Hello

Not sure where to place this post.

I have just joined the forum and dont think many will be on ths late but I work nights.

Anyway as a family we have been discussing for quite sometime about getting a new arrival. 

We are looking at ETT and want a sister and brother.  I have read that some advise againt males but we have decided on male and female.

Hope to hear from you and thak you for reading.

The general advice is not to have two puppies together.

If you put two pups in the search facility you will get lots of posts and reasons.

This is a current thread on the subject http://www.champdogsforum.co.uk/board/topic/100332.html

Generally with opposite sexes you won't get the hierarchy issues, but you will have the problem of splitting them up when the bitch comes in season, and if they are very attached that can be difficult, as well as potential risk of unplanned pregnancy.

A puppy deserves undivided atention while it grows up, just like human children.  Peopel do cope with twins etc, but life is a lot harder.

Hello there

Why do you want two puppies together?

You will find responsible breeders wouldnt sell two pups together for several reasons, they are much harder to train if you have two together and will bond with each other and not yourself.
Some breeders will assume you are planning to breed from the puppies so again wont be happy to sell you two together .

I wouldnt worry about a single pup being lonely etc... if you are there for him, that will be adequate, it is much better to have one puppy to give all your attention to and end up with a well rounded dog then possibly acquire another in two or three years time when there will be a good age gap to cut down the chances of squabbling in the pack.

If you have already spoken to a breeder who is happy to sell you two pups at once, I would stay well clear, as no responsible breeder would do this.

Would agree with what's already been said. I wouldn't dream of having 2 puppies. There's a couple who walk where I do who have 2 litter sisters that are now over a year old (different breed to what you are thinking about getting), and they are a complete nightmare! Not aggressive in anyway, but they have completely run riot from day 1 and have absolutely no recall at all. Unfortunately the majority of other dogs there (mine included) are too nice for their own good, and the puppies don't ever seem to have got a really good telling off and as such they jump all over the other dogs, pull on their ears, mouth at them, etc, resulting in the more nervous or timid ones standing there looking terrified. The owners stand there hollering the dogs' names with no response at all. Sometimes they look very embarrassed and apologetic, other times they seem to just give up and continue walking leaving their hooligans to it! They have now got themselves quite a bad name and other dog walkers tend to avoid them, which I'm sure just confounds the situation as it means the puppies are having even less socialisation with dogs other than each other.

Welcome Tutu, :-)

There is a breeder:rolleyes: around here somewhere selling their pups in two's saw two litter sister's out walking a couple of weeks ago and then 2 litter brothers at the vets in both instances the same breed, I guess the same breeder myself and the vet both did a :rolleyes: Too late for those people but..........

You may be a very loving person Tutu with a family who are eager for the introduction of a pup, but unless you are very experiened and have all that spare time and energy to give to all the seperate training etc, don't even contemplate it, it is very hard work, you'll end up with two very naughty puppies and teenagers if not really experienced.

How you train a puppy moulds it for the rest of it's life, it truely does ;-) you must have the time to socialise and train and bond with a pup, every pup deserves that best start.

Get one, give it everything it needs, then when mature get another :-) then you will have two very well balanced dogs for the next 10+ years of being together for company and play and growing old together. If you do it all the right way you will always have a smile on your face as opposed to a ............. I can't cope with this! :-D

Hi Tutu,

I wouldn't advise getting two pups together either.  It's extremely hard work, and can end up being a complete nightmare, they will tend to bond with each other rather than with you, which will make training all the more difficult.  Training would have to be done separately of course, otherwise they'll be concentrating on each other and not on you.  It's difficult enough training one pup :-D
I did it with two females I kept from my last litter and it's not something I'd do again in a hurry!

If I were you, I'd get one pup, spend loads of time enjoying and training your little one and when he or she is about 2, then think about adding another pup to your family.

Good luck.

"How you train a puppy moulds it for the rest of it's life, it truely does  you must have the time to socialise and train and bond with a pup, every pup deserves that best start. "

I woudl agree, some bad habits or attitudes once established are almost impossible to change.  My Jozi is now 8 years old and I ahd her back at 8 1/2 months old.  She is not reliable off lead to the extent that ehr ancestors adn daughter are, as she had already established a pattern of doign her own thing when on walks and goign self employed.

I wonder if it is more common for breeders of toy breeds to sell two puppies together? Clearly this is not going to be such a huge issue as the post on two male Rottweiler pups, which is a disaster waiting to happen for so many reasons. I don't know the answer to this, by the way, I just wonder if there might be responsible breeders of toy breeds who are happy to sell two together. Perhaps anyone in these breeds could provide some info on this?

My main concern with two ETTs would be that I understand they are a nightmare to toilet train at the best of times, and two puppies would make this even harder. This may be a misconception though, although it is from a breeder I knew years ago.

M.

Or maybe out of control and naughty toy breed pups are not so unacceptable or cause such problems as larger breeds.  I see atrocious behaviour by a lot of toy breed individuals forgiven or accepted whereas even a puppy of a medium to large breed would be a social pariah behaving the same way.

Very good point Brainless, just because they are small does not make the behaviour any different, I've often seen toys behave in a way that an owner of a medium to large dog would probably have the dog warden knocking on their door. :-(  All dogs behaviours are down to training or........... lack of. All puppies need that special training time.