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Topic Dog Boards / Breeding / Royal Canin 1st Milk
- By Lilyella [gb] Date 24.11.07 13:31 UTC
Hi,

If anyone has any or just happens to know, I would really appreciate it if they could tell me the ratios for making it up. I have lost the instructions and I have two puppies two day old puppies that are really struggling.

Thanks in advance,
Yvonne
- By sam Date 24.11.07 19:44 UTC
1 volume of powdered milk to 2 volumes of warm water:cool:
- By pja [gb] Date 25.11.07 21:25 UTC
My puppies didn't like it at all.  I tried to top up a small puppy and he wouldn't drink it.  A friend told me that her pups didn't like it, but I had already bought a very big tub at a show.  I then tried the pup on Welpi and he sucked for England. When I started weaning them, I put a dish down so they could have a little drink and they gave one lick and walked away. I gave the tub to a friend whose bitch didn't have enough milk, and her pups wouldn't take it either.  Weird - some pups must like it or they would change the taste I suppose.
- By JeanSW Date 25.11.07 22:09 UTC
Same experience as pja I'm afraid.  Bought the largest tub I could get, and they just wouldn't drink.  Whelpi went down like nectar.  I also found it easier to get a smooth mix, the RC always seemed lumpy.  Not knocking RC, I use their dry food, just wouldn't waste my money on the milk again.
- By sam Date 26.11.07 18:47 UTC
well i have reared 2 litters on it and they loved it!
- By Brainless [gb] Date 27.11.07 11:41 UTC
I have used skinners puppy milk in the past as my breeder did, and it was palatable, but I did find by 6 weeks they were not digesting it well (at the time bitch fully weaned them).

I then used litterlac which smells lovely, and they were very good on that with no looseness.  Most recently I have been using Nutrolac which is made from Goats Milk and this has been best of all, for the Mums too.
- By mattie [gb] Date 27.11.07 12:04 UTC Edited 27.11.07 12:08 UTC
An Old fashioned way was to use  tinned carnation one part  and part water  I know people who have reared  orphan litters on this method and  very succesful and pups like the taste
Also had good  results with litterlac and goats milk is excellent
- By jackson [gb] Date 27.11.07 12:13 UTC
I am using lactol as reccomended by my breeder. They are 6 week sold today though, so once I use up this tin they won't have any more.

I haven't tried anything else, but the pups absolutely love it and no upset tummies at all.
- By gwen [gb] Date 27.11.07 19:27 UTC
I use a carnation mix, which consists of 1 small tin of carnation mixed with equal quantity of cooled, per-boiled water, 1 egg yolk, and few drops of Abidec infant vitamin drops. Glucose can be added too.   I have reared lots of pups on this, either as a supplement for Mum with little milk, or as the only source of food (as in my current litter who are 6 weeks today).  Pups love it - the current litter love it so much they are refusing to go onto solids!  I started using this a few years back, after a conversation with a friend, whose Vet had been doing research in neo-nates death, and found that almost all of the bottle fed pups he did a PM on had a colleciton of milk powder in the lungs.

Of course, this was not necessarily the cause of death, but was probably a contributing factor in lots of them.  So after hearing this I stopped using puppy milk formula and used the carnation one.  It has the added advantage of being readily available - you can just buy one can to have in, just in case, and then if it is needed buy lots more!  As the pups get older, if they are still on bottle feeds, I add an extra egg yolk to enrich the mix.

bye
Gwen
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