Hi I'm new to all this I have a pug she was born may 16th 2006 and we also got her a male a couple monthes later for when we are not home well she went into her second or third heat and now I'm pretty sure she is pregnant. I have never breed any dogs i don't really know what i;m doing I got the mother from some people in our town she was not registered but her non had bo problems with birth and you can tell she is a purebred and my male has papers and came from a champion line. I don't know what to expect at all how long she  will be pregnant. nothing if anyone sould please give me some advice i would appriciate it. this happened at the beginning of dec. any feedback would be greatly appriciated. thank you

buy ,the book of the bitch this book will give you details on every thing ,
i would get her check out by a vet,
when was her last heat
it could be a false pregnanys

she had her heat the begginng of dec and thats when he gor her and then i didn't think that she was pregnant but now her nipples are huge and her stomach is getting hard and i just don't know shes acting funny to she wom't leave my side which she is like that normally but not this bad

Ok, Are we going to say that her heat started the beginning of Dec, if so most bitches 'as a norm' will be fertilized between 10-16 days.  So if she began her season then she will be due anytime from the 11th FEB.

If she was already at approx week 2 of her season at the beginning of December she will be due from the last week of January.

Get her straight to your vet for a scan, that way you will know immediately whether she is having a phantom or carrying pups, your vet can also then advise on a frequent check of her to see whether there are likely to be problems or not too.

If she started her season at the beginning of December then she'd most likely have been mated around the 12th or 13th December. That would mean her litter would be due round about the 14th February. It'd be unusual for there to be signs of a genuine pregnancy so soon - she'd only be about 3 weeks pregnant and the whelps would only just be implanting. Or did her season start in mid-November with her fertile period (and mating) at the beginning of December? That would make her a little more advanced, with a litter due at the beginning of February.

If you don't want her to have a litter the vet can give two injections, 24 hours apart, of a product called Alizin (in the UK - it might have a different name where you are) which is supposed to terminate pregnancies up to 45 days after mating.

In any event I personally would get her to the vet to be scanned to see if she was pregnant or whether this is a phantom, or worse, an infection.

Hi Sebrina

Jeangenie's advice of getting to a vet is very sensible.  You will then have more idea of where you stand and he/she can tell you what your options are.  Were you intending to breed from here?  I would assume not, as you bought an unregistered bitch? 

It sounds from your posts that you have a very busy life and are out of the house a lot.  This is not at all ideal if you are planning to raise a litter of puppies.  Most of us who belong to this site spend the first three weeks eating and sleeping with mum and pups.  New mums can get anxious and need reassurance and clumsy bitches can squash and kill a young puppy.  If I was in your position, with an unplanned litter looming, I would talk to the vet about terminating the pregnancy (if there is one!).  As JG has written, there are injections you can use, or even the possibility of spaying your bitch now, which would avoid this happening again. 

You also mentioned registering your bitch with a different registry.  In my opinion, this sort of registration is not worth the paper it's written on.  It's just meaningless if anyone can just hand over their money, fill in some forms and that's it, the dog is now registered.  With the proper registration bodies, they check that the parents are registered, and in this country, will put the results of health tests on the registration papers.

Best wishes
Carina

I have to agree with ridigielover -the safest and easiest option for yourself and for the dogs would be to get the bitch spayed now -remove any foetuses which at this stage would only be tiny, and make sure there are no more seasons which will make life a lot easier as the dogs won't have to be separated during each season -that alone is a lot of hassle.

If she has these pups and isn't spayed, you need to find a way to keep your dogs apart, for each and every season, and also for when there are pups -most bitches will absolutely not accept any other dog near them when they have pups and there could be serious fights. You also need to stay at home with mother and pups for weeks.

Dear, dear, dear,

Not a good introduction to dog breeding is it? You think you've mated a dog and bitch, you don't know anything about breeding, your bitch is not KC registered, so the pups won't be either, I doubt she is even health checked, is she even fit and well enough to breed from, has she had a thorough examination from your vet at all? Or even whether you know or not whether the stud dog was even a good match for her? :-( these are all things that need to be done well before the thought of breeding your girl is even in your mind.

I wish that you had come on the forum long before for some expert advise on how to go about the right way to breed.

I guess this is a little 'after the horse has bolted' but.................

Have you got enough time to learn all you need to know for preparing for a litter, and how to deliever pups? 9 weeks is all you have!

To be honest if you don't have breeders insurance and no knowledge of how to deliver breech births, reviveing pups, and how to care for the bitch and pups, it could end up extremely costly, with a possibility of your bitch and pups dying. :-(  Many have and will continue to die due to the owner not knowing what they are doing.

If your bitch needs a c-section it may cost upto £1,000, can you afford that? You need to go out and buy a full whelping kit and whelping box/crate bedding, good quality puppy complete food for the bitch and the pups etc, etc, 

As suggested go and buy the book of the bitch just for starters to help with the basics, if you don't feel competant, my advise would be to go and see your vet about an injection for your bitch to remove the pups, (if there are any) I hope that your bitch is going to be ok, but please think of her first, breeding and raising pups is no walk in the park, you need to know what you are doing. :-)

I think it is far to late to give a lecture now Carrington and not at all helpful. Could anyone else who wishes to respond to this thread please offer advice. Many thanks :) Please also be aware that the breed has been left in this thread because it may be relevant to the information offered.

She has been vet checked just not in the past month. If she needs a c-cection i will get that done i have money put away for emergencies. I tried to keep them seperated while she was in heat and i left and my sitter was not very responsible. The vet did tell me if i ever wanted to breed her she was heathy to so do so but i was not ready for this now. thank you for your advice i'm going into town tom and looking for that whelping kit and go friom there. thw last thing i want to happen is something happen to my baby thats been my baby since i brought her home. They are only pregnany for 9wks the lady at the pet store told me 3 monthes i keep getting told all this stuff and i just don't know where to begin. I'm scared and I just want missy to have a safe happy birth. I thought about registering her with ckc so you know abything about that??? My male is registered with akc. Thank you for the quick respose I have been working alot and usually cant get on much but they gave me tom off thank god please let me know what else i can do thank you again sebrina

Have a look on ebay for a whelping kit, I've seen the best buys on there.

Do you have a date at all sebrina?  If so we can work out for you the due date or there abouts.

As admin has pointed out your breed is relevant, did your vet explain to you how many pugs do have a problem in natural whelping due to their pups large heads so a c-section may very well be relevant. You may also need to look into caring for the pups with heat lamps, pads etc.

Most of all can your girls breeder or possibly your boys help you at all, it would be invaluable for you to find a pug breeder to help with everything whom is close to hand.

"I thought about registering her with ckc so you know abything about that???"

Sebrina, as you are not in the UK, could I ask you to not abbreviate things as we may not have them in the UK. What is CKC?

Unfortunately for you, your vet might not have been the best person to advise you on breeding her - vets are not experts in the various breeds, and as long as a dog is "healthy" they are not necessarily concerned with the correctness of the breed :(

I see that you are in Ohio, so can give you very little on the spot advice.  However, over here in the UK (you did realise that this is a UK-based forum, didn't you) unless both dogs are registered with the Kennel Club, and their pedigrees are not endorsed, then the offspring cannot be registered with any REPUTABLE registration council, and from what I understand it is the same in the US - only AKC registered dogs can be registered.

Please get a copy of "The Book of the Bitch" - you can get it from Amazon.com.   This will tell you how the pregnancy should progress, and what you will need in the way of equipment - even if you go down the route of a ceasarian - and as I have very little knowledge of pugs, I'm not able to advise you as to whether she is likely to whelp successfully or not.   What I do know is that the short-faced breeds can have many problems in rearing a litter, and can also experience problems with anaesthetics :(

If she is pregnant - and I would advise having her scanned 28-35 days after the day your dog got to her, and you decide that you are going to let her have puppies, and not elect for the Alizin, you are going to have to arrange for at least a couple of weeks off work, when she has the puppies - we never leave our puppies for any longer than going for a pee/putting the kettle on - for the first two weeks - they get 24/7 attention.   Once weaning starts (which can be from 10 days to 4 weeks) you have to be prepared to feed the puppies 4-5 times a day, depending upon their size, and also you will then have to take over from Mum in cleaning up poo-ey puppies - and this lovely task is yours until they leave for their (hopefully) forever homes at around 7-8 weeks of age - and believe me, puppies do make mountains of poo!

Talk seriously to your vet - only you know just how much time you can give to the rearing of a litter - to do it properly, you cannot do it unless you are prepared to put your life on hold for three months.    She might need a ceasarian - which could put her life at risk, and you could finish up having to hand-rear the puppies.

I have been in the position of having an accidental mating and I went down the Alizen route, with no ill-effects - and I did have my boy neutered not long after - having mated once, he would try it again with any of my other girls if he possibly could - and that was just not in my plans.

Its a hard decision to make - but do think carefully of all the implications involved in having a litter when you have absolutely no experience - don't let your heart rule your head without getting as much informed advice as possible.   As your boy is registered, could you talk to his breeder?    Ideally, if you do decide to go ahead with any pregnancy, you need to find a good mentor, preferably one who has a bitch due to whelp before yours would, so that you can experience birth and puppy rearing.

Do let us know what you decide.

Margot

I think it stands for Continental KC - one of the mickeymouse, take your money and give you papers organisations that mean absolutely nothing. The only reason I can think of for doing such a thing would be that you could possibly ask more for the 'registered' puppies from gullible buyers.:rolleyes:

If it is less than 45 days since she was mated you can have an injection to terminate the pregnancy (Alizin) or alternatively the bitch can be spayed.

Pug breeding is not easy, with bitches most often needing C sections and often they are totally clueless about motherhood. 

Unless your experienced please do not go ahead with a litter as you could easily loose your bitch.

Why did you not have her spayed after her first season?

There is a very experienced Pug breeders on this forum who also does Pug rescue and I am sure she would advise the same.  Hopefully she will see your post.

Hi JS.  I know about your breed and about breeding your breed also.  I also bred a litter recently who will be going to their new homes this week.  I can tell you that pug breeding is not easy.  You need to be very careful with the bitch.  Firstly due to the fact that it is her first litter.  Pug bitches don't get that motherhood feeling straightaway as in some other breeds.  They have difficulty opening the sacks to let the pups breath when they are born.  They can have problems expelling the pups due to the fact that the pups are born with rather large heads and not all bitches of the breed have the correct anatomy to do that.  This can mean that you can be faced with the problems of a C section which along with being expensive is also a major operation.  You then need to ensure that after birth the mum starts to feed the pups.  This is something which you need to watch for many days in the beginning because some of them just don't want to do it.  You need to watch that she is stimulating them properly.  If not you have to do it or you need to encourage her to do it.  During the first few days alone there is so much work to be done to ensure that the mum becomes a mum.  With myu bitches I have always been lucky but who knows in the future.

If you are not sure about this then I would agree with all of the others in getting her to the vet for that injection before its too late. 

Then again it could be a fantom pregnancy.  Pugs are also very prone to fanoms.  Just needs a young male who isn't sexually active yet trying to mate the bitch when she is in season and you find yourself with what seems to be a pregnancy and all the signs of milk etc etc.  Then you need to get rid of the milk too. 

Best advice I can give you is to get her to the vets without delay to check the actual situation.  You really need to know if she is pregnant or not.  If not you need to get something done about her milk if she has any.  If she is then you need to decide what to do about the pups.  I know it seems very harsh but if you won't be able to be with the bitch full time for at least a week before and after the birth then you should seriously consider terminating the pregnancy.  Before and during the birth you need to be with the bitch.  You cannot leave her alone to give birth.  You need to be there and you need to help with the birth.  Consider well before making your decision.  If you need more info then fell free to pm me.

Hi Sebrina,
I have just read this forum and I think there is very good and very sound advice.
When did her seasom start? Did anyone actually see them mated? It does seem you bought a bitch with no papers, didn't wait to get her spayed before buying then a dog with papers. This was a problem just waiting to happen.  I can not speak about this breed, but can you not give her the injection and get her spayed. If you are detemined to breed from her at least wait till you have done all your reasearch and have plenty off time off.
Good Luck.

Hi Sebrina,
I can understand your must be very worried, and will try to give you all the help and advise I can, if you want  I breed pugs in the UK, but have "Pug friends" in the USA, if you like I can find out if any are in or near your area, and would be prepared to "Mentor" you.  However, I cannot guarantee that you will nothave to put up wiht a lecture about responsible breeding from them first!

The advise you have been given about getting her scanned is vital, so you know  that she really is pregnant  IF she is you have a lot of decisions/preparation to make. Supposing she is pregnant and you decide to let her go on with the pregnancy not only will you need a full wheping kit, but also time off work!  Lots and lots of pug bitches not only need major assistance throughout the whelping (supposing they do not actually need a C section) they also do not take to motherhood.  Some come round to it in a few days, some will let the pups do assisted feeding, and some just want nothing to do with them. So you are going to need several weeks of work to raise the litter. Plee feel free to either PM me or click on my profiel and email me if you want to aks questions.

bye
Gwen