Im just asking because I have seen many many adverts for my breed at unbelievable prices!!
I know this will continue as long as people are silly enough to pay unresonable prices.
For a well bred Siberian husky with good blood lines etc is around the £650 maybe £750 mark, yet ive seen people charge this amount for unregistered dogs with no pedigree!!
Ive also seen adverts for crosses with fancy names such as  Huskymute:rolleyes: and 'registered' British Inuit pups :rolleyes: which are again, hugely over priced!!!
Does it annoy you at all that these so called breeders get away with this???!!!

Part of the problem is that people don't know the difference between a backyard breeder and one who is breeding dogs with a good pedigree.  As far as the buyer is concerned the price for a particular breed is x so that's what you should expect to pay, most pet buyers don't know or care what they are buying after all, all dogs of a particular breed are the same aren't they?

I suspect this is much more of a problem with the popular breeds like labs or staffs.

Labs all colours from £400 to £500 each. Alot of people think Chocolates are more expensive but it is not the case. If they are then it is purely a money making litter IMHO.

I would pay up to £650 for a Golden from a reputable breeder, would check out pedigree 1st, health checks done on parents.

Wouldn't buy otherwise.

My breed the Bearded Collie range from £650- £700

GSD about £500 -£550 from good quality lines and I think that's steep. 

£550 - £650 depending on the establishment of the breeder, where in the UK they are and how much the bitch has won.

Some breeders are asking £900 for a chocolate puppy!!!

Well bred labs range from £500 - £650 I think now. It depends where you are in the country.

The average stud fee is about £300 but again some are charging more for chocolate studs like £500.

Ok I am 5 years out of date ( Last pup I bought ) is this to soften the blow when we actually talk about money :p

Seriously I hope that because I haven't asked and you haven't said how much we can see we are both serious about the whole thing :)

I think a GOOD breeder is somebody where you can talk over many weeks/months about what they are doing and get an undertstanding of what they are trying to achieve in their vision and be there and support the breeder as I think it is very important to have an input on your future offspring :D

Hopefully you agree we have been doing that and that is whatt a good breeder would want from a new owner;)
So there is a thread :)

OK lets see what you 'reputable breeders' will ask :)

Lets see your interview questions :)

Lucy
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OK lets see what you 'reputable breeders' will ask

Lets see your interview questions

from Lucy's post, I would love, out of interest, to see what questions are asked too? :)

Maybe that could be a new thread.................What questions do reputable breeders ask a potential puppy buyer.

I will post one :)

Well done :)

Beat you to it..................

I'd say the 'average' price for a Rough Collie is around £550-£650, although you do occasionally see them cheaper (usually pet breeders) or dearer ... sometimes MUCH dearer.

Until fairly recently, we were quite a cheap breed. My litter who will be 6 in January were sold for £350 I think, which would have been the average price then. Prices seem to have climbed steadily in the last couple of years. Stud fees still relatively cheap at around £200-£250.

M.

In my breed, Giant Schnauzers, it is £800. This seems to be the average.
Stud fees can be as high as £900!

my pup, Bearded Collie was £600 although the prices of dogs has zoomed in recent years I am suprised so many people say they wouldnt pay that much for a new best mate that will last you between 10-15 years! people pay huge amounts for mobile phones, games consoles etc and they are outdated in a year!! it always amazes me the amount people think a life is worth. going off topic a bit I saw whole rabbits in the butchers the other day for £1.99 and I felt really sad that that little life was worth so little.

Newfoundlands, £1000 - £1200 or thereabouts

>I saw whole rabbits in the butchers the other day for £1.99 and I felt really sad that that little life was worth so little.

£1.99! Blimey, what a mark-up! You can get them for 50p each from the farmers here.

50p!!!! that is too sad poor little bunnies.

If they were wild they didn't cost anything to rear, just the bullet and the time to hunt and skin them.  wish I knew someone that went rabbiting, I would take the hind end (loin and legs) for us and give the front end and offal to the dogs.

Having read this thread, I checked the price of 'wild rabbit' in a local Nisa superstore and found they are £3.99P

I saw some frozen leg portions in Lidl at a ridiculous price, though they came all the way from south America.

GBGV - £800.  Pharaohs - £500 - £600.  I have heard rumours of people in Pharaohs wanting to charge £1000 because the pups will be by or out of an import :rolleyes: and they're people who've only been in the breed a maximum of 5 years and won next to nothing!

Debs

Oh Soli boy are you touching a nerve there.  Same is happening here with my breed but on stud fees, with dogs that have never even been used yet.  £1,000.00 for an unused dog I think is a cheek! 

For my breed 90% of us sell them for £800 and they are from fully health tested parents including the gonioscopy which unfortunately not everyone is doing, even though dogs with no similar lines to ours have ended up with scores!

I think the truth is not to look at the price, always look for a good breeder first, then for certain lines that are for your own purposes, or if just as a pet a recommended breeder, never look at the price, then when you have found the pup for you, pay whatever that price is.

I agree that many times BYB's will even charge more than a breeder of good standing, just because they can, and at the other end of the scale even very cheap.

Just don't look at the price, if you want a specific breed of good health and temperament the price should not even come into it.

Excellent post, Carrington!

M.

I agree Carrington
With my first girl I was naive enough to think price meant quality :rolleyes:

whereas with my second I did contact breeders then went from there

Border terriers between £450-£600.I have noticed that with alot of breeds females are charged around £50 more One day i'm going to ring up one of these adds and ask why!

>I saw whole rabbits in the butchers the other day for £1.99

Jeez that is cheap

I think the price difference may be that often more people want bitches as they are perceived as being easier in many breeds, so the £50 reduction in the male price is to encourage the waverers (who aren't bothered about the sex) to plump for a male.

bitches are generally priced higher than dogs as people can breed their bitches and make loads of money sad i know but true

Don't see that as being relevant, unless it is to put off people with such ideas, as most good breeders endorse their pups registrations dog or bitch, though in some breeds unregistered pups still fetch enough to make someone not care.

this may sound stupid but can i ask what endorse means?

From the KC site..

http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/365

Responsible, good breeders endorse their puppies, the option is there when you register the puppies, on the registration form. It helps to save them being used as puppy machines later on in life by the BYB or producers.

Sadly, I think Hayley is right.  Certainly in my breed, a good breeder will not only endorse their pups, but they will generally charge the same for bitches and dogs.  In a popular breed, sadly there are far fewer good breeders than those breeding for a variety of reasons, including making money and wanting another just like the one they have.  Those people are the ones that tend to charge more for bitches.

> females are charged around £50 more

I've noticed that too - and I imagine they do it because the bitches are supposed to be easier to sell (but then that's just money making IMO, as they cost the same to produce!).

Exactly what I did :). Well, looked for lines I like and then breeders using these lines...
Found something I like, took 9 months before the puppies were even born and were in weekly contact via e-mail through the wait(breeder abroad)...
So we got to know the breeder reasonably well and trust was formed.
a week before we were picking up the pup we finally remembered to ask what the price is!

Ktee Ive noticed this as well!!
I have actually rung someone to ask why and was told females were more desirable as you can make more money out of them

When I was looking at the possibility of a Labradoodle I was being asked £1000 from a reputable breeder! I actually decided to get a pure bred, Standard Poodle, (£650) so glad I did, but it's interesting that people can get around £800 - £1000 for a non pedigree which has no hope of ever breeding true.

Is there such a thing as a reputable breeder who is making lots of money in breeding cross-breds?  Because at the end of the day, that is exactly what they are doing?  I cannot understand why people are prepared to pay far more for a cross-bred than they are for a pure bred quality puppy.  I personally think these dogs are purely owned as a 'designer dog'.  We actually have a Labradoodle at our local dog club - and what a mess he looks - very long coat which isn't trimmed at all - quite probably because his owners didn't know what to expect when owning a Labradoodle.

I paid £400 for my boy £350 for my girl and £550 for my other girl, im now on the waiting list for a pup that i got my first girl from, the breeders are excellent,  the dogs are doing very well in the show ring, produce excellent stock and dont ask stupid prices, i would rather wait 8 months for one that i trust.

Sadly this week at training class we have had to Cavalier x Poodle pups from a litter bred deliberately for a silly sum more than both parent breeds.

In Waterstones yesterday I found on the animal shelves a book of 'Designer Dogs' with pictures and information about all these various crosses. :rolleyes:

That's terrible

I can't see how they possibly can do that and be within  trades description act, as not two crossbred pups will look alike.

Well exactly - there isn't uniformity within a "breed". Tbh they all do look like mixes not pedigrees anyway (and of course they are crosses).  I say all - only flicked through the book, and can't remember its name. :rolleyes: But they had pages about each type (for want of a better word) with pictures and I think some sort of description of what they were supposed to be like if I remember correctly (though I don't see how you'd predict which of the parent breeds they would be more like if either). I wasn't impressed.

I think you meant to say there is uniformity in a "breed"

I didn't - I was using "breed" to refer to the crossbreeds till I decided type covered it better. Sorry, rather confusing though.

Actually, I would disagree that you can "make" more money from a bitch than a dog I have a neighbour who owns the same breed and colour as me, the dog is not what I would say an excellent example of his breed, is not shown, nor worked, but when I was looking to mate my bitch 2 years ago, they kept offering their boy to me for £650 stud fee :rolleyes:  ............I turned round and declined them on the basis that I could use a top ShCh in the breed for half that price..................this neighbour has made more money from the poor quality dog than I'd ever make from my OK bitch ( who, incidently has produced a fab little bitch for me ) because our colour and breed are fashionable ATM :(