have you seen the prices of the frenchbull dogs it is mad. how can anybody pay £2500 plus for a dog. have to say a bitch. it can only be to make loads of money. but i worry it is at the detrament of the breed. i think you are only going to end up with very poor dogs as control has been lost big time. shame as the books say that this breed make a lovely family dog but who in a family can afford that price. people jump on the band wagan and give us all a bad name. what can be done

i dont know but what about the price of chihuahuas? some are 2k and not even kc reg! if you look on epupz nearly all the  chihuahuas are not kc reg- probably because they were endorsed not for breeding but people did it anyway! what about the price of british bulldogs? they are 2000 and most have large litters, even with cost of c.section they must make a huge profit and the poor dogs only live 6 years i believe.

If you are happy to pay a price,  it is not expensive,   each to their own

yup -same with blue Staffordshire bull terriers...:rolleyes:

the rarity of the colour commands prices up to and in excess of £1000...

silly enough to pay it, then the price will stay the same :rolleyes:

I believe blue staffs are often pit bull terriers, advertised as blue staffs so the breeders can advertise publicly without fear of legal recrimination, I'd not be surprised if that pushed the price up too, if the dogs advertised were proven fighters or the like.  Disgusting as that is.

Of course not all of them are pits, but it's the same with Irish staffs - some are the genuine article but a lot are illegal.

I have a "blue" staffy and she most certainy is not a pitbul!!!  you really should not make such broad assumptions.  Whilst some people are stupid enought to want to pay way over the odds for what they think is a "rare" colour, this does not make them pibulls.

sadly, its not broad assumptions, the illegal pitbulls were and possibly still are, advertised on a site and papers that are open to all classified ads, and they were pitbulls or crosses. Its the 'code' used by the idiots that breed dogs to fight, and of course the genuine ones can be slured with this brush.

Please re-read my post sponge - I said I believe they are often advertised as staffs when they are really pitbulls; and I also said that of course not all of them are pit bulls.  I know there is such as thing as a blue staff, but sadly a lot of less decent people than those of us here will use the moniker to sell their illegal fighting stock.

And I don't consider it a personal assumption, or at least certainly not a broad one - I have seen/read/heard many times of people using the staff name to sell pit bulls.  As I have with "Irish" staffs, or "red nose" staffs etc.

Someone I know recently went to see a litter of 'bulldogs', they were advertised as something like 'oldtime' or 'oldtype' can't quite remember. Anyway, my friend said that the bitch looked a bit like a bulldog, but the father looked just like a pitbull. She didn't/wouldn't touch them with a barge pole. I regularly (in Derbyshire) see very large staffies, which to me look like pitbulls, I don't think for a minute that people have stopped breeding them. There was a programme on our local news the other night with an undercover reporter locating one very easily to buy. I think it's very scary, no-one in there right mind should be breeding pitbulls, never mind owning them.
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I believe blue staffs are often pit bull terriers

wrong:rolleyes:

edited to say - not keen on the blue's myself - but that's just a personal preference...

hasn't this gone a bit off topic?

Yes it has, so can we refer back to the original question please :)

hasn't this gone a bit off topic?

I thought it was 'flowing' as some topics do.....but back to the OP, and yes, it does sound excessive, but then a lot of dogs are expensive, I guess if that is the sort of dog you want then you have to pay the price. Little wonder people think that breeding dogs is money in the bank for leisure pursuits. :rolleyes:

what can be done

People have to stop buying them AND If and when they do buy them if they get very poor examples of the breed demand their money back. 

They more you pay for something the bigger the right you have it reflects value and what is should represent. This applies to dogs. 

However that is in a ideal world ........................

If people pay the silly prices then it will continue. We life in a " must have the latest trend society".. till this ends dogs are being dragged through it also..

Are Frenchies extremly rare and do they have problems whelping/small litters?

How much do the top show breeders charge, don't the top prices we see usually come from there and work down? Why are they asking so much in the first place.

Compared to my breed the registration figures aren't that low (526 in 2006) but a lot lower than bulldogs which have a staggering 3,522 registered lst year, and pups are more expensive in that breed.