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Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / Another barking question
- By Harley Date 27.09.07 19:06 UTC
My daughter's terrier is 7 months old and came to us from a rescue at 5 months old. When he first came to us - having been in their kennels for a month - he drove us crazy with his barking. He barked at everything, even the grass growing would set him off :eek: :D

His barking at home is now under control. We ignored the barking and praised and treated him for being quiet and he is soooooooo much better now and will even ignore other dogs barking if he hears them when out in the garden. If he barks we use the word quiet and he stops straight away.

BUT in the car he is a nightmare. He is quiet for the first 5 or so minutes and then barks continually all the way to wherever I am going to walk the dogs. He ignores the word quiet in the car, so I have stopped using it there, (but he still responds to it at home). He literally barks the whole time and there is very rarely even the tiniest nano-second when he stops so never have the opportunity to praise for being quiet - it just doesn't happen:eek:

After his walk he doesn't make a sound all the way home. He has one walk on his own each day so is in the car by himself  and the other walk is with Harley who never barks in the car and very rarely barks at all. As well as being annoying it is also very distracting when you are driving. When we get to our destination I don't open the tailgate until he has stopped barking which can take up to 6 or 7 minutes but seems hours when I am standing there red with embarrassment as other walkers walk off with their wonderfully quiet dogs :D He usually travels in the cargo area of the car and I have tried him on a seat belt harness in the back seat but then he spent his whole time jumping up the back seat trying to get through the dog guard to be with Harley and still barked non-stop.

I have tried taking him out in the car but not walking him so he doesn't always associate travelling in the car with going for a walk but he still barks.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to stop this behaviour please? For such a small dog he has a very loud bark and it's driving me mad :eek: :)
- By Dakkobear [gb] Date 27.09.07 19:30 UTC
On some of these dog training type shows I'm sure they got the dog used to being in the car by getting it to jump in for a treat or feeding them in the car but not driving anywhere then they did various stages like starting the car but not drving off etc. Don't know if it would help with this problem but I can certainly sympathise as Dakko did this whenever he heard a motorbike or saw another dog from the car. It was a nightmare.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 27.09.07 19:48 UTC
Have you tried stopping the moment he starts (when it is safe of course) and refuse to drive on until he is quiet.
- By Harley Date 27.09.07 20:18 UTC
[i[Have you tried stopping the moment he starts/i]

I have tried that Brainless - he does eventually stop but after quite a long time. The second I start to praise him he starts barking again so I never actually get the full words out. I once spent nearly an hour parked up waiting for quiet :eek: One of the problems with stopping the car is that it is a narrow country lane so very few places to park in.

I am sure it is just excitement as he is as quiet as a mouse going home. I have thought about getting a small crate and covering it so he can't see out. If he sits on someone's lap he "sings" rather than barks but it is usually only myself in the car so he has to be behind the dog guard. The only time he has stopped barking was one time when Harley growled at him - I think H was getting a headache from the noise :D

I do walk him other places that don't involve a car ride but his off lead walk is a car ride away - our beach still has it's dog ban on it until the end of October and there aren't really any other safe places to let him off.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 27.09.07 20:22 UTC
What about turning around and going straight back home?  That way you are not delaying his reward, but giving him a negative consequence.

My Friends Border collies do this except when I am in the car.  I started with the water squirter in the face until I had silence, now just my presence has the desired effect.  Though with a terrier the water may not be a deterrent, and he may attack it.
- By Harley Date 28.09.07 08:05 UTC
now just my presence has the desired effect.

So can I book my training session with you now please.

This morning I have taken him to the vets to be neutered (very young I know but has to be done as part of DogsTrust rehoming agreement). He barked all the way there and in the waiting room. One of the vet nurses came out as he was making such a row and asked me where he came from as she has a dog of same age and looks. She thinks they may be litter brothers  as she knows one of the boys was given up to a local rescue. She said her dog is the same but has also just started to howl :eek: :eek:I have enough trouble with barking and just don't do howling :eek: :D

Perhaps Cooper's trip to the vets might persuade him that not all car journeys are something to get excited about :D :)
- By morgan [gb] Date 28.09.07 09:20 UTC
how about covering his area somehow so he cant see out, might have a calming effect.
- By LJS Date 28.09.07 12:05 UTC
:d :d Poor lad :eek::eek: he will associate every car journey from now own that he will have his manhood removed so I am sure he will be quiet from now on :D :D
- By Harley Date 28.09.07 12:54 UTC
he will associate every car journey from now own that he will have his manhood removed

I have been practising making "snipping" noises all morning - my new anti-barking control method :D :D
- By JaneG [gb] Date 28.09.07 13:01 UTC
I have been practising making "snipping" noises all morning

:D We really need an evil grin smiley don't we :D
- By Brainless [gb] Date 28.09.07 13:29 UTC
You could just say 'where's that brick' in a meaningful tone.
- By LJS Date 28.09.07 13:52 UTC
:D :D :D

You are a norty mummy :D
- By Dogz Date 28.09.07 13:57 UTC
Our Jack barks in the 'focus' as he can see out, but in the 'galaxy' he cant see and is quiet!
So I'd say go with covering his cage.

Karen ;-)
- By Harley Date 28.09.07 15:29 UTC
I have just collected him from the vet's. They put him first on their list as he was so noisy :eek: and was setting the other dogs off. Coming home in the car I didn't hear a peep out of him though. Instead of him barking with excitement "Let's go, let's go, let's go" I will probably get even more furious barking now "I don't want to go, I don't want to go" :eek: :D :D Still he won't be going in the car for a few days yet as it is just short lead walks for him.

As an aside I saw a poster in the vets asking for blood donor dogs and have signed my GR up but haven't told  him yet :D :). When I first mentioned it to the vet she had a look of horror on her face - I think she thought I was volunteering Cooper so quickly told me he was too small to be a donor but was pleased that it was Harley's services I was volunteering.
Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / Another barking question

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