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Topic Dog Boards / General / The cleanist breeds?
- By nic29 [gb] Date 10.12.07 13:40 UTC
Hi

We own Shar Pei and have to say that they housetrain themselves and never ever have any accidents.  They also have all cleaned themselves like a cat every day.

I know Shar Pei are know to be very clean and easy to housetrain but I wondered what other breeds are also?

Just being nosy!

thanks

nicky
- By Tigger2 Date 10.12.07 14:09 UTC
Borzois are also incredible easy to housetrain, even as very young pups I think mine only ever had one accident in the house. Collies on the other hand although brighter aren't as easy :rolleyes:
- By Brainless [gb] Date 10.12.07 15:28 UTC Edited 10.12.07 15:32 UTC
I think most Northern/Spitz breeds are known for their cleanliness and low dog odour.  I find puppies in my breed want to get out of the whelping box by 3 weeks to toilet away from their beds..
- By sam Date 10.12.07 17:04 UTC
elkhounds low odour:eek::confused: 
- By Brainless [gb] Date 10.12.07 17:10 UTC
definitely, unless they rolled in something ripe. :cool:  It is one of the traits often metnioned, but I agree the coat is/should be odourless, but of course they do breath and pass wind as any other dog does.
- By nic29 [gb] Date 10.12.07 17:17 UTC
This is something where I think Shar Pei are different then - never ever have one of mine rolled in anything nasty - they have never even trod in anything dirty nor sniffed it! 
- By Brainless [gb] Date 10.12.07 17:21 UTC
Only ever had one of mine who liked to roll (a couple e of others were easily discouraged as puppies), but then it isn't an unusual thing for a hunting dogs to do as it would help disguise their scent.  All but that one would studiously avoid mud or a puddle, but she was a mud puppy :D  God forbid if a dog had dirtied in the show ring they would move around the area or jump over it, and I have seen most of a class veer away from a contaminated area.
- By sam Date 10.12.07 19:54 UTC
:eek:blimey the ones that used to live next to us were really pongy....in fact it was the main thing i recall about them (:mad:apart from the incessant barking!)
- By Brainless [gb] Date 11.12.07 01:02 UTC Edited 11.12.07 01:05 UTC
The barking I can believe, but I don't know how they must have been kept to smell?  The barking can be limited by training, and there is no excuse for them to smell.

My friend who has Border collies could never understand that by the time she got the Elkhound home after a wet muddy walk she was absolutely clean and neat as a pin and the Border collies looked like dish rags.
- By malwhit [in] Date 10.12.07 19:17 UTC
I've found my Mini Schnauzers easy to house train - but a Pembroke Corgi I had was terrible and was not fully housetrained until she was about 18 months.

We also had a Whippet when I was a lot younger - she almost 100% clean from the day we got her home at 8 weeks old.
- By hebeboots [gb] Date 10.12.07 19:42 UTC
My breed? Absolutely, 100%..... No comment. :rolleyes:

:D :D :D
- By sam Date 10.12.07 19:55 UTC
well all i can say is that the two pups i have at the moment are positivley the worst i have ever ever had for housetraining:mad::mad:
- By ClaireyS Date 10.12.07 20:12 UTC
I had a Bichon as a child, in all his 17 years he was never fully house trained :rolleyes:

My setters on the other hand were relatively easy to house train, but they are serious dirt magnets, even after a good hose down they leave a pile of dried mud behind when they get up :mad:  To be fair though I do walk them in the mudiest of places ;)
- By ShaynLola Date 10.12.07 21:14 UTC
My Chow X Rottie housetrained himself.  He had lived outdoors all his days before he came here and he was clean indoors instantly.  After a couple of weeks, he wouldn't even poo in the garden.  When puppy came along, he was horrified that she pooed in his garden and would stand by any little piles we might have missed and woof until we removed the offending article. He also doesn't smell particulrly 'doggie' but makes up for that with regular and liberal application of 'eau de fox' :rolleyes:
- By JeanSW Date 10.12.07 22:25 UTC
We all seem to have very different experiences.  My last Border Collie boy was the easiest I ever had in my life.  But I've owned several Yorkshire Terriers over the years, and they have been the most difficult breed ever!  Many years ago, a breeder of Yorkies told me that they were impossible to house train!
- By Brainless [gb] Date 11.12.07 01:08 UTC
I fostered 3 of my breed who had lived like a flock of sheep outdoors and not one of them ever peed or dirtied in the house even though they had never been house trained.
- By rachelsetters Date 11.12.07 13:30 UTC
The Gordons and Irish were both very easy to housetrain - the English on the other hand talk about slow and lazy to get the message!

Claire - like you we walk on very muddy terrain and most of the mud then gets transferred onto the floors!  Like you we hose down but seems to no avail ! :rolleyes:
- By yorkies4eva [eu] Date 11.12.07 13:19 UTC
My yorkie... well yorkies,... VERY difficult to housetrain!! :eek:

GSD's and golden retrievers i have found very easy to housetrain compared to our yorkies... :cool:
- By MW184 [gb] Date 11.12.07 14:01 UTC
Puli is very very clean housetraining wise prefers to go out of the garden and out of site but is a bit pongy when his cords are fairly long.  Just had him trimmed though so all nice and fresh...
for now!
- By sandrah Date 11.12.07 14:05 UTC
I am not sure you can answer this by breed.  My current BC comes home in this weather looking like I have taken hold of her and dipped her in the muddiest puddle I could find. :eek:  Where as my last BC always came home so clean you would never have guessed he had been out.  He used to run around puddles where this one goes in head first...........such a feminine pretty little thing she looks too. :rolleyes:
- By Astarte Date 11.12.07 14:10 UTC
bullmastiffs are stubborn and so are a bit troublesome to train initially, but really easy to clean. actually our boy tried to climb in the shower with you lol :rolleyes:
- By nic29 [gb] Date 11.12.07 14:25 UTC
:eek: rather big for a shower!  My Shar Pei have always been very clean and do not even pee in the garden - although this means they have to get lots of walks I guess.  My sister has dauschunds (spelling?) and both (one 18 months the other 5) are not house trained.  They came over at the weekend and messed on the floors - in fact they seem to prefer to do their "business" indoors rather than out.  Not sure if they are known to be harder to train.
- By joby [gb] Date 11.12.07 14:39 UTC
my akitas are really clean and were very easy to house train, my chinese crested is another story.................you let her out in the garden and she comes into the house to wee!!!!!!! Dont think she likes the feel of the grass LOL

the advantage is she has no doggy smell at all!
- By georgepig [gb] Date 11.12.07 15:04 UTC
My boxer is like a self cleaning dog - he gets filthy when out and about on a walk (yes, he's all white!!) but by the time we are back to the car or house almost all of the mud has gone!!!  And that that is left is easily removed with the quickest towel rubdown.  Oh, and he was a star to housetrain.
The collie X and mud drives me insane tho, lol!!!

ETA - the disadvantage of being clean and white (and I'm sure all you dal owners can sympathise) is the piles of snowy hair he leaves all over the house.  All year :eek:
- By Astarte Date 11.12.07 16:04 UTC
lol yup, and he's big for a bully. our mastiff used to do the same thing :confused:
- By georgepig [gb] Date 11.12.07 16:13 UTC
Yep, the boxer often sleeps in the shower.  And if you opened the doors when you were in he'd be straight in there with you!! :eek::eek:
- By LJS Date 11.12.07 16:25 UTC
Not sure if they are known to be harder to train.

If it is anything to go by my mother two mini ones then yes ;)

All my Labs have been very easy to house train especially with a dog flap :D

As for been clean when out on a walk then no as they love to go in any water whether clean or thick mud and rolling in any kind of poo or decaying dead animal is fair game as well :D :D
Any they are both delicate little girls as well, well no they aren't really they are thugs :eek: :D
- By jackson [gb] Date 11.12.07 17:56 UTC
My Golden was very easy to house train, and would never, under any circumstances toilet in the house. But she adores rolling in the mud, and at this time of year, usually comes home the colour of a Flatcoat. :eek: I don't mind really, she loves getting muddy, so who am I to argue?! :-)

She usually lays on her tummy in thick, wet mud and sort of 'shimmies' herself around to get fully coated.
- By AliceC Date 11.12.07 19:36 UTC
My Cavalier is a very clean dog in all aspects apart from the house training! She is housetrained but lazy - if it's raining she prefers to 'pretend' to go outside (ie. hide in the utility room, we keep the door open all the time) and then she comes back in for a wee! :eek: She doesn't like getting her feet wet. I often catch her washing herself like a cat, she's very clean in that aspect and doesn't smell of dog.

My Malamute on the other hand is a dream with housetraining, never had any problems with her. She doesn't even like having a poo in our garden and will save it for when we go for walks - even then she is very fussy and takes about ten minutes to find the right 'spot' away from the path!! Are anyone elses dogs funny like that or is it just mine?!
- By messyhearts Date 11.12.07 19:44 UTC
My Cavalier is nothing like yours. :D

She loves lying in & messing around in dirt & rain. She was never taught to be house trained, however, as I litter trained her but she learnt the house training too (for when we are at someone else's, she holds on until she's outside!). Plus she was very clean on her first season last month - barely any blood left behind.
- By AliceC Date 11.12.07 19:51 UTC
Bless her - would you like to swap?! :-D

My girl is good when we're at other people's houses, it's just at home that she's lazy! I have to watch her like a hawk in the mornings if it's raining to make sure she has had a wee before she comes back in. We have an extension at our house and when it was in the process of being built she would do all her wees and poos in there as the roof was partly fitted and it was sheltered. It didn't matter then as the floor was just concrete, but she still goes in there now as we don't use the room - OH goes mad as he put an oak floor down in there and he's worried about it lifting!!

It is only when it's raining though so I can't complain too much, she's as good as gold the rest of the time. She did bleed a lot on her last season though - I was considering getting her those bitch pants as she sleeps on our bed :rolleyes:
- By messyhearts Date 11.12.07 20:16 UTC
Oh, I can't imagine the mess of sharing a bed with a bitch in season. Even if my bitch was very neat, she still left a mess behind when she woke up. :eek:

To be honest, your girl sounds like my old boy. He hated rain & sneaked pees & poos in corners too. I reckon that is very like the breed & I am sure my girl would too if she wasn't provided with a tray.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 12.12.07 10:32 UTC
My Jozi refuses to Poo at home,a nd it makes me cross as then she is dying for one almost as soon as we are out, but has to find the right spot right in a hedge or halfway up a tree that has suckers growing at the base,makes picking up a chore.

I have taught her to go in the gutter so as soon as she looks like she needs to go I get her out there, and picking up is much better especially when it gets dark.

She wouldn't go for three days when she had her first litter and wasn't going for walks, but eventually had to go in the garden.  Her grandmother was the same.  I would much rather they did it at home, having to carry bags of poo isn't so much fun, but I usually find a bin at some point on our walks.
- By zarah Date 11.12.07 20:38 UTC
Our 3 Dobes have all been very easy to house train. Even when my current dog had gastroenteritis at 5 months and was on a drip for 5 days he somehow managed to hold it in until they took him out to the garden each time where he had almighty explosions :eek: When we went to visit him they'd put a note up on the front of his pen saying "toilet trained" bless him. He sleeps in my bedroom and like alot of dogs has a tendency to bring up bile in the early hours if he doesn't have a snack last thing at night. On the rare occassion that this happens he now knows to do it in the bedroom bin :D

I can also take my male into other peoples houses (with dogs) and he's never attempted to cock his leg up at their furniture (unlike other male dogs that have come to my house!).

In my opinion they're not a smelly breed at all, and they're very easy to keep clean.
- By AliceC Date 11.12.07 20:43 UTC
My friend has two Dobes and they do seem like really clean dogs. He had no problems housetraining either of them, and he wouldn't have any other breed now! That's really clever how he knows how to go to the bin!! We have a cat who is quite similar, he usually goes out at night but on the rare occasion that he stays in and we don't hear him asking to go out, he will go into the shower cubicle in the bathroom and have a wee there! :-D

Messyhearts, does your Cavalier use a litter tray like a cat's tray then? That sounds really clever!
- By messyhearts Date 11.12.07 21:01 UTC
Yes, she does. We use wood pellets litter as it is the best should she have ever chosen to eat the stuff. She is a very clever madam at times, she was fully litter trained AND house trained at six months. I have to warn people not to leave their Sunday papers on the floor when she's about as she does revert back to that phase. :eek:
- By Ory [gb] Date 11.12.07 21:05 UTC
The first thing I read about Chihuahuas when I decided to buy one was how difficult it is to house train one..... funny enough, my Chi boy was the easiest of all!!! I've never had such a clean dog in my life. My previous female ( a Staffy mix) was a complete nightmare and wasn't properly house trained till she was about 15 months old. My Chi boy was 100% clean the day I got him (14 weeks). Could have been the breeder who taught all the pups how to only do it outside in the grass, or perhaps it was just him, but I was really impressed. I will never ever believe what a book says about the breed :(. They were SO wrong!
- By helenmd [gb] Date 11.12.07 21:30 UTC
It seems reading these posts that the toy breeds are hardest to house train,this does seem to be the case at my grooming salon,the larger breeds very rarely toilet in their cages,the worst culprits are yorkies and entire male westies who cock their legs,but I suppose thats something completely different.Out of my 3 dogs,a BSD,a sheltie and a papillon,housetraining difficulties are definitely a size thing!
- By messyhearts Date 11.12.07 21:37 UTC
I would agree about size!

I would largely put it down to smaller dogs needing to go more often & being a tad more impatient as the urge is a bit more sudden but that's just my guess.
- By nic29 [gb] Date 12.12.07 09:34 UTC
I am not sure whether its the size as I know my sister and her husband have been very lazy with their mini sausages. I am sure if they had two big dogs they would get up in the mornings rather than let the dogs toilet on the floor.

My Shar pei is the same as the Malumute in that he won't go for a poop anywhere near paths or down his own street.  He prefers to find a hedge and try and squash his bum into it.  Very strange to watch but it's fantastic having children as I know there will be nothing in the garden except if my sisters dog have come over! 
- By Ory [gb] Date 12.12.07 10:31 UTC
I'm not entirely convinced about the size thing. When I think back when we had our Lab and the Staffy mix, both bitches needed to go more often and had far more accidents than my Chihuahua male. And he is so funny, not everywhere is good enough for him. :) It HAS to be grass for him to poop and it has to be hidden lol.

The one breed that needs long time to housetrain in my opinion is a Mastino Napoletano. My friend is a breeder and I remember every time she had pups or a new pup that she bought for herself (oh yeah, her house is a bit of a mess ;)) it took them forever to housetrain. There was no warning, all of a sudden you saw a massive puddle on the floor. And she is at home 24/7, letting them out in the garden all the time. She said it's a breed thing...... She also had a few Tibetan Terriers and they never had any problems at all.
- By ceejay Date 12.12.07 19:36 UTC
I have a medium coated border collie and her coat stays in immaculate condition with minimum maintenance.  However no-one can avoid the mud!  She does not have a strong smell and cleans herself - but she is a roller so it is not all a bed of roses.
- By Harley Date 12.12.07 22:32 UTC
We have a Golden Retriever and a smallish terrier cross so one big dog and one small.

The GR comes home from every walk - even in the height of summer- plastered in mud. He takes a fair while to dry out but the mud seems to just drop off him as it dries. You can always tell where he has been lying down by the dog shaped pile of dried mud that is left behind :D He gets a quick brush once he is dry and a thorough brush twice a week.He was extremely easy to housetrain and always asks to go out if he needs to by giving one bark at the back door. The only time he smells is if he is wet which can be said for nearly all dogs.

Our terrier is not so keen on getting wet and muddy but any mud he does collect has usually dried and fallen off him before we get back to the car. He is short coated but can smell a bit doggy at times and he absolutely stinks when he has rolled in fox poo :eek:. He took longer to be reliably housetrained and the only indication he gives that he needs to go out is that he will sniff at the back door. We have to make sure he is given the opportunity to go out on a regular basis as his silent requests don't work if you are not in the same room as him :) He took a couple of months to housetrain but he was in a rescue kennel for a number of weeks so that obviously made a difference. He was about 4-5 months old when we got him and have no idea if he was housetrained before he went into rescue.

Both dogs will go out to relieve themselves on command now which is very useful.
- By Blossom [gb] Date 14.12.07 13:48 UTC
I have 2 HL Chinese Crested and they were both really easy to housetrain.  They HATE going out in the rain though (so would I if I had to go out naked)! but still go out and do their business, they just do it quick smart, rather than investigate everything!
- By Beardy [gb] Date 14.12.07 20:16 UTC
My long haired GSD was very easy to house-train, however he is very active & he gets absolutely filthy on his walks. It's all down to whether or not they run about, I have decided. The faster they go, the more dirty water, mud etc flies everywhere. I actually trimmed him a bit last week, under his belly, tail & up his back legs. He looks a bit odd, but it will soon grow again. It makes my job slightly easier, especially this weather. Roll on summer.
- By AliceC Date 15.12.07 16:55 UTC
Although my Cavalier hates the rain, she does love running about on walks and does get very dirty - we have been out this afternoon and she has had a wonderful time running through the fields and woods. I agree with you Beardy that it's down to how much the run about as our Malamute stays on-lead on walks and she doesn't get dirty unless she goes for a swim :rolleyes:
- By Polo Date 15.12.07 18:40 UTC
My standard poodle was very quick to housetrain, and he's fussy about where he 'goes'. He gives good signals of when to let him out, but he's a very patient dog.  The mud drops off him but having a show coat the water soaks and tangles his coat( but he always gets at least an hour's walk and run even when muddy + wet and he likes the mud)
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