Atkins diet and thrive on it, mum did it and was ILL, that isnt to say the diet was the problem, it was the persons body not able to except the regime :)
Lea :) :)

I'll join you ChristineW!! 

Unfortunately my healthy eating took a turn for the worse at the start of the week but I've restarted behaving myself today and Anton and I are starting the running again tomorrow.

Drinking large quantities within a short period of time can be detrimental to your health and does not help to promote weight loss, so aim for small amounts at regular intervals. Think of your body as a water wheel which, to keep turning smoothly, needs small amounts of fluid all through the day.
From the website :)
I have seen the results with 4 people, and each of them are alot healthier (although one not as handsome nbeing thinner ;) )
I am not out to promote Lighter life, I just think what has been said is bordering on liable, especially seeing as she has put the same on 2 posts :)
Lea :) :)

Actually  quoting someone elses doctor so just being pedantic its hearsay ;-)

Probably!!! LOL
But I am just trying to find information to tell the people that are on CD that drinking all that water isnt going to drown them!!!!! LOL
Lea :)
Right, just found this :-
It's Not How Much You Drink, It's How Fast You Drink It!

The kidneys of a healthy adult can process fifteen liters of water a day! You are unlikely to suffer from water intoxication, even if you drink a lot of water, as long as you drink over time as opposed to intaking an enormous volume at one time. As a general guideline, most adults need about three quarts of fluid each day. Much of that water comes from food, so 8-12 eight ounce glasses a day is a common recommended intake. You may need more water if the weather is very warm or very dry, if you are exercising, or if you are taking certain medications. The bottom line is this: it's possible to drink too much water, but unless you are running a marathon or an infant, water intoxication is a very uncommon condition.

Taken from :- http://chemistry.about.com/cs/5/f/blwaterintox.htm

For how long have they kept the weight off?  Just being nosey.

mum just coming up a year and the other 2 coming up about 8 months. one running is still on it.
The thing is, it is the soups etc that gets the weight off, but its the councilling that helps keep it off. And it is not  just about what you eat, its about your self asteem  and confidence :D :)
Its like any diet though. Which ever works for you, if you are not willing to see it as a healty eating and excercise plan at the end of it there is no point in stating it :)
there is no point in starting any diet and expecting to go back to eating and excercising the same!!!
I will say, I run alot, and have done for 3 years. As soon as I stop I put on weight. I have so so so so much respect for anyone wishing to loose weight as cutting down on what I eat is not a great thing for me personally!!!
Luckily I have my running (and no I dont look like paula Radcliffe!!!!!!)
But I am 100% begind anyone that can go on a plan to make them healthier :)
Hope that canme outr the way I meant it to :)
Lea :) :)

Didn't Anthony Andrews overdose on water and he was neither running a marathon nor is an infant (Well not the last time I looked ;-) ).

I am living proof that 8 pints of water a day is ok !. I've always drunk lots of water but since I started eating more healthily towards the end of September I've often had 6-8 pints a day.
Sixty six pounds a week ?. Blimey - isn't it better to just eat a healthy diet (fresh food, no fizzy drinks, cut back on alcohol etc), exercise more and save your money to put towards a new wardrobe of clothes or a holiday ?.
I lost 22lbs between Sept 24th(approx) and Dec 20th and have maintained that weight - simply by eating what we all know is right and cutting the rubbish. It isn't rocket science !.

You get 'counseling' as part of your WW's meeting too, you also get tips on eating, exercise, cooking, tasting sessions etc.   It's not a quick slap your money on the table, get weighed & go (Unless you want it to be).

Just found this too.

But that isnt the norm. The diets have doctors that have looked at them and 4 litres of water over a day is ok.
I am not sayintg it didnt happen as me going out running and dropping dead from a heart attack could happen tommorow (and yes that has happened in my town) but it is very very rare, and as everyone has to be declared fit by a doctor (and I cant see all doctors wanting to say all is fine for something that will kill you) then it isnt as bad as made out, by alot of people just not on here!!! I have seen the reasults.
Lea :) :)

Christine......
It didnt say how long the water was drunk over. I have not questioned the fact that drinking alot of water over a quick period is a bad thing as it is drummed into me being a half to full marathon runner.
If you drink it over a shoprt period of time YES it cabn cause a problem, but the amount of water meant to be drunk is over a 14 ish hour period :)
We are not on doffernet sides as I agree too mucjh water quickly can harm , as I have found out from being ill fater a race, but over a period of hopurs it wont harm and has had doctors helping work out this diet :)
Lea :) :) :)

What about those that can down 6 pints of lager in an hour at the pub, is this just as detrimental as drinking the same amount of water in the same time?

Hi Lea

Don't want to get into an arguement, but what doctor gives you the go ahead for the lighter life diet!!!!! not one at the meetings,  my friend did not see any doctor.

What she was advised to do was make an appoinment at her surgery to get her blood pressure checked, this was done by the practice nurse.

I went into my friend house and found her in tears, saying she was so , so, hungry, and  she also felt bloted on all the water she had to drink, did not think she could manage this diet, I advised her to go to her doctor first and get his advice on what to do next, she was advised to stop this diet immediately and she asked if she could join ww and he said it was one of the best diets. 

I suppose it all depends on your will power if you could manage a diet like that, I know, first of all I could not afford it, but would rather make a good pot of home made soup with all the veg you need in it,  than have a soup for one meal and then a shake for the next.  Good luck to those who are doing well on it and I hope when they go back to eating "normal" foods they dont put on all the weight they have just lost.

Before joining the programme your GP or practice nurse will need to complete a health questionnaire to make sure you are medically suitable

I know around here you are sent to an independant doctor and had to fill in a questionaire and have a health check. And some people are not accepted on it for health reasons :)
As I said it is not a diet for everyone,I agree with you 100% on that one.
and for the first few days you dont feel brilliant, but all that should be explained at the start, and you need alot of support from family and friends :)
But what I have been trying to get over is that you dont drown through drinking that amount of water, which is what you said, which was scare mongering.
Lea :) :)

To the OP. WW is probably one of the best ways to go, and I am sure you'll do well on it. It does work, but obviously, just like every other diet, if you return to your previous way of eating once you get to your goal weight, the weight will go back on. Good luck!

With regards to Lighter Life. I get married in March and have put on two stone since buying my wedding dress, so it does not fit. I considered LL or Cambridge diet, and looke dinto it. Despite what it says ont he website, none of the 'counseller's' I spoke to encouraged me to go to my GP first, or even mentioned it to me. Some were quite happy for me to just pop round their house that day and collect what I needed to start the diet! I love my food, and was really unsure about following such a drastic weight loss programme, not least because it goes against everything we know is true about losing weight healthily and safely. In the end, I decided I just couldn't put myself through it, so instead have been following Slimming World, although at home, not attending meetings. So far since New year, I have lost 1st 2 1/2 lbs, which I think is pretty good, so hopefulyl I'll fit into my dress by march! Most importantly, I don't really feel ike I am dieting at all, and eat loads, just the right things.

Thanks Jackson....I've followed WW before and found it worked for me too, it simply means you can eat whatever you choose within sensible parameters.
I actually gained my little gold key, however 3 lots of surgery (ladies) later plus a family bereavement meant I lost any sense of what was wise! Then of course 2 stones later it was a matter of timing when it was right.
I looked at lighter life but know in my heart nothing is a replacement for sensible eating!
March is really close! A wedding is fantastic congratulations to you  :-)

Karen

When I did LL I had to get a medical from my own GP but because it is not standard NHS policy to do these I had to pay, think it was £20.  I also had to go back every 4 weeks for blood pressure checks from my own GP and if I did not have this and a surgery stamp on it I wasn't allowed to have any more packs.  All those who are slating it have obviously not tried it as it is very effective and works if you don't go back to eating rubbish.

Each to their own! ;-)

Not every diet will work for everyone, ww never worked for me!