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By Star
Date 29.08.07 19:02 UTC
Does anyone know if the statutory holiday entitlement is due to change. I only get 20 days a year including Bank Hols but read somwhere that this is to be increased to 24 sometime possibly 2008.Thnx
I thought under European Law the minimum days holidays you should get is 21+ Stat days depending on your contract.
I thought everyone was supposed to get 20 days plus Bank holidays.
By Star
Date 29.08.07 19:11 UTC
I was told when I started thats all I got but it could be changing under new laws. Its what my contract states at the moment. My Line Manger thought an extra one is due in October but with the cange of Prime Minister the other 3 may not be until 08 or even 09

For a full time employee it is at present 20 days. From 1st October it goes up to 24 days.
Bank Holidays are according to your contract. They can be included in the above holiday entitlement or you may be contracted to work them as a normal day with no extra pay or day off in lieu. Or of course as a most cases they are extra to the above.
By Star
Date 29.08.07 19:43 UTC
Thanks Sandra
Is this written anywhere on a website or anything?
By Lea
Date 29.08.07 20:04 UTC

Now thats confusing :( :(
I work 24 hours a week. mon, thurs, fri
So bank holidays are always on working days so are in with my holiday entitlement.
SO
How many days should I have holiday?????
I took 2 1/2 weeks off which equalled 8 working days. Is this my whole holiday entiltelment????
Lea :)
Where I work they give you the time back if it isn't your working day, so you can take the time off whenever you want.
I don't work Mon or Tues so I get Bank holiday Monday at another time.
By Daisy
Date 29.08.07 20:37 UTC
I don't work Mondays either :) What we do is look at the calendar for the year and see how many Bank Holidays I will actually get off (ie they fall on Tuesday to Friday) - I should get 4/5 of 8 therefore 6ish - so if I won't actually get this number of Bank Holidays off then I get the additional days added to my holiday (which, as Barbara says, is 4/5 of 20 days ie 16 working days). Totally clear :D :D :D
Daisy

We're entitled to 20 days or pro-rata a year. If you do 4 shifts a week and take a week off, you get holiday pay for those 4 shifts. Our surgery is closed on Bank Holidays so nobody gets paid for the shifts that they would have done if it hadn't been a holiday.
By Daisy
Date 29.08.07 20:45 UTC
Won't you get 24 days (pro rata)from October then ???
Daisy

I doubt it!
By Daisy
Date 29.08.07 20:47 UTC
You should do !! :) :)
Daisy

I won't be holding my breath!
By Daisy
Date 29.08.07 20:50 UTC
Can't you just make a comment next time you take time off 'Oooh, I suppose we'll get more from October when the new EU holiday laws apply' :D :D :D Worth a try :D :D
Daisy

Ah, you're picturing a normal workplace scene with more than one person in attendance most of the time. ;) We communicate by Post-it notes stuck to the computer screen. :D
By Daisy
Date 29.08.07 20:54 UTC
LOL - just leave a note then :D :D :D
Daisy

As our holiday year runs from January, it'll only be a single shift extra owing this year. I don't think anyone will bother.
By Blue
Date 29.08.07 23:25 UTC

Just leave the post it note and sign off in someone name accidentally :-D :-D :-D
( just kidding would never advocate fraud ;-) )
By Brainless
Date 29.08.07 20:12 UTC
Edited 29.08.07 20:17 UTC

Basically you get proportion of the days so if you work 3 days a week you would get 4 weeks holiday which for you would be 3 x 4 = 12 days. If you simply work a five day week but fewer hours you would still get 20 days (4 weeks) but only the number of hours you work.
If you work say a 3 days week you would get 3/5ths of the Bank Holiday entitlement.

As I understand it you're entitled to Bank Holidays off, but not necessarily paid. If you have to work them then you usually get extra pay or a day off in lieu. If your workplace closes for Bank Holidays you usually get them as unpaid leave. I've known some workplaces include them in your annual 20 days entitlement, which is a bit harsh.
By Daisy
Date 29.08.07 21:01 UTC
> As I understand it you're entitled to Bank Holidays off, but not necessarily paid
Yes - but you are entitled to 4.8 weeks
paid holiday (pro rata) from 1 October - so if your Bank Holidays aren't paid, you must still get the 4.8 weeks in addition :)
Daisy

According to the link I found, there is no statutory entitlement to
paid leave for public holidays.
By Daisy
Date 29.08.07 21:12 UTC
No - but you should still get the extra paid holiday tho' :) It does mean - (taking the year as a whole) that you will lose out on the pay you would have got had you worked those Bank Holidays :( :( Although it did say somewhere that if other full-time people are getting paid for the Bank Holidays then part-timers should be treated the same - I am :)
Daisy

It's perfectly legal for Bank Holidays to be counted as part of your annual 20 days entitlement, not as extra. We have no fulltime workers in my actual workplace - some people at the other branch are fulltime, but not at mine.
By Daisy
Date 29.08.07 21:25 UTC
> It's perfectly legal for Bank Holidays to be counted as part of your annual 20 days entitlement, not as extra
Yes - but if they aren't paying you for them, then you should get the extra paid days from October :)
Daisy

Officially there will be four extra days leave a year from October 1st. That's a single day this year (according to our holiday year) - if it's four days in a year, that's a single day per quarter. The Bank Holidays will still be unpaid leave - the holiday will be a single paid shift.
It's not the sort of job where you can just demand time off. ;) "Sorry, your sick pet will have to wait till next week" wouldn't go down very well. :D
By Daisy
Date 29.08.07 21:42 UTC
What's the point of having a holiday entitlement if you can't actually take it ? :D It's the same with most jobs. I work in a small company and have to fit my holiday in with the others so we have cover for the phones etc. We also have to take three days of our holiday off at Xmas whether we want to or not :( We get an extra days holiday for each year that we have been in the company at the 31st December, but as I only work 4 days a week, I have to wait for two years until I qualify for a whole extra day off :rolleyes:
Daisy
By Blue
Date 29.08.07 23:36 UTC
We get an extra days holiday for each year that we have been in the company at the 31st December, but as I only work 4 days a week, I have to wait for two years until I qualify for a whole extra day off That is disgraceful Daisy. Companies should be ashamed of themselves.
I don't mean this as a brag but the first thing I did when I got a bit of clout within my company was to increase the holidays. We now enjoy 25 days plus 9 bank/public holidays.. everyone should be the same.
When I joined the company I work for now I was employed by a Swedish office and I couldn't believe the holidays they got. They take a week to wind down, then 2-3 weeks holiday them a week to wind back up :-) no kidding 4-5 weeks off. I think the law is they are entitled to a min of 3 weeks in the summer. I now work for the British side of the business so went on a holiday mission. :-)
It is the "top answer" when employees are asked what is more important to them.
By Blue
Date 29.08.07 23:30 UTC
It's not the sort of job where you can just demand time off. "Sorry, your sick pet will have to wait till next week" wouldn't go down very well. Most peoples jobs are not :-) BUT if they are open then they make money so they dig their hands in their pocket and pay you.. It is not like they are paying you for days that no money is made.
Some companies ( not meaning yours) need a big kick up the butt.

I've just found
this useful page which seems to answer most of the questions. :)
By craigles
Date 29.08.07 21:17 UTC
Get a job in education JG loads of holidays and training days. Just lately I seem to have more time off than there, I'm getting fed up with the place!
By Liisa
Date 29.08.07 21:36 UTC
Yes I work in Education and I get a silly amount of AL.
By craigles
Date 29.08.07 21:43 UTC
Liisa, I'm glad someone else say we get a silly amount of a/l, as most of the people I work with insist we need this amount of time for lesson planning and Schemes of Work etc., get on with it as you go along and then like me you wouldn't need the days off for it! Very often I work on mine on a weekly basis updating as and when necessary. I agree you need to keep up to date with courses etc., but they are planned training days. Oftsted coming in shouldn't be a problem so long as everything is in place! Guess who got a level 1 in a teaching observation! (big headed emotcion in here!)
Im totaly lost

If a person normally gets
20 days holiday inc bank holidays
and that person works every monday, what happens do they get an extra day off as they normally work a monday or not? Im lost!

It's part of your 20 days. If you get bank holidays
as well as your annual 20 days, then you usually get another day in lieu.
sorry, so therefore I wouldnt get anything else? Would I still get paid for that monday though as it would be my holiday entitle ment, it would just mean everyone else would get two days off that week and I would only get one (say if there days off was a tue?)

You'd get that Monday as part of your paid holiday entitlement. You'd work the other 4 days as normal, as would the people who don't usually work Mondays. If their contracts also say that bank holidays are part of the annual holiday, then they wouldn't get another day off either.
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