I am feeling really so angry and frustrated!

The police managed to foil two car bombs in London yesterday - today people have tried to ram a burning car into Aberdeen Airport - and now we are on a Security 4 alert.   HOW DARE THESE PEOPLE - in all probability we have raised them amongst our own, thinking that they were our own - and now - because we have a slight change of government - and of course, a concert in London honouring a princess that was killed whilst going out with a muslim - we have these threats - I repeat HOW DARE THEY!

Margot

I suppose that is the nature of fanaticism :(
It was Glasgow by the way.

Can't understand it!   Why Glasgow airport???  Edinburgh (cos the Queen's been opening the Scottish Parliament) maybe, but Glasgow??

Something to do with Gordon Brown being Scottish?

I sense a rocky road ahead...

And yes Margot - I completely understand where you are coming from. No doubt its our taxes that have funded the lifestyles of some of these terrorists. Its a damn cheek and then some

Tony Blair was also Scottish. Born in Edinburgh, Educated in Edinburgh. lived most of his life in England though.

Gordon Brown I believe was born in Glasgow.

Terrorist always target places where they will get the most publicity!  islamic terrorist groups seem to be going for high number of casualties, just look at the London bombings!

Glasgow was probably picked because it is the biggest and busiest airport in Scotland. 

Wouldn't you like to just bag em all up, and drop them in the ocean, it's alot cheaper than building more prisons.

I am so annoyed. Its the start of the childrens summer holidays , what a start to there holiday to see a man on fire must have been a nightmare for the children a frightening experience for all concerned. Everyone in that terminal building must have been so scared for there life . I worked for the airlines when sept 11th happened and it did make me think

Sorry - was trying to post and talk on the telephone at the same time :rolleyes:  I meant Glasgow!

I am all for freedom of speech - I have railed against racism all my life, but I am beginning to think that we have all treated tolerence too lightly :(    With rights come responsibilities, and these people have no concept of responsibility to those who have sheltered them.

I know that it is a tiny minority who are causing this mayhem - but we, as a nation, have been too indulgent to the whims and fancies of the fanatics, and it looks as if we are paying the price.    

Margot

I have heard that it could be a backlash against Salman Rushdie getting whatever award he got recently.   

When I heard that Salman Rushdie was being knighted the first thing I said was that a load of trouble would start.  I'm sorry I don't think that he should of been given one and the trouble has started since this was announced!

Did think it was the Scottish thing with Gordon Brown but I think it was just grab the moment being fired up by the attempted bombs in London.  Thank goodness no-one innocent was hurt.  Why can't these people see what a great country we live in - freedom of speech - even Salmon Rushdie gets his books published - has anyone tried to read one?  I ploughed through Satanic Verses to see what the fuss was and I never want to read another of his books again.  What has he done for literature?  If all that fuss hadn't been made most of us would never have heard of him.   It frightens me that these people are so hard and show nothing for their fellow humans. 

It scares me that they must think nothing really of themselves or their families they leave behind if they end up killing themselves :rolleyes:

If they're Muslim extremists like before, they will actually think they are going to be rewarded in the afterlife and so will their families.  There's a contradiction there somewhere because it means their actions are selfish and not one bit selfless which is what they would like us to believe.

Don't lose your abhorance of racism Margot.  This isn't an entire race that are carrying out these outragious acts or an entire religion.  To make us all hate each other is their main objective.  Don't let them win.

I thought well done to the guy who wrestled the burning 'person' who got out the car.  However, I was disappointed that the 'person' wasn't shoved back into the burning car :rolleyes:  Does that make me a bad person?

Yes, the bravery of the people that tackled the situation head on was astonishing. 
I can understand your feelings Cheryl :) but getting the terriorists alive is a terrific coup.  They will be a great potential source of information, imprisonment is a greater punishment to them as death is what they were prepared for plus the propoganda from a failed attempt is a strike at the heart to others of that ilk I would think.

Yes, I know it's a great coup to get them alive as was getting the unexploded bomb yesterday and I don't just mean because it didn't cause death and destruction.  It's worrying though that these latest attempts were bungled rather than foiled.

But the thing is how to predict they will attack via a car an airport in Scotland, it seems to me the "places" attacked will be the soft underbelly, of the Country, not the well guarded/protected areas.

We should take from this story the bravery of the average person the people who
wrestled the terrorists to the ground not the cowardice of the man/men who although it appears willing to kill other people decided burning to death was not for them and ran - Coward.

What really bothers me is, 'awareness of the cause' why mass murder?
Surely major disruption doesn't need to entail that! I cant comprehend any of it.
Karen

>I cant comprehend any of it.

That's because you're a normal, reasonable human being, not a brain-washed fanatic. They're just not rational.

I live in Glasgow and we are all shocked here as although we have been watching in horror,the bombings and carnage in London,we dont have such a large Asian population here and did not apparantly have the extra security that London and other airports have.I think that will all change now.I am glad they were captured and glad the one on fire is now suffering severe burns in hospital.Didnt stop him from lashing out at the people who were trying to help him.Other bystanders were shouting"let them burn" when they realised it wasn't an accident but a deliberate attempt to maim and kill.Where is it all going to end?I fear for the future of my grandchildren,who are slowly being brainwashed out of their heritage.

Apparently they rented a house - so probabally weren't from around there. 

Amazing that they caught both the London bombers, not far from here on the M6!! 

Are they the London bombers ?? Missed that bit :)

Daisy

Yes they are the two London Car Bombers I believe.  It was on our local radio about 2 hours ago.

Good - at least they won't be able to do anything else then :(

Daisy

Not 100% been confirmed I think but I heard both of the men in the car that hit the airport are doctors working in this country.  Possibly one of the others also.

I thought medical students but they have arrested a doctor in Liverpool.  There was one person outstanding to arrest - but did I hear they had got that one too.  Our airport has banned cars from stopping in front - everyone has to go to the carparks and make their way by bus.  I wonder how they will organise dropping off and picking up - it will take a while to get things going smoothly.

It has been like that for a while at Manchester.  Picking up and dropping off is done at the carpark where you are allowed, I think, 15 minutes free parking.  It seems to work out very well, infact a lot more civilised than the bun fight that used to occur alongside the doors.  Of course picking up you never know how long you will be so I always tended to park up anyway.

Since read one car stopped on M6 had a doctor in it with his wife and one of the drivers that actually hit the building at Glasgow was a doctor other one not confirmed.

I dont think most of us will ever get our head around this martar business, our upbringing would always be to save and cherish life.

That to me is what makes these people so dangerous. They are not scared of  death or consequences were most civilised people are.

There is awareness of these extremist minorities but the general muslim community seem to be finding it difficult to flush them out into the open. I think there is a general distrust of the police and so until that is addressed and there is more cohesion between the comminities they will always find it easy to hide :( It is shame the families don't take more responsibilty but again their seems to be a lot of loyalty there as well :(

They may not have had a clue of course.  I have heard several Muslim community leaders talking about the steps they are taking to stop young people being radicalised and it was clear they were as distressed as anyone that it happened.  I would guess one of the first things they are taught by the extremists is how to secrete their aims and missions.

Apparently the injured terrorist was a doctor who worked at the hospital they are now treating him in!!! how hard must that be for the staff there.  I'm up at that hospital every couple of weeks with my mum who has cancer and the staff could not be nicer.  It is incomprehensible that people who train to be doctors to help save people would want to commit mass murder at the airport.

They have detinated a car outside that actual hospital today.

I am amazed at doctors being involved in wanting to take life when they are supposed to be dedicated to saving lives.  I am sure doctors and nurses see terrible things in Iraq with so many innocent people being hurt - but they are being hurt by the same sort of people there too - those that think they can manipulate the country by violence.