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- By Crazydoglady [gb] Date 23.05.07 12:49 UTC
How do you cope with having entire dogs and bitches in the same house? :confused:
Gypsy is due in season late June this will mean Brody (who is also entire) will be around 5 months. I'm gussing he may well be interested in her by then! :rolleyes:
So how do you all cope with it?
My friend has offered to have him while she's in season, or I work in a kennel so he/she could go there, or will I be able to manage them in the house just keeping them seperate?
Up till now I've always just had bitches so this is new for me! :cool:
At the moment I don't want to spay/neuter either one of them.
Thanks!
Holly
- By JaneG [gb] Date 23.05.07 14:45 UTC
I've always just kept my boys and girls in the same house but it's not easy - and it's not fun. It very much depends on your dog, who may still be too young to get too upset but I actually hated my boys (before they were neutered)when the girls where in season. You can't speak to them, or cuddle them or reason with them - all they wanted to do was get through the door between them and the girls. They didn't eat, they howled 24/7 and peed everywhere.

Am I making neutering one of them sound like a very good idea? :D
- By Goldmali Date 23.05.07 15:12 UTC
Like chaumsong says a lot depends on the male dog. I've always had mine separated in the house, but then I've also always had the house split into two parts with no way of the two meeting by accident (i.e. at least two gates/doors in between each part), and different doors for going outside as well. Most of my male dogs have just accepted it no problem. I've tried kenneling either sex but no luck they just bark and bark and I give up. I've had just one dog that wouldn't stop howling all the time and in the end I gave up and had him neutered -he is unwell anyway so would never be sued for breeding or showing so it made sense.
- By yrlance Date 23.05.07 15:16 UTC
We sent our boy to kennels, but he came back just as bad.  He had lost weight and was all over her, she told him off but it took him two days to get back to normal.  I think i may send her to kennels next time instead of him..  We are still trying to get the weight back on him before he goes out to any shows again. 
Not an easy one, we have gates and two runs so it is possible but he howls if he sees her.  If you don't show maybe neutering is the way to go. 
Yvonne
- By JoFlatcoat (Moderator) [gb] Date 23.05.07 16:11 UTC
Depends entirely on the breed.

We have 3 entire dogs and 6 entire bitches in the house - no problem, although in fairness, husband takes the boys to work with him every day.

They're separated, of course.

I tried an 'Oust' air freshener in the boy's place last time we had the bitches in season, and I really think they didn't really know.   Not sure about the chemicals in it, though......(???)

Jo
- By ChristineW Date 23.05.07 17:47 UTC
Curtis just goes to friends of mine for the 'worst' part of Mia's season and it's a big weight off of my mind.  He got to her accidentally when he was a puppy and mated her so I just don't take any risks anymore.  He'd have been a father before he was old enough to be hip scored!   :eek:
- By perrodeagua [gb] Date 23.05.07 22:52 UTC
The girls go to grandma and grandad's for 4 weeks or so has to be this long as it has been known for the breed to be mated on their 18th and 20th days!!
- By jennyb59 [gb] Date 23.05.07 23:20 UTC
Ive got that now, my younger boy of 14 months is a real pain in the butt, whining, whingeing, growling at the older boy, trying to bonk the other female that isnt in season too, my older boy 21 months is really quiet only whines occassionally, but if given the chance he would be there, he likes to sneak up, you think he isnt interested but, hes there in a flash,As they have to stay here, Ive found that if they can see the bitch they are better than if I try to keep them out of sight, they are separted by baby gates and so far.... this works, unless my daughter leaves one slightly open, but thats another story......
:eek:
- By Brainless [gb] Date 24.05.07 08:24 UTC Edited 24.05.07 08:31 UTC
Don't it would be a nightmare. 

I choose to own only bitches. 

It would be impossible and cruel to keep a male in my house, as the only way into the garden is through the kitchen which is accessed through the living room, so no way to keep them from seeing each other. 

Males really do suffer if they have a bitch in season under their very noses and are not allowed to mate her.

Any self respecting male would be over a baby gate.

I have the tall one and had a male I bred staying here to mate a friends bitch who wasn't staying here.  He just visited her each day and he was terrible wanting to be with her (previously bitches had stayed here with him) and he jumped the tall gate.  I told him it wasn't allowed and he was a good boy and didn't do it again :)

I looked after a friends in season bitch until day 21, and warned them that she still seemed receptive.  After two days she was less vigilant with her male who promptly jumped the baby gate when her back was turned nd tied with his Aunt on Day 23.
- By Til [gb] Date 24.05.07 11:38 UTC
Hi crazydoglady.  Although having dogs as a child I am a relative newcomer and have an entire GR and a Irish Setter bitch who is now spayed.  I originally wanted to wait until she was more mature before spaying as I had heard that the ideal time was after 2 or 3 seasons, but after her first season I didn't want to put either of them (or me!) through it again ... it was NOT easy!  It is possible but I didn't feel it was fair to go through it all again.  We had not long come back from hols and they had been in kennels and had missed us and lost weight so I didn't feel able to kennel one of them again so soon, and my back up plan of one of them staying with my MIL didn't work out because of a berevement in the family.  My bitch (her name is also Gypsy!) then went on to have a false pregnancy. :rolleyes:  Although I was worried about having her spayed (it is a major op after all) she is fine now and due to have the stitches out on Saturday.  No more seasons, no more false pregnancies YIPPEE!!:cool:
- By jennyb59 [gb] Date 24.05.07 14:15 UTC
Must admit mine ar better being able to see the bitch, if I keep her out of the way in another room they are a lot worse, mine too have to go out the same way and I swap them from kitchen to dogs room and the boys have got used to it, they pass her to go out and its working for me, I remember reading on here that someone had trained their males that there was a certain routine when they were going to be used as stud and unless that happened they left the bitches alone, dont think I'd trust mine that far but the older boy certainly seems to know the routine, the younger boy is a full time pest anyway but although whingey is a lot better than the last round of seasons, I think that they can get used to it !!!!!!!
- By paulaj [in] Date 24.05.07 16:59 UTC
Hi there

We've just had our first experience of this and we were surprised.  Our bitch had her first season and beforehand (months beforehand, LOL) we had it planned.  We built a kennel/run in the garden to seperate them and then over time gradually got them all used to it (we have 1 bitch & 2 dogs, 1 entire, 1 neutered) 
It wasn't as bad as we thought but we did have it run like a military operation as they do have to go out the same way. I must admit when my entire boy was seperated and couldn't see our girl he was worse and howled the place down.

I think also what helped us was that he was ill for some of her season (he's ok now) so wasn't interested in anything except being pampered by us humans :)
- By Trevor [gb] Date 25.05.07 04:48 UTC
we have both entire dogs and bitches here - the boys have to stay in our kennels the whole time that any of the bitches are in season they cannot see the girls from there and although they do have the odd howling session it's usally not too bad - we have to excercise them separately from the girls and they do lose a bit of condition but the worst part is reintroducing them back into the pack.  All they want to  do is pester the girls who by then have totally finished and  get really stroppy with them - it's chaos untill the penny drops and things get back to normal

Yvonne
- By paulaj [in] Date 25.05.07 12:53 UTC
To be honest it was our pup bitches first season and i don't think she realised at first what was happening so she couldn't understand being seperated from our boy.  When she got to being interested though we were gobsmacked she was like a little floozie :D  She's our first bitch so although we'd read up and been told what to expect until it happened we weren't sure, LOL
- By Brainless [gb] Date 25.05.07 16:43 UTC
Often a first season isn't as bad, they seem to get more desirable as they mature.  Also the bitch is more likely to be really keen to get to the dog as well as the other way around.

My first bitch a Groenendael slipped past the posty at the peak of her season and did a runner not coming back for hours.  We gave her the mismate jab.

Never had one of my Elkhounds try and do a runner in season, but am more careful these days.
- By spiritulist [gb] Date 25.05.07 19:59 UTC
We put our in season girl in kennels, as advised by this lot on here. Worked a treat thanks.:-)
- By Melodysk [gb] Date 27.05.07 08:47 UTC
*Sigh*

With Delta in season and ripe at the moment, Hudson is pacing around and whining a bit .....Delta went outside for a loo break this am and was hurredly bought back in as she decided to SING to the neighbourhood LOL It was only 6.30am so I decided people wouldn't appreciate her voice :D

Hudson is castrated but still WOULD given a chance ;)
- By Crazydoglady [in] Date 01.07.07 20:13 UTC
Sorry it's taken me so long to reply to this thread!
Thanks for all your advice.
Think he's going to go and stay with my friend. He knows her and her dogs and gets on well with them. Unless her bitch happens to come into season at the same time, lol, in which case both boys (she has an entire males aswell) will go to my kennels. My dogs are used to the kennels as they come to work with me now and then so shouldn't lose condition or anything hopefully.
Gypsy is now late with her season, am keeping a very close eye on her (and him).
Anyway thanks again!
Holly xx
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