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Topic Other Boards / Foo / Peter Tobin
- By LJS Date 16.11.07 22:06 UTC
I wonder how many more they will find :mad:
- By lumphy [gb] Date 16.11.07 22:19 UTC
and why has it taken so long.?

At least these poor girls families can now bury them properly and have a end to this awfull situation. Cant imagine what they are going through, relief they have been found but grieving as it wasnt a happy ending and it has now all been brought back up again.

Wendy
- By ChristineW Date 16.11.07 22:19 UTC
Ok, what have I missed, I haven't watched a news report in days!
- By LJS Date 16.11.07 22:21 UTC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7099290.stm

:mad:
- By perrodeagua [gb] Date 16.11.07 22:42 UTC
Terrible isn't it.  Can you imagine how the poor family who actually live inthat house feel?  I don't think that I'd want to go back there if it was my house.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 16.11.07 22:57 UTC
I could never go back to that house if it were mine. Not ever. And if I lived next door I'd want to leave too. Just horrible.
- By Harley Date 16.11.07 23:14 UTC
This is all happening about 30 miles away from us. The local  news said that the house is now lived in by a mum and her two children and she has said that she is not going back to the house ever again. It also said that the police are having another look at two cases of missing girls from the Eastbourne area who went missing in the late eighties/early nineties when Peter Tobin was living in Brighton which is just along the coast from Eastbourne.

Does anyone know how they came to start looking at the Margate house? Peter Tobin lives in Scotland now and the two missing people were not from this area so was wondering what led the police to look there.
- By Teri Date 16.11.07 23:45 UTC
Vile - too awful to think about the families of the missing and found girls must feel and how those involved with the investigation in any form cope :( :( :(

I'm with you JG, I would not want to be near that house never mind live in it.  I hope it is demolished when final investigations and excavations have been carried out :(
- By Brainless [gb] Date 17.11.07 00:28 UTC
I hope though the current owners or occupants are compensated and do not loose out because of it.
- By Teri Date 17.11.07 00:32 UTC
Absolutely Barbera - they must feel terrible as it is and I'm sure nobody would want them further traumatised only were it me or mine I'd never feel able to go near the house again never mind live in it as a family home :(
- By Brainless [gb] Date 17.11.07 00:35 UTC
I hope they aren't forced to do so. 
- By sam Date 17.11.07 09:07 UTC
what i havent been able to work out is why a house in london is being dug up when the chap appears to be in scotland, and why did they even arrest him in the 1st place? very confused whats the connection:confused::confused:
- By lumphy [gb] Date 17.11.07 09:16 UTC
This is the second house they have searched like this. I think the first one they found evidence to charge him with Vicki's disapearance. I was amazed by the fact they totally gutted house, lifting floorboards and taking paper and paint of the walls incase it was hiding anything. Dug up all the garden. The family had to move out for weeks. I wondered at the time what condition it was in when they moved back and how much they were compensated if at all.

I wonder if they are doing this to all his known addresses. Sends shudders down your spine to think he may of lived in the house you are living in now and you would never know.

Wendy
- By lumphy [gb] Date 17.11.07 09:23 UTC
Hi

He was in the area when Vicki Hamilton went missing.

He was arrested because he murdered/raped a young polish girl in a church he was working as a caretaker. It turned out he was using a different name, and had served time for sexual offences.

Wendy
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 17.11.07 09:51 UTC

>why a house in london is being dug up when the chap appears to be in scotland


Because he used to live there when these girls went missing.
- By Lea Date 17.11.07 11:31 UTC
Is that the one where he hid her body in the crypt???
This is awful. How many more will there be???
I wouldnt have thought he would kill 2 so close together in 91 and then leave it for 15 years to kill again :( :(
It makes me think of the Wests again :(:(
And I agree, if anything like that was founf at a house I lived in I would never ever go back :( :(
What I cant work out is how someone can dig a 6' deep hole in the back of thier garden without the neighbours noticing something. Especially as the houses are so close together :(
Lea.
- By lumphy [gb] Date 17.11.07 11:41 UTC
This explains quite a bit. He was in Jail  between 94 and 2004. Reofended and the police lost track of him, Really makes you wonder doesnt it that they can find evidence of a murder in a house 15 years after the event but they cant keep track of a rapist.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6611765.stm

Wendy
- By Sullysmum Date 17.11.07 14:02 UTC
It said this morning that the woman and kids that live there now are being rehomed.
- By Rupertbear [gb] Date 17.11.07 15:41 UTC
Good job the owners of the house dont have dogs! Mine would have dug them up before now:eek:
- By jeanb [gb] Date 17.11.07 23:08 UTC
He was living in Livingstone when Vicky Hamilton disappeared 16 years ago,and they searched the house he had occupied and found enough DNA evidence of Vicky having been there to charge him with her murder.He did a council house exchange from Livingstone to Margate and must obviously have transported Vicky's body down there. He apparantly dug a 6ft deep"sandpit" for his 2 year old son to play in,and a social worker apparantly told him to fill it in as it was considered dangerous for the toddler,so I guess he was under some kind of supervision order.He was jailed for raping and seriously assaulting 2  young girls when he lived somewhere in England Think it may have been brighton or eastbourne and they only escaped when his then 4 year old son came in to the room where he was holding them. I think thats when he got the 10 year stretch.He moved back to Scotland and had a flat in Paisley and got friendly with a young woman who lived in the same building.He bought her cigarettes and gave her money,and she thought he was kind until he dragged her in and tried to rape her one day. She escaped ,but she kicked up such a fuss,and a few of the neighbours took exception and were threatening to beat him up,so he fled and turned up at the Chapel as a handyman using a false name.The girl who was assaulted reported it to the police,but apparantly they got no answer at his door and left a note telling him to contact them,as he was obviously on probation.He killed a polish girl.Angelika Kluk,who was spending her summer holidays from University in Poland,by working over here at the church, and buried her under the floorboards in the church ,and was interviewed by the police when she was reported missing.They didnt check that he was using a false name and by the time they did ,he had fled back down to London,where he faked a heart attack and was admitted to hospital. They quickly realised he was faking and must have been alerted by the police as he was arrested and brought back to stand trial.He is just a monster,and I just wish the other prisoners could be let loose on him,but he will be isolated from them.He viciously kicked an elderly news photographer when he was being put in the prison van after being found guilty of Angelika's murder,and has faked another heart attack since then . Heres hoping its 3rd time lucky and its real the next time.
- By Lea Date 18.11.07 15:14 UTC
Thanks Jean.
That was a very comprhensive report explains it all clearly :) :)
Lea :)
- By munrogirl76 Date 18.11.07 16:49 UTC

> Good job the owners of the house dont have dogs! Mine would have dug them up before now


Don't. :eek: It reminds me of a serial killer I read about once where his kids found a woman's skeleton in the garden. :eek: (and somehow he made a plausible explanantion that his wife believed :rolleyes: ).

When we moved into my mother's house (I was 17 at the time :D ) years ago, I remember digging the garden and finding loads of clothing and stuff - but there were also bits of kitchen rubbish & it looked like the last owner had just been using the area as a rubbish dump. But then this sort of thing makes you think....:eek:
- By Lea Date 18.11.07 17:06 UTC
Thats one of my dreads in my job.
Finding something like that when planting trees etc :eek::eek:
We have done a job where the police know its the last place a guy was. They know he is dead, they just dont know where they have hidden his body. The police were digging various places in the garden up when we were there one day looking for his remains. They only thing they did find was the remains of a dog!!
But they wouldnt empty the well as it was too costly to do :eek::eek:
I never did like going there after that!!
But does make you think how many bodys there are hidden in places.
Me and my boss joke about it when we find things. Just hope the joke never backfires!!!
Lea :)
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