Just thought that I'd post the main breed intake figures for 2006 (from the Battersea Annual Review):

Only those larger numbers - ask me if you want figures for other breeds:

Border Collie 265(purebred) - 221(crosses)
German Shepherd 509/172
Greyhound 128/0
Jack Russell Terrier 526/336
Retriever (Labrador) 285/168
Rottweiler 299/88
Staffordshire Bull Terrier 1389/625
Yorkshire Terrier 148/43

Totals 4926/3388

Sad isn't it :(

Daisy

It confirms what is noticeable about staffys - there are far, far too many being produced. :(

Like I mentioned the other day after we'd visited the local stray kennels -the great majority of dogs there were Staffies and Staffy crosses. Whilst we were there a dog was checked up on, it had just been dumped, and when checking the microchip they found the same dog had been re-homed by them 5 years ago. :(

It's been the same here in Bristol, and the worst of it is it includes litters of pups.

>Staffordshire Bull Terrier 1389/625

Wow that's mad. I was talking to someone the other day about how sad I feel for people who were seriously involved in the breed before it was seemingly taken over by unsavoury types, for want of a better term. Can't imagine how heartbreaking it must be to have worked hard towards good breeding, temperament, etc only to have people breeding them left right and center without a second thought. 99% of the ones I meet now are all aggressive and all massively over-sized. Very sad.

What were the figures for Dobermanns just out of interest?

Beat me to it Zarah, just what I was going to ask.

Dobermanns 68/14

Daisy

These are truly shocking figures - the picture over the whole country must be dire. Sadly typical of our 'throw away' society - don't like it, chuck it out and get a new one. I don't know how these people can live with themselves. I know there are some genuinely sad cases where people have no choice but to rehome but the vast majority just don't seem to care. Maybe we do need some dog owning legislation in this country.

Any figures for Poodle crosses?

Poodles - very low :)

Miniature 4/5
Standard 1/0
Toy 8/4

Portugese Water Dog 1/0

Daisy

Do they have a special category for labradoodles etc?

And the dal figures?

No Labradoodles Dogs are only listed by offical breed :D :D :D ;)

Dalmatians 34/7

Daisy

Are there any Bearded Collies/Beardie crosses?

Kay

Bearded Collies 5/5

Daisy

Hello Daisy, have you got a link of the report, or a copy? i would be most grateful

cheers, clutha

We were sent the review as we are supporters of Battersea - I'm not sure whether it's on their website

Daisy

Please could I have Golden Retriever figures :) Thank you :)

56/11

Daisy

hi daisy, couldnt see it on their site. only if you have it on your pc could you copy and paste here or pm me a copy?

thank you

What a shame because I bet that they have had Poodle crosses in there!

Large Munsterlanders?

I'm willing to bet that a number of those Jack Russells bear only a passing resemblance to a pukka JRT too. Poor little things!

What a shame because I bet that they have had Poodle crosses in there!

it is just as likely that there were purebreds as well.... lots of purebreds end up in rescue as well

Thats really sad!!

I wonder what the main reasons for re-homing were? Do they document this?

We would have happily taken on a rescue dog over here but they don't like to re-home with young kids, is that the same in the UK?

xx

were there any newfoundlands amongst them?  I hope not, I couldnt bear it

Were there any figures for mastiffs??

Bullmastiff  41/70
Neopolitan Mastiff 6/6
Old English Mastiff 7/9

Daisy

Newfoundlands 2/0

Daisy

Large Munsterlanders 2/0

Daisy

I wonder if they really were LM's, it's amazing what LM rescue takes in under the 'banner' of LM!

I wonder how many where LM but just put as a setter cross or springer cross?  (Likewise those crosses being called LM's)

I'm not sure how they categorise the dogs :) Obviously they will take note of what the owners tell them if the dogs are handed in for rehoming. How they deal with strays - goodness knows :D Bramble is a total mutt - but predominantly GSD (well, that's the only obvious breed :D ) - but as he was a stray, they wouldn't have anything else to go by. How they deal with true cross-breeds I don't know as they obviously don't class dogs as 1/2 this and 1/2 that :D :D I assume that they must choose the most dominant breed I assume that it is down to the person who 'admits' the dog - some must be more knowledgeable than others :)

Daisy

Sadly typical of our 'throw away' society - don't like it, chuck it out and get a new one
yep it is so sad. 

Dogs are supposed to be mentally like a 3 to 5 year old child ... if only people would think how a child that age would feel to be treated the way they treat dogs.

Where there any Irish red and white setters or aussie shepherds?

Must say talking of rescues we currently have back a bitch we bred, (geniuin reasons of her owner can no longer cope to illness), one of the owners friends said she has a possible home...by which she acctually ment she has a friend who works in wood green who would put the dog into kennels!  Luckily we have kept good contact with the owner and the bitch is back with us oing though breed club rescue. There's no-way this bitch is going into any kennels even though we don't really have space!

Any beagles?

Beagles 10/12

Daisy

Sorry to jump on the bandwagon Daisy - but were there any borzois? LOL... by the end of this thread you'll have retyped the entire article :)

Sorry to ask where there any vizslas?

Hungarian Vizslas 3/1

Daisy

Borzois 0/1

Daisy

It is very sad. It would be interesting to do a comparison of the number of rescues against the amount of pure breds that are registered with the KC. I wonder however how many of these are not registered :rolleyes:

well, whenever we got a pure breed at FOAL Farm with KC breeders pedigree papers, and phoned the breeder to see if they wanted him/her back themselves, they always said no.

I dare say the breeders whose dogs end up in general rescue are often more likely those NOT reputable. Sure it can happen to anyone, but as any reputable breeder will tell the puppy buyer they will take the dog back at any time no matter what (and also try to keep in touch with the new owners), it's far more likely that pedigree dogs in rescue are ones from breeders who never offered this -hence not wanting to know if contacted either. I can guarantee any of us here would jump straight in the car if we had a call from a rescue saying they had a dog we'd bred. In fact I did once with a cat -the owner had died suddenly and the RSPCA took all the cats. (Although they didn't phone ME, but the moment I found out I called them and thankfully they let me have the cat back.)

I think these days you'd have to take into account the dog lovers' reg dogs too to get a more accurate idea.  I'm seeing more and more ads for pups with DL reg in the freeads, as if it's any better than not registering the dogs.  :rolleyes:

Of course many purebreds will go through breed rescues.

I'vwe known some dogs go to rescue where I know that the breeders have said to come back to them if there are any problems etc. or if you want them rehoming.  I think many people are too ashamed to go back to the breeders and admit their failings :rolleyes:  Shame really because if they went to the breeders when the problem first started being shown they may have been able to sort things out and put things right!

I believe many many dogs that are in rescue have started their lives being bred for the pet market and sold from pet shops (pet shop licence holders) premises, where people have purchased a puppy on impulse.  One only has to look in any of the free ad papers to see the amount of young puppies and dogs that are up for rehoming anything from 6 months to 2 years. Where have these been born and bred by and why haven't they been offered back to the breeder?  My bet is that most owners do not even know who the breeder was, having purchased from a third party in the first place, possibly with dodgy meaningless paperwork. Possibly a large majority in Battersea and other rescues have started their life in the same way.
It is time that puppies were not allowed to be sold from third parties. It would be interesting if the numbers of dogs reduced in rescues if ever this was introduced.
Far too many dogs are bred and sold indescriminately to individuals who are not committed to owning a dog for life, only until the novelty wears off.
Maybe microchipping or identification of all puppies were to be made compulsory before sale (the breeder legal responsibility) would help.  This would at least link the puppy to the breeder for identification purposes for its life, the new owner could then later add their details always making somone responsible for caring for the puppy/dog. This would aso identify breeders that are breeding excessively.
It really is no wonder there are too many dogs bred when it is known that some individuals have 200 dogsand others are licensed for 150 plus. It is totally irresponsible.      

I haven't seen a puppy in a pet shop for years, are they still allowed to sell them? i thought it was banned in the Uk now? I do agree about the impulse buy though, but there are a lot of people who expect perfectly trained dogs and children without actually putting any effort or energy into either - the dogs are just easier for them to abandon than the children are! There are a number of breeders who are in it purely to make money and are not interested in the pups once the cash is handed over,until something is done to prevent all and sundry breeding from any old dog or bitch, then being allowed to register them with the Kennel Club this problem will go on and some extremely good breeds will continue to suffer.

Sadly it is perfectly legal to sell puppies in petshops in the UK and yes some still do. It wasn't that long ago we had a poster here who had bought a puppy in a pet shop in London. Further up north there is an infamous puppy superstore where you can basically get any breed you want....... :(

Oh and by the way pups not being KC registered makes no difference because Joe Public does not know the difference between KC reg and "the other reg" that was invented by a pet shop....and is becoming more and more common.