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Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / PUPPY CRYING AT NITE
- By kelandroxy [gb] Date 22.10.07 12:52 UTC
Hi its me again,
after posting the 'puppy biting topic' and all the good replies, i thought you could help with another problem...or not.  i think i am fretting, i so want my puppy to be a happy puppy and to grow up to be a happy dog and dont know if i am trying to hard.

We have had our puppy only two weeks and was finally getting into a night time routine/day time leave alone routine.  We were doing this by allowing the puppy to spend the majority of her time in the kitchen which is were she will sleep.  she came to play in the front room after lunch and of an evening shortly before bed time.  However my friends and family suggested that i was cruel to leave her in the kitchen for so long.  May i point out that she was not often left on her own in the kitchen we were going in telling her when she was a good girl not crying/sleeping and then when she woke we would sit and play and give her loving in the kitchen.  I just wanted her to know that the kitchen could be a fun place as well as a sleep place.  The sleeping of a night was getting better and she even went 4 hours with no crying. 
BUT after being told i was cruel i then changed the routine so for most of thursday, friday, saturday and sunday she has the run of the house but mainly the front room which is like 'FUN TIME' room for her.  Now she has gone back to crying as soon as we leave her in the kitchen and has got bad of a night time again.  The crys are different from when we first got her, not so much of a cry but of a bad tempered scream, i can hear her throwing herself about like having a tantrum because she is not in the frontroom. 
Is it wrong for her to spend so much time in one room?  should i go back to the old way with her in the kitchen most of the time or should she have the freedom of the house like she will when she is a grown up dog??  she is a very defiant and very intelligent puppy, and i just dont know what to do for the best. 

After reading a few posts on here, i have order the 'The Perfect Puppy' book for some help but any comments would be appreciated. 

Thanks
- By Gemini05 Date 22.10.07 13:15 UTC
I would get her into a good rountine so that she feels settled.
maybe try a warm hot water bottle wrapped in a pillow blanket in her bed to make her feel cosy, and maybe make sure you feed her in the kitchen so that she learns the kitchen is her den.

My pup has the run of the house during the day while I am here, and and night time goes in the back porch to sleep, l ive the back porch door open during the day so that he can get to his bed when he wants to, its his little den, confort zone.

I am sure there will be someone on here with a bit better advice!
- By kelandroxy [gb] Date 22.10.07 13:25 UTC
thanks for the reply.

her bed which includes a little hot water bottle at nite is in the kitchen as is her feeding time.  i think i would prefer for her to have the run of the house during the day, but I am worried that she would then not sleep of a nite being locked in the kitchen when she is used to the run of the house during the day.  ????  she seems to be barking for attention now and it is so difficult to leave her crying of a night. 
kerry
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 22.10.07 13:17 UTC
It doesn't matter where your pup is during the day - what matters is that she has company most of the time. If you want to keep her in the kitchen, do so - but it means you have to be out there too. If you want to be in the living-room, then have her in there too. Dogs are social creatures and keeping them in solitary confinement most of the day as well as the night is unkind.
- By kelandroxy [gb] Date 22.10.07 13:43 UTC
thanks for your reply
may i just stress that she isnt in solitary confinement most of the day, but I appreciate there have been few times when we are in the front room and she is in the kitchen but only for a few minutes.  i thought i was doing the right thing for her getting used to one room, i thought it would be easier for her of a night time, making sure she was settled.  i suppose by seeing and hearing her actions now, the run of the house is much more fun than one room.
- By jackson [gb] Date 22.10.07 14:26 UTC
It's hard for me to reply to tthis one, as I have personally never had a puppy cry at night.

You can't 'spoil' a puppy by spending too much time with it, spending time with it will make it feel secure, so that it is happy when you do leave it, providing you start by leaving it in another room for 5 minutes, then build up to an hour in another room to you before even thinking about leaving the house.

What sort of bed has she got? You could try a crate, left open, and with a towel or blanket draped over the top to make it dark and cosy inside. This will help her feel secure. Also, maybe leave the radio on at night, so there is some quiet background noise.

We took blankets, toys and a hot water bottle cover to our breeders so we had something that smelled of the litter to bring home with us. Have you been able to do this? How about leaving an item of your worn clothing in your pup's bed at night instead? That may help.

Good luck!
- By kelandroxy [gb] Date 25.10.07 10:29 UTC
Yessssss

we are all getting lots of sleep.  having the run of the house during the day seems to have increased her security and for the last three nites we have not heard a peep out of her.  I put a piece of my worn clothing in her bed and this with the radio and hot water bottle which we had always used must also have been a help. 

:cool:

thanks for your replies
- By wells [us] Date 25.10.07 10:58 UTC
When we first got our pup we left her blocked into  the kitchen of a night time ( as we have open plan kitchen and lounge ) and have done so ever since , now whenever we are watching tv in bed upstairs she wont even sleep in our room she will always go downstairs to sleep in the kitchen , ...on the sofa now though rather then her bed!
I think you just have to be persistant , we have a townhouse and are on the 3rd floor and the kitchen is on the first floor so if she did cry of a night time when we first got her,  we couldnt hear her anyway!!! Horrid as it sounds!!
I think routine is important definatly but i know most people work and cant help but leave the pup at some time during the day , me and my OH both work full time but he always goes back for over an hour at lunchtime to spend with her and she is fine , she plays in the garden in the daytime , or if she is inside she just sleeps!
Sometimes she has the occasional wee or poop if she is left in the house for too long but that will come in time im sure!
- By Hodgey [gb] Date 03.11.07 15:26 UTC
can you tell me how on earth you stop the pup from chewing up the water bottle, i would like to try this with my german shorthaired pointer pup but she chews everything and anything, can destroy a tennis ball in 2 minutes flat !
the draping a blanket or sheet over the bed is a good idea, may try that !

we got the puppy on wed this week and have had the crate in our room for first 3 nights and not had a problem whatsoever with crying or accidents, however if she is left in the crate in the day time even for 1/2 and hour she crys and barks like mad and wee's in the crate, have we done the wrong thing letting her sleep in the crate in our room for first few nights ?
- By Rach85 [gb] Date 03.11.07 17:10 UTC
The reason shes whining is for you Hodgey! :)
Of course she wouldnt have whined if she was in the room with you, as she could see you.

You should have had her crate downstairs on the first night you brought her home, away from you, and ignored any whining that may have happened, we did this with our girl and she has no SA what so ever and we can leave her alobe for a whole night if needed (Not that we would!!)

I think if you carry on she may end up with Seperation Anxiety if you dont work on it, try leaving the crate downstairs when you go to bed and when you go to bed make sure you DO NOT come back down no matter how hard she whines, or else she will see this as whining brings you running and she will never stop trying to call you during the night.

It seems cruel when shes whining not too come down, but it does her better for becoming a independant adult!
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