Maybe someone could explain why bitches tend to cost more to buy than dogs? just something ive always wondered!

do they? we've never paid/charged more for a bitch. i suppose for puppy breeding, but if that were the case you'd think a dog would be more as he can reproduce as much as he wants.

Certainly doesn't happen in my breed.  The popularity of one sex over the other has varied over the years.  Post war dogs were far more popular and no-one wanted bitches as they had seasons.

When I came into the breed 15 years ago, a breeders nightmare was a litter of dog pups as everyone was told that bitches make better companions.

In the last five years I have noticed that people are just as happy with either sex.

As for reproduction, puppy buyers are not encouraged to breed unless they are prepared to get deeply involved in the breed and do things properly.  Most when they realise the costs and responsibilities prefer not to, even those already showing.  Most pyuppy owners neuter both sexes in my own expereince, often far too young.

As for stud dogs, your are lucky even if your champion suits a bitch owner for breeding, and no one will get rich on the few opportunities a dog may have in my breed.

you usually only see it in adverts in the newspaper for puppies bred by people who are "pets" and they dont really know what they are doing

i have to admit, most of the time i see bitches being more expensive are on ads in pet shops, newspapers and sometimes on the internet. i just thought it was 'the norm' and wondered why. obviously experienced breeders dont do that. was just curious as i didn't understand why one sex would be worth more than the other

Would be to a puppy farmer of Back Yard Breeder.  To churn out pups you need more bitches than dogs, and if you have several breeds nowadays one randy poodle stud would do, so to them a bitch woudl be more valuable.

Nope, we charge the same for dogs and bitches!

It wouldn't occur to me to charge different prices for dogs and bitches. 

As far as I am aware they are generally more expensive in my breed but I have also never understood why?!

people charge more for bitches than dogs because they see it as you can make more money out of a bitch

Cant work that one out, Hayley - surely it is the other way round for breeders who are in it for money.

It's the same principle as the puppy farmers who will sell you a 'breeding' pair. It gives the message that if you buy the bitch you too can jump on the puppy mill band-waggon.
As for one off pet-bred litters, the owners read other ads to see how to word theirs, including cost, frontlined, 60 champions in pedigree etc etc.

im a bit confused can you explain how it works the other way round please?

A dog can sire far more puppies than a bitch can have, plus the owner has no rearing costs.

right i see what you mean but only the best dogs get lots of bitches, so a bitch could make more money than a dog in lots of cases

on both my breeds and when i had litter i have sold the bitch at the same price as the dogs.weather they are black or liver in colour,and the same in the spanish water dog,

and all mine are sold as pets.

If you have a bitch you get to choose if she has a litter. If you have a dog there are no guarantees that people will want to use him. So people who want to be sure of a litter will buy a bitch - so they're often charged a bit more.

thanks for that , you explain things really well, stuff i write even confuses me at times lol

It does happen in my breed, specially from the top kennels..... a show prospect bitch will /can fetch more than a pet one.. (I guess the reason being, you can make more money out of a bitch, than a dog)

But gladly , these  breeders are few.....most will charge the same for a dog /bitch/show quality or not..... the only ones (across the board)  that will fetch less (usually half price) are the white pups.

I have a litter at the moment and have been surprised at the amount of people asking how much i charge for dogs and how much for bitches, so a lot of people seem to expect to pay different prices for dogs and bitches. I charge the same whether it's a dog or a bitch.

I expect the difference is down to a bitch being able to produce puppies.A dog can only sire them, you wouldn't have pups to sell.

I wouldn't charge more, though I only had 2 boys this time. My friends also said I was mad not to charge double for the one going to America which rather shocked me, I thought the price was the price wherever the puppy would live!

IMO it is unreasonable to charge a premium for a puppy going overseas and I have never done it nor would I.  It is of course perfectly reasonable to include the additional costs of vacs, microchip, export paperwork for the KC, vet certificate, customs requirements etc - and certainly the new owners are already paying dearly for importing new stock in view of the expenses incurred in shipment :)

Some breeders may also think it reasonable to add on extra for holding a puppy for a little longer but personally I don't think the price of feeding a puppy for an extra 2-3 weeks or so (as is the case for exporting to the US prior to 12 weeks whereafter they would need a rabies course) justifies bumping the price :)

regards, Teri

Quite agree.  I have exported pups and have only ever charged the normal rtate plus any additional expenses involved with export. 

Ah but you ladies have that desired breed trait.... integrity!  :D

lol, ah yes, champ doggers bred for composition, movement, fabulous looks, integrity and wisdom on all things doggy :D

thats what i thought-bitch 2 litters a year if your lucky, as brainless said above one randy dog can make you lots of (very dodgy ) money

Yes, we've agreed they are paying all extra costs such as microchips, export pedigrees, and of course shipping, though as I've always sworn never to put a dog in the hold, they are coming over and flying him back in the cabin with them. I think it would be very 'off' to then double the price too! Of course my breed costs nearly 3 times as much in America as in the UK, that's how my friends get away with it!

its good you've obviously got people who really want your pups lucy, it's a long way to come. can't see why anyone would charge more for this situation (excepting costs). i'd feel very comformtable about people willing to come that far for a pup, shows dedication, a very desirable trait in a new owner!

Now if only I could find a home I was as happy with for his brother....

i'm sure you will!